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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/14/18 09:08 PM
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Doesn’t bother me one way or the other, but tons and tons of private land in the south is hunted and pressured more than most public land during deer and turkey season.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/14/18 09:13 PM
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It isn't the hunters on public land that cause the problems. It's the night riders, road warriors, and partiers. The local beer bangers and dope smokers love to ride them dirt roads and trails at night.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/14/18 09:20 PM
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I don't think you have to worry about that here in Alabama, they talked about how rough it is to get on and kill turkeys here. It was by no means an easy task for them to kill one gobbler in a week, between several of them. Seems like it was a rude awakening for them
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/14/18 10:06 PM
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I don't have much respect for a fully abled grown man who sits in a pop up tent in a plot or wherever and waits on a turkey to walk up and shoot it. Period
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: Johnal3]
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04/14/18 10:10 PM
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I’m not sure how old you are, but turkey hunting has already done what duck hunting did. The early to mid 90’s, hardly anyone turkey hunted. Now everybody and their brother tote damn blind, decoys, and a box call somewhere every weekend or more. Well that was before my time. And I hope it doesn't happen again. When they're gone they're gone. All I'm sayin.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: 257wbymag]
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04/14/18 10:12 PM
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I don't have much respect for a fully abled grown man who sits in a pop up tent in a plot or wherever and waits on a turkey to walk up and shoot it. Period I agree pal,but it looks like this is the road turkey hunting is taking. I remember back years ago you would get shamed for building a natural blind to hunt out of for future hunts. I just can't make myself deer hunt for turkeys,but to each their own!
I would rather be turkey hunting
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/15/18 01:00 AM
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At least in my area, timber cutting has almost dictated that if you hunt the pines, you need blinds, and usually that’s over a greenfield. The guys I know are calling and birds generally respond. The question becomes are they coming to the call or simply headed to the field. Also, that’s all some guys have to hunt. I’m glad for them when they kill a bird and most of these guys used to have something different to hunt and are good turkey hunters. I am especially glad that they actually HAVE birds to hunt! I was afraid that cutting of mixed pine and hardwood and replanting plantation pines was going to be the end of turkey hunting but it had not been.What HAS happened is areas remaining with mixed timber have seen increases in the number of birds, subject to the size of the area and what Mother Nature allows as its carrying capacity.l have killed a few from blinds, even in the hardwoods and as I get older it’s pretty nice to have a blind under certain conditions, especially afternoon hunts or bad weather.mine are generally in areas were I would be seated at a tree anyway. I don’t have ANY disrespect for a hunter that uses a blind, permanent or portable ot screen, etc. Anymore than a hunter that uses a thick ,comfortable cushion rather than the one inch I have tied around my waist. I agree about the numbers of hunters. When BASS came along I saw a tremendous increase in the numbers of boats and thought “this ain’t good”. I was wrong, plenty of fish for everybody. The NWTF has increased the numbers of hunters for sure, but there seems to be plenty of turkeys killed. Of the things listed on the annual survey affecting turkey hunting I always list habitat destruction and predators next. Not numbers of hunters, and sure not “blinds”. I also know a few hunters that look down on the use of cams. Returning to the subject of the original thread, I actually like to KNOW where the turkeys come from. Public or private and what counties.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/15/18 09:48 AM
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I love this states public land..ive never had any nice private land to hunt. You grow up in marshall co and the only decent places to hunt turkeys is SKYLINE....... that was turkey hunting to me..get up at 3:00am drive up there or go the day before an sleep in the truck. I tell people all the time i dont like jackson county....when in reality i know JDM/skyline inside out...as well as the waterfowl refuge. Ive since hunted the majority of wmas in the state except for extreme southern(autauga,lowndes,conecuh nat F, and mobile) when its all you got.....its all you got. Turkeys aint like a duck....neither.. Folks can say what they want but i grew up about a 150ft from the tennessee river....im not a duck hunter..but ive been duck hunting....matter o fact i grew up listnin to ww3 outside the house 3 or 4 days a week. I started goin a little bit...didnt take no calls or decoys...just went and bought my duck stamp and some of the cheapest steel shot you could buy...i killed but loads an didnt have feeakin clue what the heck i was doin..i just sit there real still an wait till they wer close enough to kill. I decided after i fell in a beaver trace an filled my waders up you could have this stupidity. If youike it more power to you...thats great... But it aint like turkey hunting on public land...not even in the same demension. They might doit for a minute or 2 but most of the folks wanting to be a cool hardcore public land hunter gonna get they butt kicked a time or 2 and say uh..uh i want my hunting club back....i know i would if i had a good place to go. If you can consistently kill turkeys and deer on public land...you a bad mammah jammah.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/15/18 10:22 AM
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Just like classic bottomland, this has gotten out of hand.
