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Game Check again
#2468294
04/24/18 05:53 PM
04/24/18 05:53 PM
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Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 11,347 Prattville AL
ElkHunter
OP
Booner
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OP
Booner
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 11,347
Prattville AL
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With all the big talk and name calling on here. I doubt you brave bold men would have a problem with telling the truth about hunting success this past season in Alabama.
How many deer did you kill this past season and did you report them?
I reported all 4 of mine.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
#2468298
04/24/18 05:56 PM
04/24/18 05:56 PM
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Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 9,956 Hampton Cove
foldemup
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 9,956
Hampton Cove
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2 bucks and a doe and 2 turkeys and I had no issues reporting them
If you want to always win, never play anyone better than you!
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
#2468305
04/24/18 06:00 PM
04/24/18 06:00 PM
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910 Clanton, AL
Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910
Clanton, AL
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One buck. I did report it. I do not report turkeys and never will.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
#2468319
04/24/18 06:18 PM
04/24/18 06:18 PM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 36,092 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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alabama
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zero for me.
grandson killed a big eight point. I spent a day and a half trying to report it, said screw it. They don't like it they can come get the 11 year old grandson.
That what yer looking for Barry????
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: perchjerker]
#2468358
04/24/18 06:53 PM
04/24/18 06:53 PM
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910 Clanton, AL
Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
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Clanton, AL
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OB, no more turkeys than you kill, it's no big deal! You think I told you the truth? I'm going in the morning for #5, or is it #7, hell I lost count.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
#2468366
04/24/18 07:00 PM
04/24/18 07:00 PM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 28,954 Fosters, Alabama, USA
Shaw
Administrator
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Posts: 28,954
Fosters, Alabama, USA
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One buck and 3 does. Reported all of them. My nephew killed a buck during youth season and I reported it also. Took about 60 seconds to report each of them. It’s not difficult at all to do. Honestly, I wish we would go to physical tags if we’re going to continue to report them.
"I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it." Captain Woodrow F. Call
ShawBuilt Custom Bowstrings
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
#2468375
04/24/18 07:09 PM
04/24/18 07:09 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,626 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,626
Fayetteville TN Via Selma
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I reported all 1 of mine. It was in the extended season and the app kept telling me the season was over so I had to end up phoning it in.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: Shaw]
#2468376
04/24/18 07:11 PM
04/24/18 07:11 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,626 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,626
Fayetteville TN Via Selma
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One buck and 3 does. Reported all of them. My nephew killed a buck during youth season and I reported it also. Took about 60 seconds to report each of them. It’s not difficult at all to do. Honestly, I wish we would go to physical tags if we’re going to continue to report them. I can see Sykes wanting to do this and make you buy tags even if you are a lifetime license holder or in the exempt group of "entitlement" hunters.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
#2468389
04/24/18 07:24 PM
04/24/18 07:24 PM
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Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 6,778 Alabama
3FFarms
ALDEER SPONSOR
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ALDEER SPONSOR
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 6,778
Alabama
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0 deer killed by me. I reported my son's.
What I'd rather be known is that we made 20 sits between 12/29 and 2/10 and saw exactly 3 deer in 20 sits.
That is a whole heck of a lot better info on status of the herd than the buck I reported.
