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Re: CCW - to buy a rifle
[Re: Beer Belly]
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02/20/18 01:49 PM
02/20/18 01:49 PM
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Driving a car isn't a constitutional right. Also, you don't need a license to buy a car, you need a license to operate it in public. So to really equate the two, you'd need to say "require a license to have a gun in public" - which already exists in many places (CC permit).
Last edited by GomerPyle; 02/20/18 01:50 PM.
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: CCW - to buy a rifle
[Re: GomerPyle]
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02/20/18 01:52 PM
02/20/18 01:52 PM
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Driving a car isn't a constitutional right. Also, you don't need a license to buy a car, you need a license to operate it in public. So to really equate the two, you'd need to say "require a license to have a gun in public" - which already exists in many places (CC permit). Exactly.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: CCW - to buy a rifle
[Re: GomerPyle]
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02/20/18 01:57 PM
02/20/18 01:57 PM
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hallb
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Driving a car isn't a constitutional right. Also, you don't need a license to buy a car, you need a license to operate it in public. So to really equate the two, you'd need to say "require a license to have a gun in public" - which already exists in many places (CC permit). Devils advocate: Buying a gun isn't a constitutional right. Keep and bear is. And actually, you need a license and insurance in order to buy a car, at least from a dealer. standard disclaimer: I want no more gun regulations and less government in my life overall.
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Re: CCW - to buy a rifle
[Re: hallb]
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02/20/18 02:00 PM
02/20/18 02:00 PM
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you need a license and insurance in order to buy a car, at least from a dealer. Don't take this personal, because it's not meant that way, but 'm gonna need to see some sort of documentation on that....that sounds a little hard to believe.
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: CCW - to buy a rifle
[Re: GomerPyle]
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02/20/18 02:15 PM
02/20/18 02:15 PM
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you need a license and insurance in order to buy a car, at least from a dealer. Don't take this personal, because it's not meant that way, but 'm gonna need to see some sort of documentation on that....that sounds a little hard to believe. I think this arose for the "STAR" act requiring you to "prove you are who you say". Alabama has it. Believe me, it took me over three hours last March to get all correct documents.
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Re: CCW - to buy a rifle
[Re: Beer Belly]
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02/20/18 02:20 PM
02/20/18 02:20 PM
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STAR act is for domestic air travel. Just gets the vetting process out of the way. Don't know of anything you gotta have other than cash/check to drive out with a vehicle? Gotta have license to get insurance...and insurance to get a tag.
The harder I practice, the luckier I get.
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Re: CCW - to buy a rifle
[Re: GomerPyle]
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02/20/18 02:23 PM
02/20/18 02:23 PM
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you need a license and insurance in order to buy a car, at least from a dealer. Don't take this personal, because it's not meant that way, but 'm gonna need to see some sort of documentation on that....that sounds a little hard to believe. Last 2 cars I have purchased from a dealer required ID and proof of insurance.
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Re: CCW - to buy a rifle
[Re: GomerPyle]
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02/20/18 02:31 PM
02/20/18 02:31 PM
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hallb
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you need a license and insurance in order to buy a car, at least from a dealer. Don't take this personal, because it's not meant that way, but 'm gonna need to see some sort of documentation on that....that sounds a little hard to believe. I just bought a brand new truck off the lot. They don't let you leave with it unless you have a valid driver's license and proof of insurance.
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Re: CCW - to buy a rifle
[Re: hallb]
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02/20/18 02:36 PM
02/20/18 02:36 PM
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GomerPyle
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you need a license and insurance in order to buy a car, at least from a dealer. Don't take this personal, because it's not meant that way, but 'm gonna need to see some sort of documentation on that....that sounds a little hard to believe. I just bought a brand new truck off the lot. They don't let you leave with it unless you have a valid driver's license and proof of insurance. Did they finance it in-house? I could see requiring some sort of ID for the purposes of a bill of sale, and I could see the driver's license (specifically) and proof of insurance if they're financing, but if you are paying cash, I don't understand how they can require a driver's license (as opposed to an alternate form of ID) or proof of insurance. Now they may have their own policy, but I'm not sure I believe that's law.
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: CCW - to buy a rifle
[Re: GomerPyle]
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02/20/18 03:05 PM
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you need a license and insurance in order to buy a car, at least from a dealer. Don't take this personal, because it's not meant that way, but 'm gonna need to see some sort of documentation on that....that sounds a little hard to believe. You're only required to provide proof of insurance if you finance it and you're only required to have a license to test drive one. You can pay cash and have a licensed driver test drive before you buy
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Re: CCW - to buy a rifle
[Re: Beer Belly]
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02/20/18 03:47 PM
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To drive a car you need a license.
Should people need a license to purchase a gun?
Absolutely Not. Youre delving into universal background checks when its a requirement to have a license to buy a firearm. The less government in our lives the better. I personally do not want anyone telling me what I can do with my personal property when I'm the one who paid for it
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
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Re: CCW - to buy a rifle
[Re: GomerPyle]
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02/20/18 04:12 PM
02/20/18 04:12 PM
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you need a license and insurance in order to buy a car, at least from a dealer. Don't take this personal, because it's not meant that way, but 'm gonna need to see some sort of documentation on that....that sounds a little hard to believe. Had to provide both to Tuscaloosa Toyota before leaving
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Re: CCW - to buy a rifle
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02/20/18 04:14 PM
02/20/18 04:14 PM
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GomerPyle
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you need a license and insurance in order to buy a car, at least from a dealer. Don't take this personal, because it's not meant that way, but 'm gonna need to see some sort of documentation on that....that sounds a little hard to believe. Had to provide both to Tuscaloosa Toyota before leaving Did you finance or pay in full? Did you trade a vehicle in (I could see them requiring ID to make sure you are the legal owner of the trade in). And again, I'm not doubting y'all saying they made you show this and that, I'm just curious A) about the details of the transaction, and B) if it's a law or just a dealership's policy.
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: CCW - to buy a rifle
[Re: Beer Belly]
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02/20/18 04:22 PM
02/20/18 04:22 PM
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jmudler
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Should people need a license to purchase a gun?
Hell No.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Re: CCW - to buy a rifle
[Re: Beer Belly]
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02/20/18 10:47 PM
02/20/18 10:47 PM
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cars aren't guns. no reason to even involve cars in the discussion. Constitution says "shall not be infringed". a permit infringes. in fact, there are too many gun laws now. yes, I do think those gun laws should go away and it should be like 1791... at least as far as some laws are concerned.
remember, the gun isn't the problem. and they aren't cars.
-Keith
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