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I assume the answer is it's not worth it, but am I right? Got a plot that usually gets browsed too hard for soybeans (not terrible results, but not great either). Thought about trying something different there, but my guess is coons or something would wipe everything out?

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corn or clover perhaps?


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I/C peas would be the way to go with sorghum


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It will grow and produce but unless you plant really late in the year it'll be gone before bow season

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I don't know what your deer density is, but corn will probably fare better than beans, because deer don't like corn until it's "done", meaning they won't browse the stalks like they do soybeans.I'd certainly plant an acre of corn, and have done so before with good results.

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Corn plant doesn’t get browsed like beans. Should be fine planting an acre

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Why not sunn hemp?


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Re: 1 acre of corn [Re: Joe4majors] #2408432
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Sunn hemp is the only thing I ever planted that the deer did not wipe out in a week. Going to try Tecomate horn maker.

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10#s of sun hemp and bag of iron clay peas and 2 hand full of sunflowers per acre. Spray generic prowl (it's the only pre tested that works with sun hemp to my knowledge) and watch it grow. The key is plant as early as you can depending on soil temp this will help with early browsing pressure. I mix 10 pounds or so of Laredo soybeans with my mix but they will get destroyed in a 1 acre plot so don't waste that money. This is my smaller field or bad soil mix but it may become a bigger part as I tweak my mix. I don't not fertilize this mix but I normally plant it in a existing plot that have residual P&K.

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This is the mix as it grew last year.[Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image]

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Dax, do you mow that down in the fall?

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Sunn hemp and clay peas.

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Do deer just not hammer sunn hemp the way they do beans, does it just grow faster than they can eat it, or is this planted in a low deer density area.


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It's growth rate far exceeds browse pressure. 3-6" growth per 5 days is typical.


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Re: 1 acre of corn [Re: Joe4majors] #2408543
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I mowed some and did T&M and plowed some and planted to see how they did compared to each other. T&M was not as pretty as the plowed but it did very well and it will definitely become they way I do most of my fields from now on.

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Corn will work fine in that size field. I have planted several that size and had good luck.


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I grew sun hemp 12-14 foot tall and the peas grew up them and pulled them down. I made tons of forage per acre at a low cost and that's the goal.

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Originally Posted by DAX
I mowed some and did T&M and plowed some and planted to see how they did compared to each other. T&M was not as pretty as the plowed but it did very well and it will definitely become they way I do most of my fields from now on.



Did you just spread through the tall stuff and then mow?

The reason I ask is I'm going to be doing sunn hemp and peas on a new property and was looking at maybe doing throw and mow this fall.

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I mowed first spread and used a specialized drag I made for sandy soil that just levels the trash and caught a rain.

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I cut and planted the same day caught a rain that night and it did fine. No gly because the field was clean under that jungle.

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What month are y'all planting sun hemp?


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Late April early May.

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I started planting my beans last year on March 31 and folks made fun of me but they weren't laughing when the got to 6+ foot tall. It's all about soil temp

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Can plant up til July 4 also. Stuff grows rapid and will grow up til a hard frost too. It's good for building up poor ground too or newly brought in logging decks, cutovers etc.


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If feeding deer is your goal not hunting over it then early planting is a great browse reduction tool.

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257 is dead on and I could tell the difference in the plots that had sun hemp during the summer. They looked better longer through the winter. I my opinion it should be a top option in poor soils and small areas and it a great mixer if the proper rates are used.

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I wouldn't mind having a summer plot, however, I don't know that I want it to wolf out like in the pics.


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Just don't get over 15lbs per acre sunn hemp in your mix. It will outcompete/shade out most growth. Dax's mix is a good one, I will do about the same this year. IC peas are cheap, fill the mix with them in place of Laredo beans in small plots. Or add a tall sorghum with less sunn hemp.

12-14 ft is no lie. I had a field full of it. These are 15lbs per acre, drilled and calibrated.

Mid-August in south Alabama, it was still growing at this point.
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Yeah don't play with beans in the mix unless you have a 5 acre field or your pissing in the wind. IC peas thrive in it and climb thats really all you needed unless you want to get cute like me. Remember keep the sun hemp to around 10#s so it doesn't crowd out the peas. I shot doves over it at my house this year on some with sunflower in them and the deer had destroyed the peas. I was able to do that because I sprayed a pre (prowl) and the field was clean other then the standing hemp and sunflower.

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Summer planter secret here over browsing is bad but weed competition after early browsing equals crop failure. A weed free field especially early in growing season after the browsing starts is key to good results.

