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Rayioner lease questions. #2478305
05/06/18 10:51 PM
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Mowens Offline OP
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I know several people lease from Rayioner in here. I just picked a lease up from them. I have a few simple questions.

First are they good about road repairs? I have a few bad areas.
What's the food plot story? I see in one area some are free but in another is 110 for cleared and 160 for uncleared. I have some previous food and logging decks would like to plant.
How much of a stickler are they about the June 1 lease start? If I wanted to start doing now is that a problem? I ask because when I saw the property there was a gate. The previous lessee took it yesterday and I would like to replace it, put up cameras, etc.
Anything else I should be aware of leasing from them?
Last question, there is a power line on the property. Who do I need to reach out to about that at Alabama power? The Rayioner website states I have to get the power company to approve.

Thanks guys.

Re: Rayioner lease questions. [Re: Mowens] #2478367
05/07/18 06:55 AM
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Rebelman should be able to answer all your questions. He is/was in charge of the Rayonier properties in most of south AL. Not sure if he is still with Rayonier (I know he moved recently) or not, but he still should be able to help with questions even if he's not.


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Re: Rayioner lease questions. [Re: Mowens] #2478394
05/07/18 07:49 AM
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Rebelman left Rayonier for a new job. Rayonier hunting lease program was poorly run before Rebelman got there. Brad improved things significantly but the Rayonier corporate structure limited what he could do. Their hunting lease program still pales in comparison with better managed companies such as RMS, Potlatch and Westervelt.


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Re: Rayioner lease questions. [Re: Mowens] #2478503
05/07/18 10:34 AM
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And Rayonier will go up on there lease price every year.

Re: Rayioner lease questions. [Re: Mowens] #2478536
05/07/18 11:24 AM
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Rayonier lost a good one... Of course he had some good influences on him early in his career laugh

Re: Rayioner lease questions. [Re: Mowens] #2478570
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Who's Rebel working with now?

Re: Rayioner lease questions. [Re: Mowens] #2478656
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Where's Rebleman been? Seems like he got lost once he moved.


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Re: Rayioner lease questions. [Re: Mowens] #2478828
05/07/18 07:08 PM
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I’m here. Although, I actually have to work now. smile


Rayonier is a pretty good place to lease from. They have some good land, in good areas. If you can dodge the harvesting activities, then you will enjoy your time on their land.


Mowens, PM sent.

Re: Rayioner lease questions. [Re: WildlifeBiologist] #2478836
05/07/18 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by WildlifeBiologist
Rebelman left Rayonier for a new job. Rayonier hunting lease program was poorly run before Rebelman got there. Brad improved things significantly but the Rayonier corporate structure limited what he could do. Their hunting lease program still pales in comparison with better managed companies such as RMS, Potlatch and Westervelt.



I appreciate the comment but I’ll have to disagree with you one thing. Only Westervelt has a better managed hunting program out of those listed. They are the only ones with wildlife biologists on staff, alter harvesting schedules, and have an excellent geography for prime hunting.

RMS and Potlatch are well run companies and I respect them greatly. But neither have dedicated staff to handle hunting issues. Both use secretary staff to issue leases.

Re: Rayioner lease questions. [Re: Rebelman] #2478851
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Originally Posted by Rebelman
Originally Posted by WildlifeBiologist
Rebelman left Rayonier for a new job. Rayonier hunting lease program was poorly run before Rebelman got there. Brad improved things significantly but the Rayonier corporate structure limited what he could do. Their hunting lease program still pales in comparison with better managed companies such as RMS, Potlatch and Westervelt.



I appreciate the comment but I’ll have to disagree with you one thing. Only Westervelt has a better managed hunting program out of those listed. They are the only ones with wildlife biologists on staff, alter harvesting schedules, and have an excellent geography for prime hunting.

RMS and Potlatch are well run companies and I respect them greatly. But neither have dedicated staff to handle hunting issues. Both use secretary staff to issue leases.


Let's agree to disagree on that point. Before Rayonier hired you, I dealt with Rayonier answering machines and secretaries. Mostly answering machines. All my leases with RMS and Potlatch are handled by a forester who is primary contact. Maybe I just got lucky in regions where I lease. Regardless, any timber company would be fortunate to have you managing their hunting leases. Like I said to the OP, a good forester and/or biologist can make it a pleasant experience.

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Re: Rayioner lease questions. [Re: Mowens] #2478894
05/07/18 08:26 PM
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Rayonier is going absolute scorched earth on Carney and Southside right now.


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Re: Rayioner lease questions. [Re: Mowens] #2478916
05/07/18 08:41 PM
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Thanks for all the answers and information guys.

Re: Rayioner lease questions. [Re: hunterbuck] #2479000
05/07/18 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Rayonier is going absolute scorched earth on Carney and Southside right now.



I have several friends in Carney and they tell me they had a great turkey season this year. How was Southside's?


I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
Re: Rayioner lease questions. [Re: BamaGrad85] #2479102
05/08/18 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaGrad85
Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Rayonier is going absolute scorched earth on Carney and Southside right now.



I have several friends in Carney and they tell me they had a great turkey season this year. How was Southside's?


I talked to Allen about halfway through turkey season, he said it was going really good.


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