Ya'll are just overthinking it now
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: jawbone]
#2468393
04/24/18 07:25 PM
04/24/18 07:25 PM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,780 central ala,
centralala
14 point
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14 point
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central ala,
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One buck and 3 does. Reported all of them. My nephew killed a buck during youth season and I reported it also. Took about 60 seconds to report each of them. It’s not difficult at all to do. Honestly, I wish we would go to physical tags if we’re going to continue to report them. I can see Sykes wanting to do this and make you buy tags even if you are a lifetime license holder or in the exempt group of "entitlement" hunters. Exactly.....With a continued price increase each year.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: perchjerker]
#2468429
04/24/18 07:56 PM
04/24/18 07:56 PM
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910 Clanton, AL
Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
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Clanton, AL
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Lost count MaRK? HELL YOU NEVER COULD COUNT! nO THERE ARE NOT 7 FINGERS ON YOUR HAND! i HEARD YOU HAVE BEENB AT WAR WITH rUSSIA AGAIN. i KNOW YOU HAVE ALREADY WIPED OUT A BUNCH OF wHITE rUSSIANS THIS WEEK! Done killed three this evening.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: jawbone]
#2468471
04/24/18 08:21 PM
04/24/18 08:21 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 51,938 Over Yonder
Clem
Mildly Quirky
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Mildly Quirky
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 51,938
Over Yonder
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One buck and 3 does. Reported all of them. My nephew killed a buck during youth season and I reported it also. Took about 60 seconds to report each of them. It’s not difficult at all to do. Honestly, I wish we would go to physical tags if we’re going to continue to report them. I can see Sykes wanting to do this and make you buy tags even if you are a lifetime license holder or in the exempt group of "entitlement" hunters. Tags could be free with a "Make your own" deal. Use a wide plastic zip-tie and Sharpie, a strip of duct tape and sharpie, whatever. Wrap it around the antler or poke it through the ear or leg. Ohio DNR has a pretty good setup and hunters make their own tags but still call in for a confirmation number. I've done it and it's easy. Oklahoma is the same way. No cost for tags. You get your ass in a sling if you get caught without a tag and folks know it. Go here and scroll down to Tagging & Checking: http://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/hunting...ing-regulations/deer-hunting-regulations
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
#2468773
04/25/18 06:32 AM
04/25/18 06:32 AM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,780 central ala,
centralala
14 point
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14 point
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central ala,
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On deer, according to the answers here, the compliance is about 90%. Sgtred awhile back said he was not seeing out of compliance GC, if I remember correctly. Maybe he will elaborate again on what he saw. Maybe his 30%-35% is actually 85%-90% and he is frustrated with people doing what he has asked but not telling him what he wanted to hear.
I still don't understand the percentage. If 240,000 deer are killed and 80,000 are reported, that is 33% compliance. But if you already know 240,000 deer where killed, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT NUMBER TO GET THE PERCENTAGE, why are you looking for how many deer are killed. You already know.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: Hogwild]
#2468928
04/25/18 09:28 AM
04/25/18 09:28 AM
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Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 3,229 Semmes, AL
HippieKiller
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 3,229
Semmes, AL
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I have reported all of my kills since the program first began and was Voluntary. I do not think that the requested information has any biological importance at all, though. x2
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: centralala]
#2468931
04/25/18 09:30 AM
04/25/18 09:30 AM
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910 Clanton, AL
Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
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Clanton, AL
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I still don't understand the percentage. If 240,000 deer are killed and 80,000 are reported, that is 33% compliance. But if you already know 240,000 deer where killed, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT NUMBER TO GET THE PERCENTAGE, why are you looking for how many deer are killed. You already know.
That's the whole point. They don't know how many deer was killed. And therefore they don't know the percentage of compliance. A few folks in the Dept are trying desperately to get the number up close to what they've been dramatically overestimating for years.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: Out back]
#2468962
04/25/18 10:00 AM
04/25/18 10:00 AM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,780 central ala,
centralala
14 point
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14 point
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central ala,
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I still don't understand the percentage. If 240,000 deer are killed and 80,000 are reported, that is 33% compliance. But if you already know 240,000 deer where killed, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT NUMBER TO GET THE PERCENTAGE, why are you looking for how many deer are killed. You already know.
That's the whole point. They don't know how many deer was killed. And therefore they don't know the percentage of compliance. A few folks in the Dept are trying desperately to get the number up close to what they've been dramatically overestimating for years. So, what you are saying is his estimate of approx. 240000 deer killed the season before is way wrong. From that he concluded 30%-35% complied. Using a bogus number of 240000 as you contend can NEVER produce anything but a failure of GC? Now, if he had used 100000, GC would be hitting around 78%-82% in the first 2 years and an instant success. Therfor, the number he used, which I have no clue if it's right or wrong, has created the perception of GC failure. So he created that failing perception himself, no one else. We should have never been given any numbers but what was reported. No percentages, no nothing. Let the hunters think what they want about percentages but don't endorse your own systems failure. Just each year say we are not where we want to be, a lot of work to be done, but we will get there. I would go thank all those who reported. Keep up the good work.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
#2468964
04/25/18 10:04 AM
04/25/18 10:04 AM
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Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,533 Elmore County
treemydog
8 point
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8 point
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,533
Elmore County
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I wonder if or how they come up with the number of incidental takes that involve car bumpers? You have to think that is a significant cause of mortality for the deer herd on a yearly basis. Do they actually research the insurance claims, or do they just guess that number too?
You gonna pull them pistols, or whistle Dixie?
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: centralala]
#2469179
04/25/18 02:24 PM
04/25/18 02:24 PM
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,363 Montgomery
WmHunter
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
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On deer, according to the answers here, the compliance is about 90%. Sgtred awhile back said he was not seeing out of compliance GC, if I remember correctly. Maybe he will elaborate again on what he saw. Maybe his 30%-35% is actually 85%-90% and he is frustrated with people doing what he has asked but not telling him what he wanted to hear.
