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Re: Opinions
[Re: ColeT]
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02/21/18 11:22 PM
02/21/18 11:22 PM
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chilton, co.
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There is a difference in deer but to say exactly what strain or where they come from, I don't know. There will be people call you crazy for even mentioning this.
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Re: Opinions
[Re: Forrestgump1]
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02/22/18 12:02 AM
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Wetumpka, AL
ColeT
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Nah man your crazy, any genetic differences have been filtered out by now. They are all the same.... That is what you will hear from this group, Im here to tell you there is a difference. Same reason some areas produce better deer than others. Yeah I realize some will say I'm crazy and making stuff up lol. But there is definitely something different with the deer.
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Re: Opinions
[Re: ColeT]
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02/22/18 09:34 AM
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Awbarn, AL
CNC
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I’d say population and habitat are likely the difference. I think the deer density on some properties around Hurtsboro is probably at a level that it’s effecting body weight some. I found a buck for a guy in that area last year that’s body was so small compared to the rack that it made me wonder if it was an escaped high fence deer at first. It was so noticeable that it just immediately jumped out at you when we found it. They could probably stand to shoot a few more deer around there but this is where management becomes a difference in the matter of opinions…….
Would you deem the deer on the Hurtsboro property to be “unhealthy” because they average less body weight? In order to manage properly, is it imperative that you go in and shoot a bunch of does so that your bucks will gain 20 lbs?......or…….Is it ok that the landowner likes to see a lot of deer? Maybe he doesn’t care that the body weight of his bucks are peaked out.
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02/22/18 10:55 AM
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Autauga County, AL
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King's right. Deer are like people. Some are just bigger than others. There are guys that are 6'2" and weigh 210, others that are 6'2" and weigh 150 and there are guys that are 5'10 and weigh over 300. Then Shaw rolls up at 4'7" and totally skews the curve.  I'm really sorry Shaw but I couldnt resist the opportunity. Once I started typing it just popped in my head. That ain't right😂😂
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Re: Opinions
[Re: DAX]
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02/22/18 03:15 PM
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Wetumpka, AL
ColeT
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Ok I had a place I leased between 223 and 29 for a few years it was about 1800ac and ate up with deer, hogs and turkeys. I can't remember the numbers of deer and hogs killed per year but it was ridiculous like 50+ deer and 100 hogs. I planted and did the best I could do but I finally gave up and let a friend have it. The reason is to many deer to many hogs and to much paper company land. I own land in the extreme north tip of pike county at my house and the Fitzpatrick area of bullock. The deer from East bullock are tiny compared to those from my house and they are small compared to my Fitzpatrick place. It's really all about food, deer pop and private land vs paper company land and hogs. I could go on forever about this but east bullock is the most over rated area in the state for big bucks because of it's history. Well it ain't like it used to be nor is the hardaway swamp anymore because of one thing more then any other hogs... I don't remember the last deer killed at my house that wasn't over 220# with several over 230. Now Fitzpatrick I not even going there the deer are longer and bigger then my north pike county deer and I'll stop. I also have no hogs on either of my places or around me. I have actually laid out mature bucks from each area to compare them and the leanght is what jumps out with east bullock last by a long ways. Look east bullock has an absolute ton of deer but if killing big body high scoring bucks is your thing it ain't the place anymore. I have tried myself and have helped friends and managed places in that area and it's been the hardest area to manage and see any significant gains and it's getting worse every year. you are spot on about east bullock. I only hunted it 6-7 times all year. I see just as many deer in pike co. But they're wayyy bigger. I got tired of watching dinky deer. Now there are good ones that get killed. But on average my pike co. Land is much better imo.
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[Re: Forrestgump1]
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02/22/18 07:34 PM
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West of union springs has always put out some toads. East bullock is high numbers scrawny size. China grove in north pike and south montgomery and west bullock are the Meccas for number and size in that area of the state. From the North of the country mall to China Grove has been some hosses killed in recent years.
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[Re: paulfish4570]
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02/22/18 09:56 PM
02/22/18 09:56 PM
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Wetumpka, AL
ColeT
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maybe some michigan genes in that pike county herd? I know the brundige area has a northern strand. Know for a fact. And you can tell by the deer as well.
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