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Florida Shooting Reason #2413364
02/20/18 10:09 AM
02/20/18 10:09 AM
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dead_eye Offline OP
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Any of y'all think this was a Soros/Democrat event to slow down the dossier, Nunez memo, and the other wins the Republicans have had recently?

I don't believe it, but just curious as to what you think.

Re: Florida Shooting Reason [Re: dead_eye] #2413365
02/20/18 10:12 AM
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I wouldn't doubt it. Too many of these incidents are perpetrated by gun hating liberals. It's no secret liberals and all their America hating causes are supported by Soros. But I think this is likely a lunatic that was ignored by every irresponsible adult he came into contact with. He could have been stopped at any of a dozen different points, the most recent being the FBI.


Character is not developed in moments of temptation and trial. That is when it is intended to be used.
Re: Florida Shooting Reason [Re: dead_eye] #2413368
02/20/18 10:13 AM
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I think it was a mentally ill man who should have been institutionalized years ago. Unfortunately, our nation has chosen to close mental health facilities and spend the money for other things. This action is coming back to bite us in the arse.

Re: Florida Shooting Reason [Re: getting old] #2413371
02/20/18 10:20 AM
02/20/18 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by getting old
I think it was a mentally ill man who should have been institutionalized years ago. Unfortunately, our nation has chosen to close mental health facilities and spend the money for other things. This action is coming back to bite us in the arse.


I agree with this statement 100%.


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Re: Florida Shooting Reason [Re: TR] #2413372
02/20/18 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TR
Originally Posted by getting old
I think it was a mentally ill man who should have been institutionalized years ago. Unfortunately, our nation has chosen to close mental health facilities and spend the money for other things. This action is coming back to bite us in the arse.


I agree with this statement 100%.



Yep, if any of you have ever had to deal with the mental health care in this country, you know how accurate this statement is.


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If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.


Re: Florida Shooting Reason [Re: dead_eye] #2413375
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It seems like every one is point blame instead of calling it like it is.

If the FBI would've done their job this shucks wouldn't have happened.

Re: Florida Shooting Reason [Re: dead_eye] #2413378
02/20/18 10:34 AM
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I ain't talking about everyone on this site. I agree with him being mentally I'll, not have a mentor, and no one to teach him right from wrong.

Re: Florida Shooting Reason [Re: dead_eye] #2413387
02/20/18 10:46 AM
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I have said for along time that parenting today is a lot of the problem with society. Like most people on here, growing up didn’t involve a video game, phone or tv. It was working, chores or whatever else you were told to do. There wasn’t no staying inside. I was outside from daylight to dark. Wasn’t allowed to come in the house till dinner time. If I was too dirty to come in, mom or dad would spray me off with the water hose in the yard.

That’s the problem with youth today, their parents sit them in front of tv or whatever so they can do their own thing.

We don’t have cable at our house. My kids are outside as much as possible or helping me when I am home doing projects or just playing with them. When I am at work they help momma with the household chores. They are 6 and 4 and use manners with everyone.

Rant over for now


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Re: Florida Shooting Reason [Re: getting old] #2413391
02/20/18 10:57 AM
02/20/18 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by getting old
I think it was a mentally ill man who should have been institutionalized years ago. Unfortunately, our nation has chosen to close mental health facilities and spend the money for other things. This action is coming back to bite us in the arse.


There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:

1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
Re: Florida Shooting Reason [Re: dead_eye] #2413394
02/20/18 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by dead_eye
I ain't talking about everyone on this site. I agree with him being mentally I'll, not have a mentor, and no one to teach him right from wrong.


It goes a whole lot deeper than "no one to teach him right from wrong". Any non-mentally-ill person, even those that are not religious, know that harming or murdering innocent people is wrong, without having to be taught. The guy is pure evil and/or mentally ill (some would argue the two are one in the same in this case, but that's another debate).


There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:

1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
Re: Florida Shooting Reason [Re: dead_eye] #2413396
02/20/18 11:01 AM
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FBI screwed the pooch.

Re: Florida Shooting Reason [Re: getting old] #2413400
02/20/18 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by getting old
I think it was a mentally ill man who should have been institutionalized years ago. Unfortunately, our nation has chosen to close mental health facilities and spend the money for other things. This action is coming back to bite us in the arse.


Agree. However, I do believe the Dem's would rather see America fail than Trump win.


Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Re: Florida Shooting Reason [Re: dead_eye] #2413416
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The guy was evil and posted his intentions on the internet. The feds/local pd dropped the ball.
Now whether or not someone else was involved in allowing it to happen remains to be told so far.


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The older I get the better I used to be
Re: Florida Shooting Reason [Re: dead_eye] #2413503
02/20/18 01:44 PM
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There were so many people that dropped the ball on this one, that it is hard to point a single finger.

Local police - They were called ~30 times on him
School - kids warned the school
FBI - They were contacted
Big Pharma
His counselor
How was he able to purchase guns
His step parents
His real parents
HIPPA laws
Lawers that would have sued the school for trying to do something


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Re: Florida Shooting Reason [Re: Beer Belly] #2413801
02/20/18 07:29 PM
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Maybe, just maybe the FBI field officer and possibly the supervisory structure really weren't so against an incident that would ignite once again a basic part of the liberal agenda (gun control) in their continued attempt to destroy President Trump. They allowed the same type guns to walk out of gun stores in Fast and Furious knowing they were going to Mexican gangs and be used in illegal activities. Then why not allow a psychopath on drugs to fulfill his destiny in becoming a school shooter? Nod, nod, wink, wink. The left will stop at nothing to destroy the Second Amendment. The FBI has been recently proven to be rotten to the core. This would fit their method of operation perfectly.

Re: Florida Shooting Reason [Re: getting old] #2413808
02/20/18 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by getting old
I think it was a mentally ill man who should have been institutionalized years ago. Unfortunately, our nation has chosen to close mental health facilities and spend the money for other things. This action is coming back to bite us in the arse.


Absolutely. I personally have arrested many people for crimes but they can not legally be put in a jail because it is illegal to hold someone that is mentally ill in a jail cell. We would take them to the county jail and they would be back out and in town before we were. It's the great dilemma. They commit crimes and are arrested but, by law, can't be held in jail if they have been adjudicated as mentally ill. The capper is that the state shut down any facility that LE had to place these people. It is a great revolving door where LE has to wait until they kill someone before it gets attention, and then their lawyer, rightfully so, will point out that they should have been given mental health treatment long ago.


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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02/20/18 07:44 PM
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The mental health system is broken and under- or non-funded in many states, which affects the judicial system, which ultimately affects the public in more ways than one.


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