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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2436938
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So we get rid of all the peoples, then what do we do?


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2436954
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Good Lawd, y'all still jawin' bout this $hit!?



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Always vote the slowest path to socialism.







Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2437039
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If this passes, it will create a nightmare for large hunting clubs


So now the standard for legalizing something is going to be, "It can't be anything that could possibly cause two people in a hunting club to argue?" Holy sheep s##t Batman! Please tell me what could pass that standard? What do people in hunting clubs "NOT" fight about?


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: 2Dogs] #2437053
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Good Lawd, y'all still jawin' bout this $hit!?


That's the same thing I was thinking about the "Hillary" thread........ laugh


We dont rent pigs
Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: Clem] #2437133
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Originally Posted by Clem

we had fewer regulations and laws, more overall hunter satisfaction and less of this completely idiotic bullshittery and distrust going on like we've had in the last 10-15 years.

But, yeah, we're doing "progress." Thank God for that.




Was there a particular issue that got the ball rolling? Was it the implementation of the 3 buck limit? Or something else? Personally I did not like the reduction in the buck harvest primarily because all the data we had indicated that it was not needed. Secondarily because the cab had 2 recommendations, one from a study group that they put together to get what I felt like was their desired recommendation of some sort of buck limit and they had a second recommendation from the wildlife section of the aldcnr, you know the folks that have been hired and have the responsibility of managing the wildlife of this state, to not make any changes to the buck limit. We know which they approved.
I don’t trust the cab or many in the aldcnr because of the way they did the bucks limit reduction. They had a desired outcome that they wanted, I felt like they created a study group that would make that a recommendation for that desired outcome, then ignored voices that were contrary to what they wanted.
Let me clarify that I am not slamming those that were on the study group just the cab.


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2437162
03/17/18 12:57 PM
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I think the main thing that brought the baiting bill up was the ambiguous 100 yard supplemental rule. The hunters were not exactly what was legal, the game wardens had their own interpretations and the judges in many cases had their own views. I understand what my game warden said he was enforcing, 100 + yards and out of sight. I think a lot of hunters were contacting their politicians.

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: jhardy] #2437196
03/17/18 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jhardy
"The reigns of Charles Kelly and Corky Pugh were not perfect and both could be dictatorial jackwagons. But we had fewer regulations and laws, more overall hunter satisfaction and less of this completely idiotic bullshittery and distrust going on like we've had in the last 10-15 years."

Hammer meet nail. That is it in a nutshell. End of story.

Originally Posted by jhardy
"The reigns of Charles Kelly and Corky Pugh were not perfect and both could be dictatorial jackwagons. But we had fewer regulations and laws, more overall hunter satisfaction and less of this completely idiotic bullshittery and distrust going on like we've had in the last 10-15 years."

Hammer meet nail. That is it in a nutshell. End of story.

Yep, perfect


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2437211
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I'll also say that this is a VERY Tough subject. Some people want to only kill a big buck. They put money and effort to do that. They may have lots of money, they may not. Some people don't really care the size or age of a deer they kill, they just have fun doing it. Without writing an essay, baiting, I think can make most peoples hunting experience better. Will I bait? No, I'm fortunate enough to hunt family owned crop land. But I don't really have a problem with it. In an interview with a young Ted Nugent he said he was brown bear hunting with Fred Bear one time and they hadn't had any luck. Fred shot one of their pack mules in the head with a colt single action, ate some of it and used the rest for baiting bears. They ended up killing one. Imho, Fred Bear is beyond any of us as far as hunting goes. He utilized his options and did what it took to make his hunts enjoyable.

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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: CNC] #2437233
03/17/18 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Good Lawd, y'all still jawin' bout this $hit!?


That's the same thing I was thinking about the "Hillary" thread........ laugh


That's the same thing i was thinking about the "Throw n Mow" thread grin


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Everyone. All of them...

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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2437234
03/17/18 02:48 PM
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Round ‘bout there
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If only Stephen Hawking could've figured out the definition of "area" for baiting/feeding and how that would work with Throw 'n Mow while improving antler genetics, we'd be good.

/crossthreaddouble/


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: James] #2437267
03/17/18 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Good Lawd, y'all still jawin' bout this $hit!?


That's the same thing I was thinking about the "Hillary" thread........ laugh


That's the same thing i was thinking about the "Throw n Mow" thread grin


Boom! Exactly. Talk about a rambling wreck.


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2437519
03/17/18 08:59 PM
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you still talkin bout this Matt???? grin


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2437570
03/17/18 09:32 PM
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Nah. I left CNC's little charade long time ago. Just was a fun poke there.

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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: Fun4all] #2437914
03/18/18 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Fun4all
Originally Posted by goodman_hunter
Originally Posted by Fun4all
Originally Posted by goodman_hunter
i bet all these anti corn master woodsmen have high doller clubs they hunt in.


You think it will be legal to bait on public land? Or, maybe they will be hunting like the anti corn master woodsmen in those high dollar clubs?

doubt it. my point is, of course the people who have an advantage now. Dont wont folks baiting. Are you a public land hunter?


From the late 1970's til 3 years ago I hunted public land. Does that make me a public land hunter? Or, maybe that gives me a perspective to see both sides of the public land and private land hunting fence. My point is the private land hunters have better hunting opportunities, be it better land, less competition, less pressure, better control of what happens on the property than the public land hunter and yet that is not good enough, easy enough, etc, etc, etc. No need to go any further, it's all about "fun" (fun meaning got to see and kill a deer every time one goes and spends their precious time in the field).

So what your saying is we should use the same standards on private and leased land, as those of public land?if you're a public land hunter it's a non-factor anyways. It ain't gonna make a difference either way.


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: goodman_hunter] #2438036
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[/quote]
doubt it. my point is, of course the people who have an advantage now. Dont wont folks baiting. Are you a public land hunter?[/quote]

From the late 1970's til 3 years ago I hunted public land. Does that make me a public land hunter? Or, maybe that gives me a perspective to see both sides of the public land and private land hunting fence. My point is the private land hunters have better hunting opportunities, be it better land, less competition, less pressure, better control of what happens on the property than the public land hunter and yet that is not good enough, easy enough, etc, etc, etc. No need to go any further, it's all about "fun" (fun meaning got to see and kill a deer every time one goes and spends their precious time in the field).[/quote]
So what your saying is we should use the same standards on private and leased land, as those of public land?if you're a public land hunter it's a non-factor anyways. It ain't gonna make a difference either way. [/quote]

Apparently it's hard to catch the point that private/leased land hunters have it better than the public land hunters. And yet it's not good enough. And I will leave it with that.


"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2438063
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Everyone. All of them...

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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2438132
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Aught to change your name to Ol Stick In Tha Mud


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2439693
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I emailed my Senator asking that this bill be brought to a vote. Never got an answer back.

Anybody else hear what the status is?

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: jamesm1976] #2439723
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Originally Posted by jamesm1976
I emailed my Senator asking that this bill be brought to a vote. Never got an answer back.

Anybody else hear what the status is?


I sent an email also. No reply

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No response from my senator

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