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Re: Should I switch broadheads?
[Re: hsvbama]
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02/04/18 09:54 PM
02/04/18 09:54 PM
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sluggun
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It's not the broadheads fault. No broadheads can make up for poor shot placement. If you hunt long enough you're gonna loose one.
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Re: Should I switch broadheads?
[Re: hsvbama]
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02/05/18 12:55 AM
02/05/18 12:55 AM
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perchjerker
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Sluggun is right. Practice practice. Don't take ifffy shots. Wait till the deer is closer. Only take high probability shots. Yeah, you might can hit a deer at 40 plus yards. It's better to be a responsible hunter and only take kill shots, not wound deer.
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
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Re: Should I switch broadheads?
[Re: sluggun]
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02/05/18 05:43 AM
02/05/18 05:43 AM
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Shaw
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It's not the broadheads fault. No broadheads can make up for poor shot placement. If you hunt long enough you're gonna loose one. This
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Re: Should I switch broadheads?
[Re: hsvbama]
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02/05/18 01:39 PM
02/05/18 01:39 PM
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Posts: 1,644 Pine Hill, Al
sluggun
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What broadheads do you use sluggun? I use a 100 grain Wasp boss sst. It's a 3 blade fixed broadhead. When a deer is quartering to you the margin for error is high. Your shot may have hit right where you were aiming but a deer only has to move inches for it to turn out wrong. Some shots whether with a gun or a bow they just don't bleed right away. Now your deer probably once his chest filled with blood then he started to bleed. May have been 150-200 yards from where he was shot but once the rain set in, without being able to use a dog, you were screwed. Get you some lighted nocks so you can see exactly where the arrow hits. This will give you a better idea of whether you need to go after him right away or give it time. I can't say that I wouldn't have taken that shot my self but you want to aim for where the arrow will exit. Odds were against you this time but who knows you may get another chance at him. Without a recovery there's no guarantee you killed him.
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Re: Should I switch broadheads?
[Re: hsvbama]
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02/05/18 04:34 PM
02/05/18 04:34 PM
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Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,258 Demopolis, Al
FlyinRN
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Everyone has told you the truth (better shot placement, practice, all broadheads will kill a deer, yada, yada,yada). No one has answered your questions...but I will. “Should I switch broadheads?” Yes! “Will a different broadhead help on not so perfect shots?” YES! Provided you have enough KE, get you a reputable mechanical head with 1.5”-2” cut. I have recovered countless deer with marginal hits. Rage Hypodermic is a good one. I prefer 3 blades so I use Grim Reaper Razortips 1 3/8” cut. They also penetrate better than any expandable I’ve shot. Yes, if you shoot enough deer with your bow, you’re going to lose a few. It sucks! But I like a big wound, even if I occasionally don’t get an exit wound.
Also, you need to know what you’re looking at when tracking. If you have double lunged one, you should find it within 100 yds. If you’ve gone past that, you need to back out and give it some time.
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Re: Should I switch broadheads?
[Re: FlyinRN]
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02/05/18 07:33 PM
02/05/18 07:33 PM
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Atoler
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Everyone has told you the truth (better shot placement, practice, all broadheads will kill a deer, yada, yada,yada). No one has answered your questions...but I will. “Should I switch broadheads?” Yes! “Will a different broadhead help on not so perfect shots?” YES! Provided you have enough KE, get you a reputable mechanical head with 1.5”-2” cut. I have recovered countless deer with marginal hits. Rage Hypodermic is a good one. I prefer 3 blades so I use Grim Reaper Razortips 1 3/8” cut. They also penetrate better than any expandable I’ve shot. Yes, if you shoot enough deer with your bow, you’re going to lose a few. It sucks! But I like a big wound, even if I occasionally don’t get an exit wound.
Also, you need to know what you’re looking at when tracking. If you have double lunged one, you should find it within 100 yds. If you’ve gone past that, you need to back out and give it some time. A big mechanical has advantages, like it's better in a gut shot situation. But a fixed blade is certainly better in a shoulder shot. Both will kill the deer with a marginal shot in the body, the same can't be said for a shoulder shot.
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Re: Should I switch broadheads?
[Re: Atoler]
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02/07/18 01:13 AM
02/07/18 01:13 AM
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Posts: 1,258 Demopolis, Al
FlyinRN
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Everyone has told you the truth (better shot placement, practice, all broadheads will kill a deer, yada, yada,yada). No one has answered your questions...but I will. “Should I switch broadheads?” Yes! “Will a different broadhead help on not so perfect shots?” YES! Provided you have enough KE, get you a reputable mechanical head with 1.5”-2” cut. I have recovered countless deer with marginal hits. Rage Hypodermic is a good one. I prefer 3 blades so I use Grim Reaper Razortips 1 3/8” cut. They also penetrate better than any expandable I’ve shot. Yes, if you shoot enough deer with your bow, you’re going to lose a few. It sucks! But I like a big wound, even if I occasionally don’t get an exit wound.
Also, you need to know what you’re looking at when tracking. If you have double lunged one, you should find it within 100 yds. If you’ve gone past that, you need to back out and give it some time. A big mechanical has advantages, like it's better in a gut shot situation. But a fixed blade is certainly better in a shoulder shot. Both will kill the deer with a marginal shot in the body, the same can't be said for a shoulder shot. That’s why I don’t shoot them in the shoulder.
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Re: Should I switch broadheads?
[Re: hsvbama]
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02/07/18 01:24 PM
02/07/18 01:24 PM
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BamaGuitarDude
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Atoler, would you use a fixed blade broadhead to allow a direct shoulder shot when necessary? Or are you just saying for margin on errant shots. Just thinking for my specific setup on that deer. It was quartering toward me at maybe 10-15 degrees max. So only slightly. Not like 45 or anything. What is entry and exit location for that bow shot? I aimed as tight as I could to the back of shoulder and center mass. What about rifle shot? Deer was standing still but alert since I grunted him to a stop. i don't think he's recommending that you take shoulder shots w/your fixed bh's ... he's just saying *IF* a fixed bh encounters the shoulder it typically does a better job vs. a mech bh ... but i'll let him answer you specifically ... rifle or bow, i don't like quartering to shots - period ... on both weapons, i like to take straight broadside or slightly quartering away shots ... to Atoler's point, the first deer i shot w/my bow years ago now was slightly quartering away so it entered in her chest & wrecked her opposite shoulder ... i was using a fixed bh & it remained intact & she obviously didn't go very far at all ... i was amazed & pleased to see the jellied meat on the opposite shoulder (see pic below) ... that happens to be a toxic bh but i've had muzzy 3-blades do the same thing ... the arrow snapped & lodged inside her ... btw, sorry to hear you didn't recover that buck; it sucks when that happens ... it's easy to "over-analyze" & get down on yourself, but sometimes you just gotta chalk it up to plain ole "chit happens" & just stay after it ...
Last edited by BamaGuitarDude; 02/07/18 01:38 PM.
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Re: Should I switch broadheads?
[Re: FlyinRN]
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02/08/18 08:32 AM
02/08/18 08:32 AM
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Posts: 2,236 Danville, AL
RobertM
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Ummm...behind the shoulder. That's great sir. I believe Atoler was try to point a marginal area that could easily be hit with a bad shot that a fixed blade broadhead would be a better option.
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