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Originally Posted by DAX
This is the mix as it grew last year.[Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image]


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It is recommended to mow the sunn hemp when it gets 6' tall down to 18" and let it regrow, that keeps the stalks from becoming to big and hard and also keeps it young and deer like young growth.

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dax how hard is it to get the field cleaned up to plant for fall after having the sun hemp in there, If you don't have alot of time to come back and bush hog it through the summer is it worth planting?


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The reason it looks like that is because of the amount of acres I plant and they were preoccupied with other fields at different times during the summer (soybeans). As you see form the pics sun hemp is a tool to help the peas and other plants in the mix and to creat max biomass. Now by October they had ate everything including the leaves on the hemp they could reach. Something I've noticed is the deer love the hemp when it is small they seemed to browse on it and leave everything else alone at first. This gives the peas time to get well established. Another big factor to growing the jungles last year was the amount of rain and early planting. I put a homemade plot saver on one field as a test and it got out of control the growth was unbelievable but after taking it down they eventually cleaned it out.

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So y'all are planting sun hemp in the warm season, then mowing and planting cool season crops? Seems like a winner.

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It's a little tuff to disc even with nice big equipment but I put the bat wing on it and it did fine. Basically looked like other areas that were over grown. I did have a small pile or two of stubble in every field but by December they looked just like the plowed fields. I did have to run over some of it a couple times but it beats plowing and leveling/dragging.

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Originally Posted by blumsden
It is recommended to mow the sunn hemp when it gets 6' tall down to 18" and let it regrow, that keeps the stalks from becoming to big and hard and also keeps it young and deer like young growth.


I assume you mean a field that is just Sunn Hemp. If it was a mix wouldnt you be mowing the peas down? I have had a poor crop of soybeans the last few years and corn is so expensive, I had planned on planting 40 pounds of IC and 10 pounds of sunflowers per acre in my big fields (most are 5-8 acres). Should I use sunn hemp instead of sunflowers?

I was thinking the IC\Sunflowers so I would not have to mow it to keep the stalks under control so I could plant a cool season crop in them in the fall.


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I don't touch it during the summer by late September early October it's going to be annihilated or the peas will be anyhow. Just mow the standing hemp spray gly if it's needed and spread cereal grains and clover. Add some cereal rye in your fall plot mix it does very well in T&M and so does any small clover type seed.

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Oats don't do as well as wheat and cereal rye in T&M in my experience but I put some in my mix anyhow. I plant 150# min of cereal per acre normally wheat is my base and cereal rye and oats are are added in smaller amounts. Then I come back and top sow clover by itself so I now exactly how much I'm putting out after I have got the field the way I want it. I never drag or cover clover I spread in on finished fields and hope for rain.

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I like a mix of sunn hemp and buckwheat. After 60 days the sunn hemp is around 6' tall and the buckwheat has seeded out. At this point bushhog the field down to about 18" and the sunn hemp will take off again and the buckwheat will resprout from the seed you disbursed when you bushhogged. The buckwheat adds more phosphorous than the sunn hemp, so your getting all three,N,P,and K. Letting the sunn hemp go longer can cause the nitrogen to get bond up in the soil and not release for several months. That's not me talking it's what I've read. BTW, if you use cowpea's instead of buckwheat, you can mow them and they'll still grow. If building your soil, this is a great method, lots of biomass.

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Originally Posted by blumsden
I like a mix of sunn hemp and buckwheat. After 60 days the sunn hemp is around 6' tall and the buckwheat has seeded out. At this point bushhog the field down to about 18" and the sunn hemp will take off again and the buckwheat will resprout from the seed you disbursed when you bushhogged. The buckwheat adds more phosphorous than the sunn hemp, so your getting all three,N,P,and K. Letting the sunn hemp go longer can cause the nitrogen to get bond up in the soil and not release for several months. That's not me talking it's what I've read. BTW, if you use cowpea's instead of buckwheat, you can mow them and they'll still grow. If building your soil, this is a great method, lots of biomass.