I still don't understand the percentage. If 240,000 deer are killed and 80,000 are reported, that is 33% compliance. But if you already know 240,000 deer where killed, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT NUMBER TO GET THE PERCENTAGE, why are you looking for how many deer are killed. You already know. Stop using logic, lol.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: jhardy]
#2469707
04/25/18 10:33 PM
04/25/18 10:33 PM
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 7,686 Falkville
MTeague
14 point
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14 point
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Comply with the regulation. Yes. Like it. No.
I am guessing that you will find more people on this site complying than the state average. I'm going to guess that the people who dont report them are more than likely not going to comment and say they didnt.
I had much rather be tried by twelve than carried to my grave by six!!!!
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
#2469730
04/25/18 10:53 PM
04/25/18 10:53 PM
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Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,132 Central Alabama
Cuz-Pat
Booner
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Booner
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Central Alabama
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I was blessed to shoot two bucks and three does. Reported all 5 deer.
No big deal to me to do so.
Takes only a few minutes of time, we are supposed to do it and I try my best to abide by our state laws and regulations.
Cuz-Pat
Patton's European Mounts Professional Quality Skull & Antler Taxidermy Since 1998
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: MTeague]
#2469741
04/25/18 11:52 PM
04/25/18 11:52 PM
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Posts: 15,742 Elmore County
Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Elmore County
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Comply with the regulation. Yes. Like it. No.
I am guessing that you will find more people on this site complying than the state average. I'm going to guess that the people who dont report them are more than likely not going to comment and say they didnt. i did not report the ones i didn't kill lol
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: MTeague]
#2469796
04/26/18 06:15 AM
04/26/18 06:15 AM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 36,092 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 36,092
alabama
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Comply with the regulation. Yes. Like it. No.
I am guessing that you will find more people on this site complying than the state average. I'm going to guess that the people who dont report them are more than likely not going to comment and say they didnt. this^^^^^^^^.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
#2469826
04/26/18 07:01 AM
04/26/18 07:01 AM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,780 central ala,
centralala
14 point
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14 point
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central ala,
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Ok, so for the most part, NOT 100% BUT A HIGH PERCENTAGE, of deer hunters fall into 1 of 2 categories. Those who don't like it but report anyway and the ones who don't like and don't report.. The number that who likes it and reports APPEARS to be insignificant.
Given those majority groups, can compliance for GC ever improve? I'm talking actual number of deer killed and reported ever improve ....to let's say 100,000?. Not talking about a % of any made up number, just the actual number reported
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: jallencrockett]
#2469944
04/26/18 08:55 AM
04/26/18 08:55 AM
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Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 11,635 Longwood, FL
jlbuc10
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 11,635
Longwood, FL
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I definitely checked mine in at alabama outdoor.com. Then screenshot confirmation numbers. I encouraged others to check theirs in also. This is what I do also. Also heard on R&B this week that Garry Vines the Spur Master got a ticket for not checking his turkeys this year.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
#2470114
04/26/18 11:34 AM
04/26/18 11:34 AM
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Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 12,052 Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 12,052
Sylacauga, AL
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I killed 3 and reported them all. I even posted pics here of 2 of them. I reported all my turkeys and also participate in the Avid Hunter project for turkey and report every hunt.