I am tired of people prefacing their turkey hunting success by whether they were on PUBLIC land. Leave something to the imagination. I get it that you're competitive but this isn't basketball or football.
I just saw a youtube channel called the "HUNTING PUBLIC" and I was amazed. That coupled with some of the other stuff i've seen this year has been overwhelming for me.
I have had more success on private land in terms of killing turkeys compared to public land but I grew up hunting private land. Honestly, I have pulled out more hair hunting them on private land than public land.
The reason I am concerned about this is:
Deep down, I'm afraid we're going to have hunters fleeing to the wma's to turkey hunt. Just like freakin duck dynasty. Can yall imagine what would happen if we had a turkey hunting equivalent to duck dynasty????? Only yall that have duck hunted prior to that will know.
Whether this is an irrational fear I haven't any clue. I hope it's just me being a butthead. And by the way, I am usually very easy going. Not all the time but much more than not! How many turkeys have you actually killed on public land?
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: Atoler]
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04/15/18 11:06 AM
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How many turkeys have you actually killed on public land?
That's besides the point, Austin. Doesn't change anything I just said...
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/15/18 11:31 AM
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But since we're taking that route...How many turkeys have you actually killed that you didn't post to social media? Didn't realize posting to social media was a requirement, guess I'll go back and check the regs. Just seems like you need to spend more time enjoying the outdoors, you've been posting something new to complain about constantly this season. Public land is no different than its always been, and until you actually earn some success on it, I don't see you having a leg to stand on pointing fingers at people who have and choose to say something about it. who cares? Mention a specific wma over and over, well that's a bit different, but killing a "public land" bird is something to be damn proud of.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/15/18 12:03 PM
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I only hunt private land. I live driving distance to Barbour and Tuskegee and have never set foot on either one of them. When I lived in Pennsylvania I hunted public land and when I moved back home I promised myself I would do what ever I had to do to never hunt public again. I know it's not as bad down here as it was up there but my Yankee experience left me really turned off to it. All that being said, I know a lot of people only hunt public and some have had success and some are consistently successful at it and my hat is off to them. It takes a lot of time and effort to pull that off. I know if I could pull it off I would definitely brag about it, but I sure as hell wouldn't let on where it happened. I may go try some public again one day but for now I'll let some other guys fight over it.
What you do today, you have to sleep with tonight.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: Atoler]
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04/15/18 01:08 PM
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[quote=ozarktroutbum] Public land is no different than its always been, and until you actually earn some success on it, I don't see you having a leg to stand on pointing fingers at people who have and choose to say something about it. I'm not sure how you inferred that I haven't actually had success on it... But truth be told, I am probably an average turkey hunter from most on here's standards. However, I hunt public land and bought a state hunting license so regardless of whether I've killed 0 or 100, I have a vested interest in it and have the right to gripe if I want to.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: Atoler]
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04/15/18 01:22 PM
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Just seems like you need to spend more time enjoying the outdoors, you've been posting something new to complain about constantly this season. Well I think people that constantly post kill pics and what # bird they're on and whether it was on public land should spend more times enjoying the outdoors...seems like they're not getting everything they want when the hunt's over. Oh I know they're proud... But seriously, I enjoy looking at people's pictures and reading stories of people's hunts but I'm bothered at how it's become such a numbers game. I also get irritated when people say they didn't have a good season because they didn't "tag out." Or even duck hunters saying the same thing about a particular hunt because they didn't kill their 6 ducks or their 15 doves or what not.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: Atoler]
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04/15/18 01:38 PM
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Didn't realize posting to social media was a requirement, guess I'll go back and check the regs. I don't think you understood what I was getting at...
