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Never thought I'd see this with NASCAR
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02/11/18 12:19 PM
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Clem
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I don't watch NASCAR much anymore, maybe a few laps here and there flipping around channels.
Saturday afternoon doing that I saw the ARCA race from Daytona and stopped for a few laps. Wanted to see the changes to the cars since the last time I saw an ARCA race many years ago. They're more streamlined and definitely are cleaner, from a paint-advertising-PR standpoint and I get that since it's about entertainment and revenue.
And then they mentioned a female driver. OK, fine, cool, I'm down with that. I don't care who's behind the wheel as long as they're qualified.
And then they mentioned the female driver's sponsor -- VEGANSTRONG.COM -- and showed the in-car camera with the VEGAN STRONG decal on the dash in clear view.
NASCAR, the organization founded on moonshiners beating the G-Man on backroads and racing on the beach with white redneck crackers drinking whatever bad beer, now has a driver who is promoting a vegan lifestyle. Not just vegetarian, but vegan - which is different. Vegans don't believe in "exploitation of animals for the use by man." Vegetarians may still chomp on fish or dairy products, but generally eschew meat. Vegans take it further.
Interestingly, veganism began in 1944 and grew during ... wait, wait ... the late 1950s and '60s as liberalism grew on the east and west coasts as they railed against the growth of agriculture and capitalism.
I wonder how many vegans watch NASCAR vs. how many eat steaks, brats, chicken wings? Never believed I'd see the day. Dang.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Never thought I'd see this with NASCAR
[Re: Clem]
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02/11/18 12:36 PM
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NASCAR went to hell years ago.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Never thought I'd see this with NASCAR
[Re: Clem]
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02/11/18 12:41 PM
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Nascrap will have openly gay drivers very soon I'm sure. Not to mention cars on twentyfo's type drivers being streamlined to the front. It's coming. That's why when Dale died the sport did too. Or davey really for me.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Never thought I'd see this with NASCAR
[Re: Clem]
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02/11/18 12:48 PM
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NASCAR died when Dale died.
They got too big for their britches, stars in their eyes, jets and money and big corporate PR crap, and forgot about their fan base while trying to be the country version of Indy and Formula 1.
At one of the first NASCAR races at Talladega I covered back in the late 1990s, the garages were still open and PR people weren't arrogant assholes. I was standing at one garage bay watching the guys work on Petty's car. King Richard walked up beside me, we chatted for a moment and shook hands, and he walked on into the bay. I didn't whip out my notebook or anything - we just had a nice, casual chat.
Another time, I saw Bill Jordan in the garage area. We chatted a moment. "C'mon, I'm going to the hauler to watch Dale qualify." I followed him and climbed on top of Earnhard's hauler with Bill and stood there with him, Richard Childress and 2-3 other people watching the 3 car. No PR lackies, no fences or KEEP OUT "Who are you?" crap. When he finished, I climbed down and went on my way.
Now? Maybe 10-15 minute media interviews and no substance to them. If you walk around a garage bay it's like you're a Commie spy. Corporate "friends" clogging up areas and all the pre-race falderol trying to hype it up along with concerts and crap. Meh. It's not racing and innovation anymore. It's entertainment, glitz and money.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Never thought I'd see this with NASCAR
[Re: Clem]
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02/11/18 01:24 PM
02/11/18 01:24 PM
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Their ratings aren't as high as in the past but they still draw good numbers. So yeah, some people are watching. Ratings have declined for auto racing across all formats in the last 10 or so years but "no one is watching" isn't true.
Otherwise they wouldn't be on the major networks.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Never thought I'd see this with NASCAR
[Re: Clem]
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02/11/18 01:30 PM
02/11/18 01:30 PM
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I’m still waiting on the first transgender faggot to drive a NASCAR with Vasoline as its sponsor .
NASCAR hasn’t been the same to me since the Allison’s, Yarbourgh and Earhart. Back when they would kick someone’s ass for cutting them off, now these asswipes probably are licking each other’s ass.
Lone Watie: I'm glad you stopped me when you did. I might have killed her
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Re: Never thought I'd see this with NASCAR
[Re: Clem]
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02/11/18 03:21 PM
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Technically, ARCA isn't affiliated with NASCAR but the point still holds true. The NASCAR of today is nothing more than glorified marketing. There's no sport left in it.
I miss the old days of Ken Squire calling races and twice a year mini "vacations" to the Talladega infield. Sadly, those days are long gone.