I liked our old system better, but GC is what we have and I can't see them changing it. Government never goes backwards on regulations; it's always going forward.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: Nightwatchman]
#2470124
04/26/18 11:42 AM
04/26/18 11:42 AM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,780 central ala,
centralala
14 point
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14 point
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I lied and reported deer that I didn't actually kill. Factor guys like me that just wanna see the world burn into your figurin' That does happen. People playing the numbers game will make it up and show the numbers to friends. I can assure you I have known some who would do just that.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: centralala]
#2470177
04/26/18 12:46 PM
04/26/18 12:46 PM
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Posts: 1,487 Tuscaloosa, AL
Nightwatchman
8 point
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8 point
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I lied and reported deer that I didn't actually kill. Factor guys like me that just wanna see the world burn into your figurin' That does happen. People playing the numbers game will make it up and show the numbers to friends. I can assure you I have known some who would do just that. Of all the things in this world to lie about, why on God's green Earth would you pick such an insignificant topic like deer hunting. People blow my mind. I hate the world we live in.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: Nightwatchman]
#2470194
04/26/18 01:12 PM
04/26/18 01:12 PM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,780 central ala,
centralala
14 point
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14 point
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I lied and reported deer that I didn't actually kill. Factor guys like me that just wanna see the world burn into your figurin' That does happen. People playing the numbers game will make it up and show the numbers to friends. I can assure you I have known some who would do just that. Of all the things in this world to lie about, why on God's green Earth would you pick such an insignificant topic like deer hunting. People blow my mind. I hate the world we live in. I only have one brother and I have the conclusion he is simply not capable of telling the truth. No matter how significant or not. You can take whatever he says, go with the opposite and you would be good that way but only that way. I haven't seen him in 5-6 years and that was too &%#@-&% recent. NO WAY he will use GC...Or the seasons...Or the limit
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: centralala]
#2470201
04/26/18 01:17 PM
04/26/18 01:17 PM
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Posts: 12,788 Thomasville, AL
Hogwild
Booner
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Booner
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Posts: 12,788
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I lied and reported deer that I didn't actually kill. Factor guys like me that just wanna see the world burn into your figurin' That does happen. People playing the numbers game will make it up and show the numbers to friends. I can assure you I have known some who would do just that. Of all the things in this world to lie about, why on God's green Earth would you pick such an insignificant topic like deer hunting. People blow my mind. I hate the world we live in. I only have one brother and I have the conclusion he is simply not capable of telling the truth. No matter how significant or not. You can take whatever he says, go with the opposite and you would be good that way but only that way. I haven't seen him in 5-6 years and that was too &%#@-&% recent. NO WAY he will use GC...Or the seasons...Or the limit I feel your pain..... Thank God mine does not hunt!
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
#2470202
04/26/18 01:17 PM
04/26/18 01:17 PM
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Posts: 51,938 Over Yonder
Clem
Mildly Quirky
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Mildly Quirky
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Over Yonder
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If I ever kill a deer or turkey in the state again I'll check it. I wanna be progressive and not a lazy leech.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: Clem]
#2470207
04/26/18 01:20 PM
04/26/18 01:20 PM
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Posts: 12,788 Thomasville, AL
Hogwild
Booner
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Posts: 12,788
Thomasville, AL
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If I ever kill a deer or turkey in the state again I'll check it. I wanna be progressive and not a lazy leech. You dang sure better not kill it on your own property UNLESS you buy a license, hire a professional biologist to manage it, have at least one cellular hog trap on the property and shoot it with a Benjamin Airgun!!!
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: BhamFred]
#2470256
04/26/18 02:10 PM
04/26/18 02:10 PM
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Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 11,347 Prattville AL
ElkHunter
OP
Booner
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OP
Booner
Joined: Nov 2004
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Prattville AL
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zero for me.
grandson killed a big eight point. I spent a day and a half trying to report it, said screw it. They don't like it they can come get the 11 year old grandson.
That what yer looking for Barry???? Actually I was wanting to give the law abiding and non hating DCNR hunter a chance to post.
Last edited by ElkHunter; 04/26/18 02:11 PM.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
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04/26/18 02:39 PM
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zero for me.
grandson killed a big eight point. I spent a day and a half trying to report it, said screw it. They don't like it they can come get the 11 year old grandson.
That what yer looking for Barry???? Actually I was wanting to give the law abiding and non hating DCNR hunter a chance to post. Based on the 54 replies to this thread compared to the 201 for the Sykes is Frustrated thread, I think one can reason that the GC participation percentages seem to be fairly accurate even among the aldeer crowd.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
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04/26/18 02:53 PM
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BhamFred
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zero for me.
grandson killed a big eight point. I spent a day and a half trying to report it, said screw it. They don't like it they can come get the 11 year old grandson.
That what yer looking for Barry???? Actually I was wanting to give the law abiding and non hating DCNR hunter a chance to post. I don't know where you get either one of those idiotic statements from Barry. Grabbed out of yer ass?????
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
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04/26/18 03:05 PM
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jhardy
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zero for me.
grandson killed a big eight point. I spent a day and a half trying to report it, said screw it. They don't like it they can come get the 11 year old grandson.