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/15/18 01:42 PM
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Just seems like you need to spend more time enjoying the outdoors, you've been posting something new to complain about constantly this season. Well I think people that constantly post kill pics and what # bird they're on and whether it was on public land should spend more times enjoying the outdoors...seems like they're not getting everything they want when the hunt's over. Oh I know they're proud... But seriously, I enjoy looking at people's pictures and reading stories of people's hunts but I'm bothered at how it's become such a numbers game. I also get irritated when people say they didn't have a good season because they didn't "tag out." Or even duck hunters saying the same thing about a particular hunt because they didn't kill their 6 ducks or their 15 doves or what not. Well the people that post the numbers are prob going by the book its the ones that dont u shoild be worried about...and why do u care if soneone says they had a bad season?? Maybe thell just quit and give u a better chance...sounds like u dont want everybody and there brother huntin anyway..
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: 257wbymag]
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04/15/18 03:14 PM
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I don't have much respect for a fully abled grown man who sits in a pop up tent in a plot or wherever and waits on a turkey to walk up and shoot it. Period Or kill em at 60-70 yds. That ain't turkey hunting in my book.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
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criticising the best hunting show out there..those boys are legit and actually what we need MORE of X2. I check their YouTube channel every day hoping they've got a new video up. They're the best videos out there right now
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
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04/15/18 04:04 PM
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criticising the best hunting show out there..those boys are legit and actually what we need MORE of X2. I check their YouTube channel every day hoping they've got a new video up. They're the best videos out there right now Agreed! no sponsorship to push and not selling anything, but hunting success or fail and good times doing it.
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/15/18 04:32 PM
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I've killed a bunch of birds in arguably one of the hardest places to hunt them birds Bankhead national Forest yes there's a bunch of people but that's no excuse to not getting a bird or enjoying the outdoors. I welcome the new hunters as should everyone else. We were all new to the game at one point and hunters numbers are going down every year and if we don't start bringing new people to the sport in a few years we are really going to be in trouble.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: Bustinbeards]
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I think your perspective on increasing public land pressure depends a lot on your area of the state. I hunted public land in Wilcox Co when I was in HS, and there was a whole lot of pressure and a whole lot of bad manners. That ain't something that's new. The Coosa WMA was an absolute zoo back in the 70s through the 90s. Hunting it was when I decided that it was impossible for legal hunting to wipe out all the gobblers from an area. Some of those turkeys on the main roads would have 4-5 people calling to them every morning, and yet they survived. And those turkeys always gobbled great on it; better than any other place I've hunted for Easterns.
But after about 2000, the hunting pressure was noticeably less. I don't know why; I always suspected that serious hunters usually joined a club, and casual hunters gave up after the first week. It doesn't hurt for me to talk about it now; most of it has been leased out and the small amount that remains is cutover.
Turkey hunters have always been crazy, so that's nothing new. I think most of the blind/decoy type hunters will eventually give up turkey hunting. Hunting that way just can't be as addicting as talking to them. I could be wrong, and other areas of the state may be much different than what I have experienced.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
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I don't have much respect for a fully abled grown man who sits in a pop up tent in a plot or wherever and waits on a turkey to walk up and shoot it. Period This.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
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I think your perspective on increasing public land pressure depends a lot on your area of the state. I hunted public land in Wilcox Co when I was in HS, and there was a whole lot of pressure and a whole lot of bad manners. That ain't something that's new. The Coosa WMA was an absolute zoo back in the 70s through the 90s. Hunting it was when I decided that it was impossible for legal hunting to wipe out all the gobblers from an area. Some of those turkeys on the main roads would have 4-5 people calling to them every morning, and yet they survived. And those turkeys always gobbled great on it; better than any other place I've hunted for Easterns.
But after about 2000, the hunting pressure was noticeably less. I don't know why; I always suspected that serious hunters usually joined a club, and casual hunters gave up after the first week. It doesn't hurt for me to talk about it now; most of it has been leased out and the small amount that remains is cutover.
Turkey hunters have always been crazy, so that's nothing new. I think most of the blind/decoy type hunters will eventually give up turkey hunting. Hunting that way just can't be as addicting as talking to them. I could be wrong, and other areas of the state may be much different than what I have experienced.
