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Recruiting services #2414431
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Anyone have any experience with any of them and your kids?

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If your kid can play, college and pro scouts will find them. I was coach for over 30 years and dealt with plenty of recruiters in various sports and also had a son that went through the process. Every high school head coach is sent a form to fill out on his athletes. Other coaches from opposing teams will also inform scouts about potential players in the area. In baseball, if you think your son is a prospect, then send him to some of the summer camps of schools that he may be interested in. This way the coaches can get a good individual evaluation of the perspective prospect.

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Every hs coach may be sent a form...damn sure dont mean every coach will return it. Our pitching coach did 100% more than hs coach did...cause he did NOTHING. I do know the shelton st coach made the comment last month at his winter camp "be careful who/what you pay for summer ball".

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Re: Recruiting services [Re: imadeerhntr] #2414943
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If he's a football player he needs to attend a Rivals rating camp before he starts his JR year. Most are in February. Other than that, whether baseball or football, you need to have them attend the day camps at schools they are interested in playing. These "pay us and we will create a recruiting profile for your child and contact our list of coaches" are pretty much all scams and a waste of your time and money. If your kid can play coaches will find him. My lack of knowledge in the recruiting process limited my oldest son's exposure to some extent. I should have had him attending camps as a sophomore but waited til the summer before his senior year to start. I just didn't know any better at the time. Luckily for him, he played/ threw it very well at the first 2 camps he attended that spring/summer, got noticed by those staffs, and then got offers from almost every camp he attended after that.

In football, if your son is rated on Rivals, they track and update offers once you're in their database. Once you get that first offer, especially if it's a D1 school, other coaches will take notice and things will take off quickly from there. Baseball is the same way, it's all predicated on getting that first offer which essentially validates you as an athlete to other coaching staffs. Once you've got an offer in hand, you can have your son contact the staffs at other schools that he's interested in, and tell them that he's got an offer or offers from xxx, xxx university and is interested in their school and would like to attend one of their camps or workout for them and he will immediately get much more serious consideration than just a cold call or camp visit. That first offer gives him credibility with any staff he contacts. Most camps we attended had between 200 and 400 kids working out and the coaches generally only kept 5 or 6 players around after the camp to even discuss options. Unless you're a 4 or 5 star, already known to the staff, or your can throw it 80 yds, are 6'5" and 300, or run a 4.4, you've got to find someway to standout from the crowd. And trust me, there will be crowds at every camp you attend, regardless of the size of the school. D1, D2 or D3, they will all be packed.

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Originally Posted by abolt300
If he's a football player he needs to attend a Rivals rating camp before he starts his JR year. Most are in February. Other than that, whether baseball or football, you need to have them attend the day camps at schools they are interested in playing. These "pay us and we will create a recruiting profile for your child and contact our list of coaches" are pretty much all scams and a waste of your time and money. If your kid can play coaches will find him. My lack of knowledge in the recruiting process limited my oldest son's exposure to some extent. I should have had him attending camps as a sophomore but waited til the summer before his senior year to start. I just didn't know any better at the time. Luckily for him, he played/ threw it very well at the first 2 camps he attended that spring/summer, got noticed by those staffs, and then got offers from almost every camp he attended after that.

In football, if your son is rated on Rivals, they track and update offers once you're in their database. Once you get that first offer, especially if it's a D1 school, other coaches will take notice and things will take off quickly from there. Baseball is the same way, it's all predicated on getting that first offer which essentially validates you as an athlete to other coaching staffs. Once you've got an offer in hand, you can have your son contact the staffs at other schools that he's interested in, and tell them that he's got an offer or offers from xxx, xxx university and is interested in their school and would like to attend one of their camps or workout for them and he will immediately get much more serious consideration than just a cold call or camp visit. That first offer gives him credibility with any staff he contacts. Most camps we attended had between 200 and 400 kids working out and the coaches generally only kept 5 or 6 players around after the camp to even discuss options. Unless you're a 4 or 5 star, already known to the staff, or your can throw it 80 yds, are 6'5" and 300, or run a 4.4, you've got to find someway to standout from the crowd. And trust me, there will be crowds at every camp you attend, regardless of the size of the school. D1, D2 or D3, they will all be packed.

Spot on! Most of the recruiters that came in our office were more interested in who else had offered or was interested in an athlete than observing what the athlete could actually do.

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Originally Posted by gman
Every hs coach may be sent a form...damn sure dont mean every coach will return it. Our pitching coach did 100% more than hs coach did...cause he did NOTHING. I do know the shelton st coach made the comment last month at his winter camp "be careful who/what you pay for summer ball".

You are exactly right and I hated when a coach was too lazy or sorry to fill out a form on a worthy athlete.

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Unless your kid is at a well known high school I don’t believe it’s even factored in anymore. A coach can go to one perfect game tournament and see more kids than probably a year of following high school games

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Youre correct. Recruiters will still be at spring practices and popping in and out during summer practices for football but I cant remember seeing a single college recruiter show up at a baseball practice and very few even at games and I've had boys playing HS baseball for the past 8 yrs now. We've got (5) D1 signees, on my son's baseball team this year ( 2 Ole Miss, 1 Tenn, 1 LSU, and 1 Vandy). You'll see those coaches there at maybe 1 or 2 games a season to look at their guys but that is about it. We will have 8-10 college recruiters at most of our football practices and the same on the sideline at every home football game. I think you're 100% correct, on the baseball side, they just dont recruit by physically visiting the high schools anymore. It is all done at the travel ball tourneys.

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Hard for a college coach to get to a high school game since they're practicing/playing at pretty much the same time. Pretty cool to go to Lakepoint or east cobb and pick out the college coaches/recruiters. And why would they want to go to a hs game to see their guy play a team that might have a college level player on it, when they can go to lakepoint, sit in air conditioning and see 8 different teams playing, while only having to move a few feet? That's why a hs coach has work his butt off for his kids if he wants them to get noticed.


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For some reason, I guess population, the southeastern part of the state rarely has a division 1 quality player. I guess they have to catch them at a summer camp to get noticed.

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Originally Posted by imadeerhntr
Anyone have any experience with any of them and your kids?

For starters if they are asking you for money, they don't have relationships with College Coaches. Legitimate guys with connections charge the school a fee or do it for no charge. The if your good they'll find you theory is old school and out dated. You need to start ASAP if you kid has the potential to play at the next level. I can point you in the right direction if you want. It can get stressful, my son is a FBS football recruit right now.

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Originally Posted by CrappieKing
[quote=imadeerhntr] Anyone have any experience with any of them and your kids?

For starters if they are asking you for money, they don't have relationships with College Coaches. Legitimate guys with connections charge the school a fee or do it for no charge. The if your good they'll find you theory is old school and out dated. You need to start ASAP if you kid has the potential to play at the next level. I can point you in the right direction if you want. It can get stressful, my son is a FBS This was what I’m looking for


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