That what yer looking for Barry???? Actually I was wanting to give the law abiding and non hating DCNR hunter a chance to post. Barry, you and I have emailed and I respect your position, but to give the impression that those on the other thread are not law abiding is gross misrepresentation. No on has said that that anyone is not law abiding. I don't think you implying it against of bunch of the posters on the other thread (me being one of them) is a good thing. For some reason some of those that are or were in the Alabama "system" and in cahoots with Sykes seem to think that that the hunting population must agree with every jot and tittle of what Sykes thinks or they are non law abiding and haters. That is simply not the case and I for one take offense to you implying it. Barry, serious question and I am not implying anything. Have you gained or do you stand to gain from Sykes having control? I am not throwing darts, but if the answer is yes to either one of those, you should probably disclaim your opinion when you state it.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
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04/26/18 04:17 PM
04/26/18 04:17 PM
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Hogwild
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I certainly do not hate the DCNR!!
That is a far reach and extremely antagonistic thing to post.
Just because I disagree with SOME of their actions/policies dang sure does not mean I hate the Dept; much less any individuals in it! It simply means we have a difference in opinion. And, I fully accept and Respect the fact that the Dept has the weight of the Law on it’s Side. So, I comply with their Rules and Regulations. But, it does not mean that I have to like it.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
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04/26/18 04:18 PM
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BhamFred
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centrala, FYI, field personnel like GWs and biologists have very little to any say so in what Montgomery does.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: BhamFred]
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04/26/18 04:39 PM
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centralala
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centrala, FYI, field personnel like GWs and biologists have very little to any say so in what Montgomery does. I understand and that's what I was trying to say. For me, I had much rather deal with the field people than the office people. They are just more in touch with reality. Something else, once they come out of the field and into an office, won't be long and they will be out of touch with reality and into that office/politic mode.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
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04/26/18 04:50 PM
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jb20
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I think they could get a close figure if they rode in a chopper with thermal imaging for a couple weeks at night
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: jhardy]
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04/26/18 09:32 PM
04/26/18 09:32 PM
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ElkHunter
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zero for me.
grandson killed a big eight point. I spent a day and a half trying to report it, said screw it. They don't like it they can come get the 11 year old grandson.
That what yer looking for Barry???? Actually I was wanting to give the law abiding and non hating DCNR hunter a chance to post. Barry, you and I have emailed and I respect your position, but to give the impression that those on the other thread are not law abiding is gross misrepresentation. No on has said that that anyone is not law abiding. I don't think you implying it against of bunch of the posters on the other thread (me being one of them) is a good thing. For some reason some of those that are or were in the Alabama "system" and in cahoots with Sykes seem to think that that the hunting population must agree with every jot and tittle of what Sykes thinks or they are non law abiding and haters. That is simply not the case and I for one take offense to you implying it. Barry, serious question and I am not implying anything. Have you gained or do you stand to gain from Sykes having control? I am not throwing darts, but if the answer is yes to either one of those, you should probably disclaim your opinion when you state it. I would say just the opposite is true, If there was ANY hint that I was getting preferential treatment some would scream bloody murder. And I understand that. I have sold hog traps to the state. That has nothing to do with him being in "power". Field agents put in requests for traps that they need. If Montgomery comes up with the money, then I sell to them. I will say this, like all state vendors, it takes me months to get paid. LOL I did not mean to offend you. I talk to a lot of ALDEER members that simply do not post because they don't want to have the wrath of some of the key board cowboys come down on them. That other thread had turned into a DCNR/Sykes bashing thread. I simply wanted to give others a chance to chime in. Honestly, I don't think Game Check will ever work. But, I don't fault the man for trying.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
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04/26/18 10:00 PM
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ElkHunter
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Sykes doesn't use Jager Pro traps. He uses Bull Creek.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
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04/28/18 06:30 AM
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When using Game Check to help determine the population, I wonder how people like me mess it up? I probably watched 100 bucks and 150 doe this past year and shot one buck, which I game checked. Back in the days of the deer management program, we used observation sheets to help with the data, but not anymore. It seems like that could skewer the numbers.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
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04/28/18 06:41 AM
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BhamFred
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Jawbone, then there is the guy that saw three bucks all season and killed all three. And two of the ten does he saw. He killed every deer he saw and had a shot at.
Then there is you...shoots one and lets 200+ walk.
how does this help figure the herd numbers because guy one killed five deer to your one but he sure as hell dosen't have anywhere near the herd size you do.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: jhardy]
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04/28/18 06:58 AM
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Out back
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Heck, I remember outback telling me I didn't know what the hell I was talking about when I answered someone about the tax code 16 or so years ago. Of course that is when he was outspoken. He's calmed down now. Jesus christ. I don't remember what I said last week You remember something I said 16 years ago? Are you my wife?
