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Re: What the law on suppresors in Alabama ?
[Re: BPI]
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06/10/18 11:28 PM
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Wiley...you are trying to say to all that are reading that I am wrong? Really? So you are saying that the ATF can't ask to see your suppressor at any time? Because if that is what you are saying then you are misinforming a whole lot of people and making yourself look like a dumba$$ in the process. I have several suppressors and all of them could be looked at anytime by ATF.
BTW....many AR owners in Illinois didn't think registering them would be a big deal either. Now they are being fined $1,000.00 per day if they don't surrender them to authorities.
Back in 1939, Jews were being asked to register as well.
Funny how history can repeat itself.
Boom
No discussion!
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Re: What the law on suppresors in Alabama ?
[Re: Big Bore]
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06/11/18 12:04 AM
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Wiley...you are trying to say to all that are reading that I am wrong? Really? So you are saying that the ATF can't ask to see your suppressor at any time? Because if that is what you are saying then you are misinforming a whole lot of people and making yourself look like a dumba$$ in the process. I have several suppressors and all of them could be looked at anytime by ATF.
BTW....many AR owners in Illinois didn't think registering them would be a big deal either. So Now they are being fined $1,000.00 per day if they don't surrender them to authorities.
Back in 1939, Jews were being asked to register as well.
Funny how history can repeat itself.
Boom
No discussion! Meh they can randomly inspect ffl holders at any time, but they can't enter your home or property without a warrant, well maybe yours, but I guarantee they won't mine or Wileys. So now who's spreading the bull & making himself look like a dumbazz? BOOM END OF DISCUSSION. Well there is one more thing, if the ATF does come knocking on your door at 1am, you can bet your azz it won't be because of a few NFA toys!
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
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Re: What the law on suppresors in Alabama ?
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06/11/18 12:15 AM
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This is not worthy of a response or reply. I'm done.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
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Re: What the law on suppresors in Alabama ?
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06/11/18 02:37 AM
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Silencers, really.... What is this? An episode of James Bond in 007? They are called suppressor and they make some noise, just don't ruin your hearing. I missed this gem...Uh actually when Hiram invented the "suppressor" (as we like to call 'em now) he referred to it as the "Maxim Silencer" it's in his patent https://www.nrablog.com/articles/2016/10/history-of-suppressors/You might learn something if you read the link above......
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: What the law on suppresors in Alabama ?
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06/13/18 01:10 PM
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While the ATF absolutely can come to your door and ask to see your device, they can't enter without a warrant or your permission, and they only have authority to examine the licensed item.
There is virtually no history of them doing this without major reason, and they don't have the staff to regularly check.
Apparently it happened in Kalifonistan yesterday. There's a thread about it in the General Forum.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
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Re: What the law on suppresors in Alabama ?
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06/13/18 02:09 PM
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While the ATF absolutely can come to your door and ask to see your device, they can't enter without a warrant or your permission, and they only have authority to examine the licensed item.
There is virtually no history of them doing this without major reason, and they don't have the staff to regularly check.
Apparently it happened in Kalifonistan yesterday. There's a thread about it in the General Forum. Had 0 to do with suppressors from what the gazillion news stories I've read.
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: What the law on suppresors in Alabama ?
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06/14/18 12:44 PM
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Not checked for a suppressor per se, but it did play a role in the story.
"Kirschenmann was arraigned on May 21 and given $150,000 bail. The farmer faces nine felony counts of unlawful possession of an “assault weapon,” two counts of possessing a suppressor, and one charge of possessing a “multiburst trigger activator.” There is nothing in the report to indicate Kirschenmann violated any federal laws or that he has misused his firearms in any manner."
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
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Re: What the law on suppresors in Alabama ?
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07/03/18 03:18 PM
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Anybody know what the rules are If You owned a suppressor before the law took effect? Are You grandfathered in And Do Not have to have a Tax stamp or Do You have to apply for a Tax stamp? If you had a suppressor made before the law went into effect in 1934, then you had a certain length of time it register it for free and get a stamp. In other words, there was a grace period. However, there is not a chance you have a suppressor made before the law went into effect. I think By Your Post You think I have a Suppressor. That is not what I said in My question if my wording was confusing. I would never own a Suppressor and Be subject to the NFA Rules/ Class 3 Of Be Subject To Big brother coming and taking a Look at My gun collection any time they want. Maybe I am wrong on The ATF being able to come an Inspect Your stuff if You are a Class 3 owner but that is My understanding of the Rules? the ATF can not inspect you for owning NFA items anymore than they can inspect anyone else without a warrant. people confuse having NFA tax stamps with FFL licenses if you had an FFL they can inspect once per year randomly during listed business hours (they dont show up at 2am knockin on the door) once you have the tax stamp thats it they cant just show up and demand to look at something without a warrant. its basically no different than making any other legal gun purchase just a more drawn out background check.
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Re: What the law on suppresors in Alabama ?
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07/03/18 08:33 PM
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“More drawn out background check”...yep. They musta seen me post on here. They picked my file up over a month ago...still no word.
The harder I practice, the luckier I get.
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Re: What the law on suppresors in Alabama ?
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07/05/18 09:40 AM
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“More drawn out background check”...yep. They musta seen me post on here. They picked my file up over a month ago...still no word. last stamp i got took 7 months on an SBR Ive heard of people waiting close to a year. I really dont understand what takes so long they really dont do anything more than the regular background check that takes 15 minutes in a gunstore. We do all the foot work before its ever sent in getting fingerprints and a Sheriffs signature. it shouldnt take more than 2 weeks.
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Re: What the law on suppresors in Alabama ?
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07/05/18 12:03 PM
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There you go again. Everyone should know by now that logic and government almost never occupy the same space.
I do agree, though. I never figured out why they can't just sell the stamps in the same store that sells the items and dispense with the extra background check. Hell, suppressors have to be installed on a firearm to do anything, and you don't need the secret squirrel background check for a rifle or handgun.
Regarding the time, it's because they can. 3 years ago, my company was seeking a permit for work in LA. Our guy called the Army Corps of Engineers to check on the permit. He was told it was on "Sue's" desk, and she was on vacation for a month. She would get to it when she came back. The ACOE rep couldn't understand why we would want someone else to take over while "Sue" was out, and did not re-assign the project.
Private sector business experience should be a requirement for any prospective government employee, and their customer service rating should determine whether they remain employed, get promotion opportunities, etc. What we have today is what happens when there is no true accountability and folks can't be fired.
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Re: What the law on suppresors in Alabama ?
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07/05/18 01:27 PM
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James
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“More drawn out background check”...yep. They musta seen me post on here. They picked my file up over a month ago...still no word. last stamp i got took 7 months on an SBR Ive heard of people waiting close to a year. I really dont understand what takes so long they really dont do anything more than the regular background check that takes 15 minutes in a gunstore. We do all the foot work before its ever sent in getting fingerprints and a Sheriffs signature. it shouldnt take more than 2 weeks. Dont need no Sheriffs sig anymore
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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