I like your perspective
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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But since we're taking that route...How many turkeys have you actually killed that you didn't post to social media? Not sure exactly where you're going with that question, but I don't put my turkey pics on the web either. Not even on aldeer.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
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. I welcome the new hunters as should everyone else. We were all new to the game at one point and hunters numbers are going down every year and if we don't start bringing new people to the sport in a few years we are really going to be in trouble. I don't see that at all. License sales are no indication of hunter numbers. From what I've seen in the past 20 years, hunters keep increasing exponentially.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
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But since we're taking that route...How many turkeys have you actually killed that you didn't post to social media? Not sure exactly where you're going with that question, but I don't put my turkey pics on the web either. Not even on aldeer. I normally do not either. The way he asked how many I had actual killed came across as disparaging IMO so in turn I decided to ask him that...I might have taken it personal but I considered it to be personal. Obviously Austin posts a lot of his kill pics so that's what I was getting at. Whether he meant it ugly I don't know but that's how I perceived it at the time.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
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I agree there isn't alot off difference in public and private they are all just turkeys. Places like Coosa and Little river are as good as most private ground. When you can pull up at Mlberry Fork and hear 6 different birds at daylight thats hard to beat. Those birds fly down and walk to the nearest plot and get shot I mean they don't know who owns the land.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
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I didn’t realize “deer hunting” turkeys was so frowned upon! I have hunted public land since I started hunting over 20 yrs ago. I have seen just about anything you can imagine and gone through all stages of the public land hunter, from stingy and possessive to now just grateful to be outside doing what I love. I have been involved in heated arguments before sunrise, where looking back now I probably should’ve feared for my life, to now welcoming the opportunity to meet someone who shares the same passion as I do. However, that doesn’t nessecarily mean I’m going to share information with them or welcome them to knowingly cut me off! Every deer and turkey I have killed, with the exception of a few, has come from public ground and I agree that a turkey is a turkey. If you aren’t where he wants to be, 9 times out of 10 you don’t stand a chance. I don’t see the difference in setting up and waiting one out and circling around to get in front of one that is going away from you... not as exciting if he’s silent but the same result. Kinda like shooting a jake because he was gobbling and strutting...he is still a jake. And I have shot jakes and passed on jakes. I just enjoy hunting, and now with young children and limited time, more than ever. Competitive nature has made its way into hunting and it is running rampant. # this and age or score that...or “oh yeah, well how many have you killed?” Or “what’s the biggest on your wall?” blah blah blah.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
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04/16/18 02:08 AM
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. I welcome the new hunters as should everyone else. We were all new to the game at one point and hunters numbers are going down every year and if we don't start bringing new people to the sport in a few years we are really going to be in trouble. I don't see that at all. License sales are no indication of hunter numbers. From what I've seen in the past 20 years, hunters keep increasing exponentially. Well U.S. Fish and Wildlife services would disagree hunters numbers are down 2.2 million from 2011.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/16/18 03:42 AM
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Well then I disagree with US fish and wildlife. Overall (across the USA) numbers might be down. But in Alabama, I can only wish that was true.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: MarkCollin]
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04/16/18 06:59 AM
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I didn’t realize “deer hunting” turkeys was so frowned upon! ......... Me either……..especially coming from some of the same people who just argued in the deer baiting thread that folks should quit telling each other how they should hunt.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: buckbrush]
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04/16/18 08:07 AM
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. I welcome the new hunters as should everyone else. We were all new to the game at one point and hunters numbers are going down every year and if we don't start bringing new people to the sport in a few years we are really going to be in trouble. I don't see that at all. License sales are no indication of hunter numbers. From what I've seen in the past 20 years, hunters keep increasing exponentially. Well U.S. Fish and Wildlife services would disagree hunters numbers are down 2.2 million from 2011. Good maybe a bunch more will quit too.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/16/18 08:30 AM
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i agree that deer hunting turkeys aint as exciting. But i could say the same thing about deer hunters that dont run dogs. Its boring sitting there whether your waiting on a deer or turkey.
For without victory, there is no survival
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/16/18 09:26 AM
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What they are saying is that waiting in a pop up blind over decoys in a greenfield isn't what turkey hunting is about. It takes the skill out of it and if turns it into a waiting game.
You ain't got to sit still. You ain't got to choose the right tree to set up on. You ain't got to be able to call good. You just put the decoys out in the open where they are visible and play on your phone until it's time to shoot a turkey
Carrying a gun isn't comfortable; but at times it is comforting
"Cause the cause for the pause you think you see is really concentration on the steel” NonPoint
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
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04/16/18 10:06 AM
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Well then I disagree with US fish and wildlife. Overall (across the USA) numbers might be down. But in Alabama, I can only wish that was true. I see an increase...not sure where they're getting their numbers
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: Avengedsevenfold]
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04/16/18 10:33 AM
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What they are saying is that waiting in a pop up blind over decoys in a greenfield isn't what turkey hunting is about. It takes the skill out of it and if turns it into a waiting game.