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: jawbone]
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04/28/18 08:09 AM
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CNC
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When using Game Check to help determine the population, I wonder how people like me mess it up? I probably watched 100 bucks and 150 doe this past year and shot one buck, which I game checked. Back in the days of the deer management program, we used observation sheets to help with the data, but not anymore. It seems like that could skewer the numbers. It’s never going to tell them how many deer are in the woods. All it can show is if we’re killing more, less, or about the same over time. Those trends point out to them that something is changing and they have to figure out why. The thing that sucks the most about it is that so many people tried to point these things out ahead of time…… but folks just blindly supported it anyways as if they were gonna be able to magically pull something out of their arse once the numbers started rolling in.
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The Corn Crash!!!
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
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04/28/18 08:27 AM
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the bad part is, if kill numbers go up. Is that gonna show them theres more deer or just more people reporting?
For without victory, there is no survival
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: perchjerker]
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04/28/18 11:56 AM
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Karl9
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I shot one deer and reported it. I'm all for anything that will help catch the criminals among us that refuse to abide by the buck limit. No amount of regulations and tags will stop the poachers. It is like taking guns away from law abiding citizens to stop criminals from having guns.
Off to Big Sky Country
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: BhamFred]
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04/28/18 05:03 PM
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Robert D.
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Comply with the regulation. Yes. Like it. No.
I am guessing that you will find more people on this site complying than the state average. I'm going to guess that the people who dont report them are more than likely not going to comment and say they didnt. this^^^^^^^^. I haven't reported one yet. Not going to. And just for the record Barry has helped me clean ALL of the ones I've killed since the program began, and he hasn't turned me in YET! #Outlawlife (no stickers yet, but working on a tshirt with a pic of Chuck Sykes with the circle around his head and a line through it)
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
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04/28/18 09:20 PM
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Bamabucks14
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Reported the buck I killed. The does on the depredation permit though...lol
Last edited by Bamabucks14; 04/28/18 09:23 PM.
"Here, take this land mine and protect your property with it." -Ron Swanson
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: Bamabucks14]
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04/29/18 06:06 PM
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The does on the depredation permit though...lol You’re required to report them or your depredation permit may just not get renewed. If I was you I’d report them and sure as heck not brag about not doing it on line. As for GC I’ve reported all of my deer and turkeys and haven’t had one problem while doing it.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: MikeMcConnell]
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04/29/18 10:11 PM
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jawbone
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1 buck, took me 20 seconds to report it. Get the Outdoor Alabama app on your phone, it's pretty handy Unless you kill a buck in the extended season and try to report it and it tells you that the season is out so you have to go to where you have cell service and call it in and since you were relying on the app and didn't carry a paper form with you the buck in the bed of your truck is technically illegal. The system is far from having all the kinks worked out, or at least it was at the end of last year.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: MikeMcConnell]
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04/30/18 05:10 AM
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1 buck, took me 20 seconds to report it. Get the Outdoor Alabama app on your phone, it's pretty handy Not very handy when the damn thing doesn't work!
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: 2Dogs]
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04/30/18 06:56 AM
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Out back
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1 buck, took me 20 seconds to report it. Get the Outdoor Alabama app on your phone, it's pretty handy Not very handy when the damn thing doesn't work! There was a problem with the android version, for a while, but it's been working fine since before this last deer season. I used it to report my deer and a couple for other people. I use the GPS map often, as well.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: Out back]
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04/30/18 08:53 AM
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1 buck, took me 20 seconds to report it. Get the Outdoor Alabama app on your phone, it's pretty handy Not very handy when the damn thing doesn't work! There was a problem with the android version, for a while, but it's been working fine since before this last deer season. I used it to report my deer and a couple for other people. I use the GPS map often, as well. Not for me , took me over 24 hrs to log in a deer this season , same thing on the first turkey after the first turkey no problems. BrentM had trouble logging in a turkey this spring on an Iphone. I'm sure there are plenty of others that have had trouble since before this past deer season. It's screwed up , has been since the beginning.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
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04/30/18 09:11 AM
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I reported the does and bucks I took this year.... It's what I'm supposed to do....
The LORD is Good.... All the Time....
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
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04/30/18 10:47 AM
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I reported the one buck I killed this past season. App did not work, probably due to spotty cell service, but for whatever reason, it would not take the data, so I filled out the paper harvest record before I moved the buck and kept it with me. Killed the buck Friday afternoon and hunted til Tuesday of the following week. I actually logged the buck using my home computer, when I got back home, which was well over 48 hrs after harvest as required by law. It's bad news when you break the law while trying to obey it to the letter.
