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Freedom Hills #2504845
06/11/18 08:42 PM
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I started hunting Freedom Hills about 6 years ago or so. Before I first went I gathered as much info as I could about the place being it's over a 2 hour drive one way for me. I remember posting on here and some recommended a bulletproof vest due to the amount of people. Shortly after I started hunting it the Wma was broke into zones. A hunt on one zone then next hunt on other zone ect.. It has ruined the place in my opinion. To many people to be hunting half the mang area each hunt. It's not enjoyable and really just dangerous in my opinion. Who could I contact with the state to express my opinion and try and get the zones done away with?

Re: Freedom Hills [Re: desertdog] #2504851
06/11/18 08:45 PM
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Attend a Conservation Advisory Board(CAB) meeting and sign up to speak.


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Re: Freedom Hills [Re: desertdog] #2505015
06/11/18 11:14 PM
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Huntsville, AL above the tater...
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I hate to say it but i doubt they care one bit. We signed a long signature petition on a wma and they just said not a chance.

Re: Freedom Hills [Re: Jakethesnake] #2505023
06/11/18 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakethesnake
I hate to say it but i doubt they care one bit. We signed a long signature petition on a wma and they just said not a chance.


That 's what I was afraid of..It won't hurt to try I guess. No use in complaining about something if your not willing to make an effort to change it.

Re: Freedom Hills [Re: desertdog] #2505084
06/12/18 06:58 AM
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This is not a new problem. I grew up in the area, hunting the WMA in the 80's and 90's. (Back then it was Thomas WMA.) We mostly bowhunted. I wanted to go on a gun hunt they were having the weekend of the Iron Bowl. I waited to noon, thinking the crowd would leave to go watch the game. Between the pavement and Pope Tower, I counted 27 vehicles. I turned around at tower and went back home. Always been crowded for gun hunts.

Re: Freedom Hills [Re: desertdog] #2505176
06/12/18 08:58 AM
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Contact the biologist over the area and district 1 office. We do listen to suggestions but most decisions are made for a reason...

Re: Freedom Hills [Re: desertdog] #2505232
06/12/18 10:18 AM
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Went down hill when the last Biologist retired and they piled both WMA's on one. Dono if the last one had more input or what but it was a lot better managed then. Wished theyd get Mbrock to help the current biologist with the feral hog problem at Lauderdale before its too late. Mbrock did a world of good at Blackwarrior thinning the hogs out.

Re: Freedom Hills [Re: desertdog] #2505252
06/12/18 10:51 AM
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Daniel Toole is the biologist over it now. I don't know much about his management decisions and how they've affected hunting on Freedom Hills or Lauderdale, but he's always been a very pleasant guy to deal with. He responds quickly to emails or phone calls and is willing to provide as much info as he can.

Mitchell Marks was over it before and had the same experience with him, nice gentleman with helpful info for someone new to the area. He was tougher to get in touch with, but nice nonetheless.


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Re: Freedom Hills [Re: desertdog] #2505299
06/12/18 12:02 PM
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Thanks for the info guys. Someone has gave me Mr Toole's contact info. Turkey I agree it's not a new problem with the crowds. But that's what I keep referring to is imagine how crowded it is now with half the Mang area open on each hunt.

Re: Freedom Hills [Re: desertdog] #2505353
06/12/18 01:35 PM
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I know not everyone's a bow hunter, and I'm not a bow only guy at all, but I bow hunt Freedom Hills a lot more than I gun hunt it just to stay away from the crowds. You'll have just about anywhere you want to go to yourself on the weeks with no gun hunt scheduled.


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Re: Freedom Hills [Re: desertdog] #2537910
07/27/18 12:02 AM
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I was 14 hunting the youth hunt last time I was at freedom hills. We got set up in our stands and 20 minutes after day light the woods came to life. We watched 5 sets of orange hats set up around us. About a hour later. We saw a guy and his walk out into a green field and put a blind dead center of it. It seems like someone was sitting every 25 or so yards. I have never been back.

Re: Freedom Hills [Re: desertdog] #2538018
07/27/18 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by desertdog
I started hunting Freedom Hills about 6 years ago or so. Before I first went I gathered as much info as I could about the place being it's over a 2 hour drive one way for me. I remember posting on here and some recommended a bulletproof vest due to the amount of people. Shortly after I started hunting it the Wma was broke into zones. A hunt on one zone then next hunt on other zone ect.. It has ruined the place in my opinion. To many people to be hunting half the mang area each hunt. It's not enjoyable and really just dangerous in my opinion. Who could I contact with the state to express my opinion and try and get the zones done away with?

Might be safer to get a bow and hunt it when gun hunters can’t.

Last edited by turkey_killer; 07/27/18 07:54 AM.
Re: Freedom Hills [Re: desertdog] #2538051
07/27/18 08:41 AM
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I spoke with Mr Toole a couple weeks ago. Talked to him about 30 min (nice guy). He said two main reasons for zones gives guys that work weekends days to hunt during week and gives the small game hunters a place to hunt (they can hunt the opposite zone on gun days). I still don't agree with it but at least I gave my feedback. I'm not driving half way across the state to hunt with a bow during the rut and during gunseason so honestly probably won't make much effort to go back.

Last edited by desertdog; 07/27/18 09:51 AM.
Re: Freedom Hills [Re: Turkey] #2538759
07/27/18 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Turkey
This is not a new problem. I grew up in the area, hunting the WMA in the 80's and 90's. (Back then it was Thomas WMA.) We mostly bowhunted. I wanted to go on a gun hunt they were having the weekend of the Iron Bowl. I waited to noon, thinking the crowd would leave to go watch the game. Between the pavement and Pope Tower, I counted 27 vehicles. I turned around at tower and went back home. Always been crowded for gun hunts.


Wow...Pope Tower, haven't heard those words in many years. Some of my first gun hunts was watching power lines on the Pope Tower side.

Re: Freedom Hills [Re: desertdog] #2539855
07/29/18 09:47 PM
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The tower would be s good spot to bow hunt. Only hardwoods in 24000 acres.


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Re: Freedom Hills [Re: desertdog] #2540375
07/30/18 04:37 PM
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If you turned across the road from the tower and went to the back of that road, it dropped off into a hollow. The road went down a bluff known as the Devil's Nose. The property there was adjacent to the back of the Redwine property. My FIL grew up there and could tell you pretty much every old still site. Until his death, we had property to hunt on the Pleasant Site Road.


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