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Re: Never thought I'd see this with NASCAR
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02/11/18 09:02 PM
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Turn left, turn left, turn left, turn left. Never saw the attraction to it.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: Never thought I'd see this with NASCAR
[Re: Clem]
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02/12/18 03:34 PM
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Vegetarians don't want to eat meat. Vegans don't want YOU to eat meat (or consume/use any food/drink/products made from animals). That's the difference.
Nascar, in it's current form, may be the single worst-run business there is. They have completely lost touch with reality when it comes to their fan base and what made them popular to begin with, and they're either too stupid to realize it or they just. don't. care.
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars 2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement 3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: Never thought I'd see this with NASCAR
[Re: FurFlyin]
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02/12/18 05:14 PM
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Turn left, turn left, turn left, turn left. Never saw the attraction to it. Same for me. It's next to golf, for me, as far as being an enjoyable sport to watch televised.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: Never thought I'd see this with NASCAR
[Re: Clem]
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02/12/18 06:12 PM
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I've pretty lost interest too. But drive one sometime and you'll understand why they do it. Besides the money..
Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
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Re: Never thought I'd see this with NASCAR
[Re: Clem]
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02/12/18 07:19 PM
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NASCAR died when Dale died.
They got too big for their britches, stars in their eyes, jets and money and big corporate PR crap, and forgot about their fan base while trying to be the country version of Indy and Formula 1.
At one of the first NASCAR races at Talladega I covered back in the late 1990s, the garages were still open and PR people weren't arrogant assholes. I was standing at one garage bay watching the guys work on Petty's car. King Richard walked up beside me, we chatted for a moment and shook hands, and he walked on into the bay. I didn't whip out my notebook or anything - we just had a nice, casual chat.
Another time, I saw Bill Jordan in the garage area. We chatted a moment. "C'mon, I'm going to the hauler to watch Dale qualify." I followed him and climbed on top of Earnhard's hauler with Bill and stood there with him, Richard Childress and 2-3 other people watching the 3 car. No PR lackies, no fences or KEEP OUT "Who are you?" crap. When he finished, I climbed down and went on my way.
Now? Maybe 10-15 minute media interviews and no substance to them. If you walk around a garage bay it's like you're a Commie spy. Corporate "friends" clogging up areas and all the pre-race falderol trying to hype it up along with concerts and crap. Meh. It's not racing and innovation anymore. It's entertainment, glitz and money. No doubt about it. It has been downhill ever since Dale Sr died.. Its almost like they knew the good ole boy days were over, and then they could coroporatize it even more by making everything politically correct. I miss the days of Jimmy Spencer punching Kurt Busch in the face the days of the Intimidator wrecking Rusty Wallace to win or whoever for that matter then begging them to do something about it. Nascar thought by going more corporate the sport would grow but they lost all touch with the folks that got them there.
Last edited by olemossy; 02/12/18 07:20 PM.
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Re: Never thought I'd see this with NASCAR
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02/12/18 07:45 PM
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Turn left, turn left, turn left, WRECK,turn left. Never saw the attraction to it. Fixed it for you
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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Re: Never thought I'd see this with NASCAR
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02/13/18 01:47 PM
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Nascrap will have openly gay drivers very soon I'm sure. Jeff Gordons Gay! Even wrote a song about it.
"It's not how hard you can hit, it's how hard you can get hit and keep going" Rocky Balboa
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Re: Never thought I'd see this with NASCAR
[Re: AU7MM08]
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02/13/18 04:34 PM
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Clem
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I just don't get why the Vegan group thinks they would get any return on investment from a NASCAR sponsorship, maybe they did it just to say they did? This was my first thought. I'm sure they believe they will get some television time (they did, obviously) with the female driver and attention that goes with her being out there. But to what end? This would be like the pro rodeo tour buying a booth at the vegan healthy living expo. Or NASCAR or Pro Bull Riding or a camouflauge company buying commercial time on HGTV or "Project Runway." Doesn't make sense. Even if the vegan company-site gets TV time, what NASCAR or auto racing fan is going to go to it? Just seems weird. However, at some point over the length of the ARCA and racing season, some of the bigger media outlets will probably write about them or put them on the TV-web. The PR people for the vegan driver is no doubt furiously pitching her to big news media - not the sports writers, but the feature-lifestyle-news writers and producers as the "new wave of drivers." And some will bite, and report on her and give the vegan site some inclusion, and thus they will have the PR win. Bigger picture.
Last edited by Clem; 02/13/18 04:36 PM.
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"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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