Also, while I only killed one buck and didnt hunt much this past year, I probably saw 20-25 rack bucks and probably at least 70-75 does and yearlings during the 10 or so days I was able to hunt. If you look at my limited harvest, which was 100% due to my intentionally being very selective, you'd think that I did not have a successful season, and that we might have a population issue in the area I hunt, which is certainly not the case. Point being, what is the GC info, off the one buck I killed, out of the 20+ that I saw, telling Chuck and his boys about the population, sex ratio, overall herd health and fawn recruitment????? All of these are key metrics in managing a whitetail deer herd, none of which is being reported, recorded, or even requested. What does my one dead deer tell Chuck? All it tells him is that there is one less trophy buck running around in North Wilcox.
Last edited by abolt300; 04/30/18 11:40 AM.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: jawbone]
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04/30/18 11:11 AM
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The system is far from having all the kinks worked out, or at least it was at the end of last year.
This is what, five years now with the system (counting voluntary years)? This Pocket Ranger system is used in other states and has been for a while. There should be no kinks in this system by now.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
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04/30/18 11:24 AM
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15 button bucks, spikes, and yearling does.
None Reported.
Sincerely,
My beloved Neighbor
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
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05/01/18 10:54 PM
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But seriously, I don't get the resentment and pushback on reporting your kills. The state is trying to do the best it can. But as the stuborn-ass older guys fade away, an upcoming crop of younger and more conservation-oriented hunters will be coming along and they'll report their kills. I.E. My 18 yr old fisher and hunter son made a comment the other day about a 7 lbs bass someone posted on Facebook. The bass was obviously dead. My son commented: "Man, it's a shame that guy killed that big female bass. He should have let that bass go and kept the smaller ones!" In most circumstances, my son would be right. Now, some of you may rip him a new AH, but he is not alone. All his fishing high school friends never keep big bass as they're right, the smaller bass eat much better and why would you kill a big female? Let her go to reproduce and let someone else have a chance to catch (and release) her. I can't disagree with him, however, I give the dude in the picture the benefit of the doubt that maybe there were circumstances for him killing that big bass. But here's my point... the younger outdoorsmen are better conservationist than my generation was or is. They will take better care of this earth than my generation has. It's just like seatbelts... when mandatory, the old-timers bitched. But if you drive a vehicle and you don't wear a seatbelt, you're an idiot. And good God, you can't argue with proven statistics so please don't argue your point that what if you drive off a bridge and can't get your seatbelt off? You'll be showing your ignorance if you do. GameCheck isn't a bad thing. And I'm a conservative Republican that hates gov interference in my life. Let the fire fly!
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: Thefofive]
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05/01/18 11:57 PM
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Frankie
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But seriously, I don't get the resentment and pushback on reporting your kills. The state is trying to do the best it can. But as the stuborn-ass older guys fade away, an upcoming crop of younger and more conservation-oriented hunters will be coming along and they'll report their kills. I.E. My 18 yr old fisher and hunter son made a comment the other day about a 7 lbs bass someone posted on Facebook. The bass was obviously dead. My son commented: "Man, it's a shame that guy killed that big female bass. He should have let that bass go and kept the smaller ones!" In most circumstances, my son would be right. Now, some of you may rip him a new AH, but he is not alone. All his fishing high school friends never keep big bass as they're right, the smaller bass eat much better and why would you kill a big female? Let her go to reproduce and let someone else have a chance to catch (and release) her. I can't disagree with him, however, I give the dude in the picture the benefit of the doubt that maybe there were circumstances for him killing that big bass. But here's my point... the younger outdoorsmen are better conservationist than my generation was or is. They will take better care of this earth than my generation has. It's just like seatbelts... when mandatory, the old-timers bitched. But if you drive a vehicle and you don't wear a seatbelt, you're an idiot. And good God, you can't argue with proven statistics so please don't argue your point that what if you drive off a bridge and can't get your seatbelt off? You'll be showing your ignorance if you do. GameCheck isn't a bad thing. And I'm a conservative Republican that hates gov interference in my life. Let the fire fly! if he shouldn't keep the big female why should he keep a small one ? if i choose not to wear a set belt how does that kill the other driver ? if GC is not bad then what is good about ? i can get data from scratching my ass but it aint gonna tell me how often yours need scratching
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: Thefofive]
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05/02/18 08:12 AM
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BhamFred
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But as the stuborn-ass older guys fade away, an upcoming crop of younger and more conservation-oriented hunters will be coming along
