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Vortex Viper PST GEN II #2458256
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Does anyone on here have one or know anybody that Does? Looked at one the other day,just wondering the pros/cons of scope.

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I don't have a gen 2 but I've got got 2 gen 1 PST scopes. They are great scopes. The gen 2 moved the lighted reticle switch to the left side of the turret and have a wider magnification range.


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I have one. It's on a bergara B14 HMR. What "pro's and con's" do you want to know about?


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Just was wondering if you like it as a hunting scope,and when you get zero set,and if you dail up say 400 yards,does it hold that good

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My small PST is a 4-16x44. I have it on my .308 hunting rifle. I like it since it's not too big. It dials up and down and always returns to zero.

My bigger PST is a 6-24x50. It's heavy for a hunting scope, I have it mounted on my Ruger Precision Rifle. It dials and returns to zero also.

Again, these are both Gen 1 PST scopes, but I have no reason to believe the Gen 2 models would be any different.

Last edited by gundoc; 04/15/18 07:02 PM.

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Thanks,I thinking about getting a Christensen arms ridgeline before next season,was thinking about going with a vortex viper pat 6-24-50 On it,

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If i was planning on spending that much coin for a rifle, it would be topped with a Nightforce or a Vortex razor if at all possible.


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Yep I would save up for a little better glass for a Christensen. Maybe trade off or sell some stuff that's been sitting for a while. Best of luck and let us know what you get.

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Re: Vortex Viper PST GEN II [Re: RAmerica] #2461825
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Nightforce would be great.

If you will contact GA Precision they are going to have a shipment of Bushnell LRHS 4.5-18 illuminated scopes in soon for half price $750. I think you can pre order with a $500 deposit. This is not a blister pack Bushnell. It's a highly respected long range dialing scope and mostly considered more dependable in dialing than the Vortex Viper. They have good glass too.

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If you are setting up a target rifle, the Viper PST is a really good option. As said above, elevation dial works well and returns to zero accurately. I have owned and/or shot several.

For a hunting rifle, low light, the "Big 4" ( Swarovski, Schmidt-Bender, Zeiss, and Kahles) will all be brighter in the same objective diameter with a 30 mm tube. Don't be afraid to find a used scope from any of these. They all have a great warranty, and their 20 year old stuff is brighter than the new stuff made by others, including Nightforce.

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Wasn't that Viper previously Japanese made but now made in China?

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All the Vipers I have ever seen were either Japan or The Philippines. Cheaper lines are made in China

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But you can dial them up down and sideways and they ALWAYS return to zero and track correctly. Not to mention the glass is as clear as any Zeiss, Swaro, Khales and S&B ... That's what counts right?


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Originally Posted by UncleHuck

All the Vipers I have ever seen were either Japan or The Philippines. Cheaper lines are made in China


Yea,I knew that was originally the case,but I had read recently where production was going to China. Personally,I would much prefer a Japanese made scope over China and likely wouldn't buy the China product. Might be something to check if it is a concern to anyone.

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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Originally Posted by UncleHuck

All the Vipers I have ever seen were either Japan or The Philippines. Cheaper lines are made in China


Yea,I knew that was originally the case,but I had read recently where production was going to China. Personally,I would much prefer a Japanese made scope over China and likely wouldn't buy the China product. Might be something to check if it is a concern to anyone.


Last Viper pst i looked at was made in the Philippines, and so was the Nikon Black i ended up purchasing instead. It's not as fancy looking, but the glass was clearer imo and about $300 bucks less (at the time i purchased)


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Originally Posted by gundoc
But you can dial them up down and sideways and they ALWAYS return to zero and track correctly. Not to mention the glass is as clear as any Zeiss, Swaro, Khales and S&B ... That's what counts right?


I own Vortex scopes, and have owned at least one each of the others you mention. Vortex is very good, but I don't perceive the Vortex to be as clear, nor do I perceive that it has the same low light performance. I'm talking about the last 5 and first 5 minutes of legal shooting light. The difference is not huge, but I do see a difference.

I have also used a Nightforce, and I don't think it was as good either.

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Originally Posted by UncleHuck
Originally Posted by gundoc
But you can dial them up down and sideways and they ALWAYS return to zero and track correctly. Not to mention the glass is as clear as any Zeiss, Swaro, Khales and S&B ... That's what counts right?


I own Vortex scopes, and have owned at least one each of the others you mention. Vortex is very good, but I don't perceive the Vortex to be as clear, nor do I perceive that it has the same low light performance. I'm talking about the last 5 and first 5 minutes of legal shooting light. The difference is not huge, but I do see a difference.

I have also used a Nightforce, and I don't think it was as good either.



Yeah, I don't know why they call a Nightforce a Nightforce. It would be more accurate to call it a Broad Daylight Force...LOL

I wasn't really referring to the first and last 5 minutes, since that's not when I am using them. At least not with the 6-24x50. The 4-16x44 allows me to see as well at that time as my Swaro, Ziess or Leupold did.

I was shooting the Khales and S&B I was mentioned side by side with my PST the same day at the range. There was a marked difference as the two "higher end" scopes looked cloudy compared to the Vortex. The Swaro and Zeiss I owned prior to the Vortex were no more clear than it is. I know what they say about opinions, but that is simply mine from what I have personally witnessed.


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Nightforce has different grades of glass and coatings too. Their NXS glass is different than their ATACR glass.


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