You ain't got to sit still. You ain't got to choose the right tree to set up on. You ain't got to be able to call good. You just put the decoys out in the open where they are visible and play on your phone until it's time to shoot a turkey It just seems like that’s taking it a little too far to be judging other hunters for such as that.....especially when we hunt many other animals in the same way.... ducks, deer, dove, etc....I mean, how much skill does it really take to walk in on one in the dark and shoot him as soon as he hits the ground??? At least sitting in a blind takes patience. What if you want to go hunt in the afternoon and nothing is gobbling?? Can someone not prop up on the side of field and just hang out to see what happens?
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We dont rent pigs
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/16/18 10:36 AM
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Don't you have some seeds to go scatter somewhere?
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: CNC]
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04/16/18 03:37 PM
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I mean, how much skill does it really take to walk in on one in the dark and shoot him as soon as he hits the ground.
LOL Well, why don't you just Let us know? You have 2 more weeks, surely that's enough time for you to show us your skills..... Good luck!
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: Bustinbeards]
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04/16/18 04:28 PM
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I mean, how much skill does it really take to walk in on one in the dark and shoot him as soon as he hits the ground.
LOL Well, why don't you just Let us know? You have 2 more weeks, surely that's enough time for you to show us your skills..... Good luck! I wish it was that easy
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: Limbhanger1959]
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04/16/18 04:49 PM
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I would rather dig a ditch with a toothpick. Than set in a blind to turkey hunt. That's not what's it's about. Lim hanger 1959 I gotta remember that line.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: CNC]
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04/16/18 06:38 PM
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What they are saying is that waiting in a pop up blind over decoys in a greenfield isn't what turkey hunting is about. It takes the skill out of it and if turns it into a waiting game.
You ain't got to sit still. You ain't got to choose the right tree to set up on. You ain't got to be able to call good. You just put the decoys out in the open where they are visible and play on your phone until it's time to shoot a turkey It just seems like that’s taking it a little too far to be judging other hunters for such as that.....especially when we hunt many other animals in the same way.... ducks, deer, dove, etc....I mean, how much skill does it really take to walk in on one in the dark and shoot him as soon as he hits the ground??? At least sitting in a blind takes patience. What if you want to go hunt in the afternoon and nothing is gobbling?? Can someone not prop up on the side of field and just hang out to see what happens? I don't think anyone was judging. Like myself, just saying it's not for them. If you've gotten the turkey disease, you don't even ponder the idea of sitting in a blind and waiting for one.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/16/18 08:00 PM
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But since we're taking that route...How many turkeys have you actually killed that you didn't post to social media? Not sure exactly where you're going with that question, but I don't put my turkey pics on the web either. Not even on aldeer. I normally do not either. The way he asked how many I had actual killed came across as disparaging IMO so in turn I decided to ask him that...I might have taken it personal but I considered it to be personal. Obviously Austin posts a lot of his kill pics so that's what I was getting at. Whether he meant it ugly I don't know but that's how I perceived it at the time. Well, you have to consider that every time you attack people for wearing bottomland, being proud of public land birds, or whatever it may be, it can be taken personal as well. As to posting pictures, I enjoy sharing my kills with others. I post the ones that I don't have a reason not to post. Good luck the rest of the season.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/17/18 01:20 PM
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I don't care how or where you hunt them , but patience has and will always be the most important quality for a turkey hunter to have. If it takes a blind, then so be it. It bothers me deer hunting out of a blind because I can't hear, no way I could personally turkey hunt in one.
Everything woke turns to shucks
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/17/18 11:43 PM
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A real turkey hunter never lets anyone know where they killed the bird. IMO
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/18/18 07:04 AM
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But since we're taking that route...How many turkeys have you actually killed that you didn't post to social media? 60 or so
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: BC_Reb]
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04/18/18 11:13 AM
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A real turkey hunter never lets anyone know where they killed the bird. IMO Or how, or when.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: BC_Reb]
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04/18/18 06:04 PM
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A real turkey hunter never lets anyone know where they killed the bird. IMO The smart ones take a picture in front of management area signs😁 , miles away from their lease!
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
[Re: ozarktroutbum]
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04/18/18 06:25 PM
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The smart ones don't post pictures.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
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04/18/18 07:00 PM
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The smart ones don't post pictures. perzactly!!
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: PUBLIC LAND
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04/18/18 07:15 PM
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The smart ones don't take pictures.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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