But here's my point... the younger outdoorsmen are better conservationist than my generation was or is. They will take better care of this earth than my generation has. this^^^ is an unmitigated load of shitt. I'm 67 and it has been my generation and that before me that were "conserving" and building Alabamas deer herds. The state of Alabama and the damn millineals didn't and haven't done a damn thing. It was older landowners and hunters that built the hers up. Younger , newer hunters embraced the states mandate to kill the snot out of does and here we are now. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: BhamFred]
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05/02/18 08:24 AM
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But as the stuborn-ass older guys fade away, an upcoming crop of younger and more conservation-oriented hunters will be coming along
But here's my point... the younger outdoorsmen are better conservationist than my generation was or is. They will take better care of this earth than my generation has. this^^^ is an unmitigated load of shitt. I'm 67 and it has been my generation and that before me that were "conserving" and building Alabamas deer herds. The state of Alabama and the damn millineals didn't and haven't done a damn thing. It was older landowners and hunters that built the hers up. Younger , newer hunters embraced the states mandate to kill the snot out of does and here we are now. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. I whole-heartedly agree!! Some are mistaking an elitist Trophy Hunter/Fisherman attitude as a Conservationist.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: Hogwild]
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05/02/18 08:58 AM
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But as the stuborn-ass older guys fade away, an upcoming crop of younger and more conservation-oriented hunters will be coming along
But here's my point... the younger outdoorsmen are better conservationist than my generation was or is. They will take better care of this earth than my generation has. this^^^ is an unmitigated load of shitt. I'm 67 and it has been my generation and that before me that were "conserving" and building Alabamas deer herds. The state of Alabama and the damn millineals didn't and haven't done a damn thing. It was older landowners and hunters that built the hers up. Younger , newer hunters embraced the states mandate to kill the snot out of does and here we are now. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. I whole-heartedly agree!! Some are mistaking an elitist Trophy Hunter/Fisherman attitude as a Conservationist. BhamFred & Hogwild, I can't believe y'all would say something like that!! BUT, y'all are 100% correct!!
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: Frankie]
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05/02/18 09:01 AM
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i can get data from scratching my ass but it aint gonna tell me how often yours need scratching
That Sir, may be the most insightful post you've ever made.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: Hogwild]
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05/02/18 09:07 AM
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But as the stuborn-ass older guys fade away, an upcoming crop of younger and more conservation-oriented hunters will be coming along
But here's my point... the younger outdoorsmen are better conservationist than my generation was or is. They will take better care of this earth than my generation has. this^^^ is an unmitigated load of shitt. I'm 67 and it has been my generation and that before me that were "conserving" and building Alabamas deer herds. The state of Alabama and the damn millineals didn't and haven't done a damn thing. It was older landowners and hunters that built the hers up. Younger , newer hunters embraced the states mandate to kill the snot out of does and here we are now. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. I whole-heartedly agree!! Some are mistaking an elitist Trophy Hunter/Fisherman attitude as a Conservationist. Y'all got that right! Those of us that were around when there were few to no deer and the leadership in Montgomery at that time made the herd what it is today. Whole different world when there were few deer and you actually had to hunt to get one. Being elitist, trophy, selfish minded has little to do with conservation.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: BhamFred]
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05/02/18 09:08 AM
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Clem
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But as the stuborn-ass older guys fade away, an upcoming crop of younger and more conservation-oriented hunters will be coming along
But here's my point... the younger outdoorsmen are better conservationist than my generation was or is. They will take better care of this earth than my generation has. this^^^ is an unmitigated load of shitt. I'm 67 and it has been my generation and that before me that were "conserving" and building Alabamas deer herds. The state of Alabama and the damn millineals didn't and haven't done a damn thing. It was older landowners and hunters that built the hers up. Younger , newer hunters embraced the states mandate to kill the snot out of does and here we are now. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. Agree with PawPaw.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: GCART81]
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05/02/18 10:59 AM
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Now that I'm trying to get back into hunting (after a 30+ year vacation), I have learned tons for the older hunters on this board on being more selective and why doing so makes sense in the long run - much appreciated!
Older hunters? You mean you haven't learned more from today's younger conservationists who have done and will do more than previous generations? Shocked. Shocked, I say.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Game Check again
[Re: ElkHunter]
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05/02/18 11:16 AM
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Folks that have never had much conserve. The elitist , modern hunters don't conserve as much as manipulate and experiment or to put it bluntly screw with.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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