Good post. The number 1 problem I see consulting is guys know or have read what to plant they just can't get from A-Z or want to plant something that will not perform as well in there soil or size plots. I believe those of us that know tricks and secrets to plot success should spill the beans because we will help ourselves out by helping our neighbors and so on to improve our states deer herd. That being said I nor anybody on here have the perfect awnser to a one size fits all planting guide site unseen but if asked I will give my opinion and help if I can. The best biologist and deer managers change and adapt to the best new ideas and technology and to me this is my drug and addiction. I try something different and new every year to meet my goals. This brings me to another point goals of summer plots are you wanting bigger bucks or attraction to hunt over or a combination of both. A lot of disagreement on here is because of different goals. Example I have no club or members on my place and I want to grow monsters so everything planted is to grow them killing them is a after thought. I myself no longer plant corn I want something producing during the summer months instead of fall attraction. My point is I will awnser any question just let me know what your goals are and don't bash either side of the spectrum. I don't expect or think anyone should do the things I do I am just showing you guys my experiences and knowledge about something I love.

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Also knowing the kind of equipment, budget and plantable acres you are working with is another big factor to getting good advice.

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Example it's a helluva a lot easier and cheaper to plant just about anything besides corn for most folks. I would no-till drill corn on 21 inch rows and had great success and it was eazy to spray but most don't have a drill or big planters. You would never see me plant corn behind a old set of 2 row Covington's or something just to much trouble for me anymore but back when that was all I had I loved it. You just want to maximize your plant per dollar and time don't lock on to one thing like corn or nothing. I am bad about soybeans I want them everywhere on my place and have to calm down and remember that it may not be best in every situation.

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I guess I need to find someone who wants to split a bag of sunhemp and try it. I only need enough for 2 acres.


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What about sun hemp and brown top?

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The sunhemp will shade out the browntop.


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T neck is right but if you decrease the amount of hemp in your mix you can plant just about anything with it but you maybe defeating the purpose. The problem with mixing broadleaf and grass seed is spraying a pre or and chemicals. I would plant brown top by itself but be careful if you plant it you'll have it even when you don't want it. Also hemp does better with climbing legumes or a tall broadleaf like sunflower. The best thing are vining beans or peas such as quail haven soybeans or top gun soybeans and cow peas is at the top of the list. I tested some top gun beans last year on about an acre in my back yard and did the same with Laredo soybeans mixed with sun hemp. The laredo's did ok but matured to fast and got browsed to death but they did make beans and got about 30" tall. The top gun looked like kudzu they ran across the ground first then climbed the hemp they continued to grow back until first frost. They didn't get very tall they just throw vines and I don't think I made near the tonnage that I was hoping. The IC cow peas over performed my expectations in the mix in areas that nothing can deal with the browse pressure. I did mix beans in with them on some of the larger fields probably 10-15 pounds or so and they did well also. Moisture played a big role in last year's success and I can't expect that to continue but I had some unbelievable results with my hemp mixes.

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1acre of corn will do fine but when it matures the deer, coons, etc. will take it out quicker than you
can even imagine if you have many deer. I planted a 4 acre corn field last year for the first time and it far exceeded my expectations. It did exceptionally well and every stalk had 3-6 ears. I was thinking the corn would last well into the season. It didn't. The deer flocked to it like a swarm of locusts. It was gone in 2-3weeks. Planted in early April and it was gone by 1st of August. In the future, I won't plant less than 10-15 acres

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Originally Posted by ronfromramer
1acre of corn will do fine but when it matures the deer, coons, etc. will take it out quicker than you
can even imagine if you have many deer. I planted a 4 acre corn field last year for the first time and it far exceeded my expectations. It did exceptionally well and every stalk had 3-6 ears. I was thinking the corn would last well into the season. It didn't. The deer flocked to it like a swarm of locusts. It was gone in 2-3weeks. Planted in early April and it was gone by 1st of August. In the future, I won't plant less than 10-15 acres


You obviously have way more deer than average. We planted a 4 acre corn field and had whole ears left last weekend. I'd say our population is average.

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I guess I have too many deer. Ill just have to live with it, could be a lot worse. I can't imagine what it would be like to have an "average number of deer" that would take 7 months to eat 4 acres of corn

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Originally Posted by ronfromramer
I guess I have too many deer. Ill just have to live with it, could be a lot worse. I can't imagine what it would be like to have an "average number of deer" that would take 7 months to eat 4 acres of corn


It’s not too bad, but it’s not in South Montgomery county. Easily some of the best hunting in the state.

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I guess it's a good thing the coyotes are keeping the population in check but I still hate those
murderous critters. I see more does without fawns than with them but if they all had twins that survived I guess they'd all starve to death sooner or later. A lot of days I see 15 or 20 deer on a 1 1/2 or 2 acre green field. Anything i plant in spring or summer has to be at least 4 acres or it doesn't have a snowballs chance

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I bet your deer density is 60+ deer/sq mile. I bet mine's 10.

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