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Re: 1 acre of corn [Re: Joe4majors] #2409177
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I like a mix of sunn hemp and buckwheat. After 60 days the sunn hemp is around 6' tall and the buckwheat has seeded out. At this point bushhog the field down to about 18" and the sunn hemp will take off again and the buckwheat will resprout from the seed you disbursed when you bushhogged. The buckwheat adds more phosphorous than the sunn hemp, so your getting all three,N,P,and K. Letting the sunn hemp go longer can cause the nitrogen to get bond up in the soil and not release for several months. That's not me talking it's what I've read. BTW, if you use cowpea's instead of buckwheat, you can mow them and they'll still grow. If building your soil, this is a great method, lots of biomass.

Re: 1 acre of corn [Re: blumsden] #2409219
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Originally Posted by blumsden
I like a mix of sunn hemp and buckwheat. After 60 days the sunn hemp is around 6' tall and the buckwheat has seeded out. At this point bushhog the field down to about 18" and the sunn hemp will take off again and the buckwheat will resprout from the seed you disbursed when you bushhogged. The buckwheat adds more phosphorous than the sunn hemp, so your getting all three,N,P,and K. Letting the sunn hemp go longer can cause the nitrogen to get bond up in the soil and not release for several months. That's not me talking it's what I've read. BTW, if you use cowpea's instead of buckwheat, you can mow them and they'll still grow. If building your soil, this is a great method, lots of biomass.

Good post. The number 1 problem I see consulting is guys know or have read what to plant they just can't get from A-Z or want to plant something that will not perform as well in there soil or size plots. I believe those of us that know tricks and secrets to plot success should spill the beans because we will help ourselves out by helping our neighbors and so on to improve our states deer herd. That being said I nor anybody on here have the perfect awnser to a one size fits all planting guide site unseen but if asked I will give my opinion and help if I can. The best biologist and deer managers change and adapt to the best new ideas and technology and to me this is my drug and addiction. I try something different and new every year to meet my goals. This brings me to another point goals of summer plots are you wanting bigger bucks or attraction to hunt over or a combination of both. A lot of disagreement on here is because of different goals. Example I have no club or members on my place and I want to grow monsters so everything planted is to grow them killing them is a after thought. I myself no longer plant corn I want something producing during the summer months instead of fall attraction. My point is I will awnser any question just let me know what your goals are and don't bash either side of the spectrum. I don't expect or think anyone should do the things I do I am just showing you guys my experiences and knowledge about something I love.

Re: 1 acre of corn [Re: Joe4majors] #2409237
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Also knowing the kind of equipment, budget and plantable acres you are working with is another big factor to getting good advice.

Re: 1 acre of corn [Re: Joe4majors] #2409256
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Example it's a helluva a lot easier and cheaper to plant just about anything besides corn for most folks. I would no-till drill corn on 21 inch rows and had great success and it was eazy to spray but most don't have a drill or big planters. You would never see me plant corn behind a old set of 2 row Covington's or something just to much trouble for me anymore but back when that was all I had I loved it. You just want to maximize your plant per dollar and time don't lock on to one thing like corn or nothing. I am bad about soybeans I want them everywhere on my place and have to calm down and remember that it may not be best in every situation.

Re: 1 acre of corn [Re: Joe4majors] #2409373
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I guess I need to find someone who wants to split a bag of sunhemp and try it. I only need enough for 2 acres.


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Re: 1 acre of corn [Re: Joe4majors] #2409591
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What about sun hemp and brown top?

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The sunhemp will shade out the browntop.


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Re: 1 acre of corn [Re: Joe4majors] #2409794
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T neck is right but if you decrease the amount of hemp in your mix you can plant just about anything with it but you maybe defeating the purpose. The problem with mixing broadleaf and grass seed is spraying a pre or and chemicals. I would plant brown top by itself but be careful if you plant it you'll have it even when you don't want it. Also hemp does better with climbing legumes or a tall broadleaf like sunflower. The best thing are vining beans or peas such as quail haven soybeans or top gun soybeans and cow peas is at the top of the list. I tested some top gun beans last year on about an acre in my back yard and did the same with Laredo soybeans mixed with sun hemp. The laredo's did ok but matured to fast and got browsed to death but they did make beans and got about 30" tall. The top gun looked like kudzu they ran across the ground first then climbed the hemp they continued to grow back until first frost. They didn't get very tall they just throw vines and I don't think I made near the tonnage that I was hoping. The IC cow peas over performed my expectations in the mix in areas that nothing can deal with the browse pressure. I did mix beans in with them on some of the larger fields probably 10-15 pounds or so and they did well also. Moisture played a big role in last year's success and I can't expect that to continue but I had some unbelievable results with my hemp mixes.

Re: 1 acre of corn [Re: DAX] #2418406
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1acre of corn will do fine but when it matures the deer, coons, etc. will take it out quicker than you
can even imagine if you have many deer. I planted a 4 acre corn field last year for the first time and it far exceeded my expectations. It did exceptionally well and every stalk had 3-6 ears. I was thinking the corn would last well into the season. It didn't. The deer flocked to it like a swarm of locusts. It was gone in 2-3weeks. Planted in early April and it was gone by 1st of August. In the future, I won't plant less than 10-15 acres

Re: 1 acre of corn [Re: ronfromramer] #2418452
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Originally Posted by ronfromramer
1acre of corn will do fine but when it matures the deer, coons, etc. will take it out quicker than you
can even imagine if you have many deer. I planted a 4 acre corn field last year for the first time and it far exceeded my expectations. It did exceptionally well and every stalk had 3-6 ears. I was thinking the corn would last well into the season. It didn't. The deer flocked to it like a swarm of locusts. It was gone in 2-3weeks. Planted in early April and it was gone by 1st of August. In the future, I won't plant less than 10-15 acres


You obviously have way more deer than average. We planted a 4 acre corn field and had whole ears left last weekend. I'd say our population is average.

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I guess I have too many deer. Ill just have to live with it, could be a lot worse. I can't imagine what it would be like to have an "average number of deer" that would take 7 months to eat 4 acres of corn

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Originally Posted by ronfromramer
I guess I have too many deer. Ill just have to live with it, could be a lot worse. I can't imagine what it would be like to have an "average number of deer" that would take 7 months to eat 4 acres of corn


It’s not too bad, but it’s not in South Montgomery county. Easily some of the best hunting in the state.

Re: 1 acre of corn [Re: Remington270] #2418657
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I guess it's a good thing the coyotes are keeping the population in check but I still hate those
murderous critters. I see more does without fawns than with them but if they all had twins that survived I guess they'd all starve to death sooner or later. A lot of days I see 15 or 20 deer on a 1 1/2 or 2 acre green field. Anything i plant in spring or summer has to be at least 4 acres or it doesn't have a snowballs chance

Re: 1 acre of corn [Re: Joe4majors] #2418668
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I bet your deer density is 60+ deer/sq mile. I bet mine's 10.

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