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Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L #2372892
01/15/18 01:28 PM
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So my 2007 GMC Sierra is sick...notorious lifter problems has potentially caught up with me at 197K miles. Knew it was coming eventually. It's still drivable, but running very rough: missing, shifting hard in gears R,1,2 & a little on 3. Code pulled today said cylinder 4 coil. Replaced that but spark plug with only 28K miles was rusted and fully corroded. Running better now than yesterday, but still rough and hard shifting. Misfire is turning off traction control and stabilitrack systems.

So....need Aldeer advice.

1. Replacement of cam & lifters (pull heads) is a big and expensive job. I've gotten one quote so far for $5,285 - GM parts and labor. Is this a typical price?

2. New engine quote was $7,800. I have no idea if that is a fair quote.

Anyone with first hand knowledge on reasonable costs?

Would you replace engine or just repair? I'm not wanting to buy a new or used truck.

In the Birmingham, Hoover, Shelby County area...give me some good auto repair shops to contact. I don't have one that I trust for big stuff...I've been fortunate to only have minor issues with vehicles over the years.

Thanks!







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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2372893
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Man i'll have to asked my stepdad tomorrow. His 07 was done (rebuilt) probably 2 years ago. I know he didn't pay no 5 grand (not sure exact figure) though......


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2372904
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Have you considered an option C, a well sorted low mile junkyard motor and then do any necessary overhauling on that motor.

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2372911
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For the shop suggestion, I would give Hoggin a crack at it.

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2372919
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Those prices sound crazy...

I would call Esco Automotive if he is somewhat local to you.


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2372986
01/15/18 02:38 PM
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Just put a brand new GM 5.3 in my cousin's 04 GMC last summer. Total cost was $5200.
My wife's 08 Silverado had to have a cam and lifters 2 years ago. That was $3000.

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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2372995
01/15/18 02:43 PM
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My first instinct was those prices were very high.


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2373034
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U can buy a motor for half that or less if u look around


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2373062
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You should be able to find a reman motor for $2k-$2500. Head job (yes it better be a good one) should be less.

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2373134
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That seems very high - we put a Jasper remanufactured in our 96' Z71 and it's been solid. Go ahead and pay the extra for the installation kit to replace most of the older stuff on the engine. Basically, with the Jasper reman/install kit - they will reuse your intake manifold, throttle body and injectors. Assuming all the electronics are good on your vehicle, it is a pretty good deal.

3-yr/100,000 mile warranty.


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2373234
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That's bad high.

Here's a new crate motor

http://www.gmpowertrainwarehouse.com/19178614.asp


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: gundoc] #2373277
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Keep in mind he said parts and labor, new engines need new filters and fluids before you start them as well. Those prices are about $2k more than it should cost. Summit racing usually has the best price on gm warrantied long blocks unless one of the dealers has one they got stuck with and wanna move.

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: hoggin] #2373347
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Originally Posted By: hoggin
Keep in mind he said parts and labor, new engines need new filters and fluids before you start them as well. Those prices are about $2k more than it should cost. Summit racing usually has the best price on gm warrantied long blocks unless one of the dealers has one they got stuck with and wanna move.



True, and I understand that. Just guessing though, R and R should take what 10 hours? Going labor rate is around $100.00 ?


All fluids and filters and misc parts around $500.00 ?

Even padding it, $2K would probably easily cover installation?

So out the door with a new motor he'd be looking at $5600.00 for a new motor installed, right? Or am I way off base?


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: gundoc] #2373409
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No your pretty close

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2373430
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I had my '08 replaced with a Jasper remanufactured motor for $5,300 almost four years ago.


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2373487
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I'm not a fan of jasper engines. They have went down hill. I've seen them tore down and have 3 different size pistons. Saw one where they put the wrong head bolts in. You ever seen a head get blown off? It's not pretty. I had the pics but lost them when I got a new phone.

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2373504
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Rusted plugs? Sounds like a head gasket if your getting water in combustion. Pull heads and check for leaking water jacket. Also check for play in your distributor tbose brass gears wear down and but alot of slop in the ingnition timing.

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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2373508
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When a shop starts trying to sell you a new motor its their way of saying we dont know wtf is wrong but a new engine will fix it

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2373510
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If you convinced its lifters take the heads to cylinder head exchange to swap out then just put the refabs back in few hundred dollars in the driveway its not that big a job

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: GKelly] #2373517
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Originally Posted By: GKelly
Rusted plugs? Sounds like a head gasket if your getting water in combustion. Pull heads and check for leaking water jacket. Also check for play in your distributor tbose brass gears wear down and but alot of slop in the ingnition timing.


It doesn't have a distributor, not even anything that resembles where one would have been. No way possible to have any slop at all in ignition timing, nothing that would resemble it.

When some shops tell you that you need an engine it may just be because you used yours to much when it was new, I don't know if he needs an engine or not, I haven't seen the truck but I promise it ain't the distributor

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: GKelly] #2373518
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Originally Posted By: GKelly
If you convinced its lifters take the heads to cylinder head exchange to swap out then just put the refabs back in few hundred dollars in the driveway its not that big a job


I can tell beyond any doubt that your giving advice that you've never used and your a French internet model. If you can do a set of heads on a late model GM small block for a couple hundred, you have a new very lucrative career. We start at 8 am

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2373520
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Heck with the dealer ! Try to find a reputable bissness and have them break it down . If it's just the lifters . install a lifter kit but if your cam is jacked up you may won't to consider a jasper . Because you will still have metal inside your motor regardless of a cam/lifter job . A jasper LH6 is prob going to run you around 6k installed . If you can just replace the lifters for 1000 to 1500 make sure you turn off your AFM . Active fuel management is what jacked your motor up .

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2373534
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Mike, I had the same symptoms, on the same cylinder on my 07 Suburban. I figured it was my cam or a lifter (based on the internet horror stories)until I pulled the valve cover. With valve cover off and engine running, my valves were moving like they were supposed to. I had no compression on that cylinder.
I pulled the head and thankfully I found a burnt exhaust valve on that cylinder. Napa had the valve in stock.
Doing it all myself was about $150. New valve, head gasket, head bolts, valve compound and fluids. I didn’t replace the intake gasket, based on recommendations from a LS engine forum. I rented the valve spring compressor from Advance for free.
It's been over 6,000 miles and the spark plug still looks great.
Hopefully this is also your problem.





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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: dnolen] #2373567
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Originally Posted By: dnolen
I'm not a fan of jasper engines. They have went down hill. I've seen them tore down and have 3 different size pistons. Saw one where they put the wrong head bolts in. You ever seen a head get blown off? It's not pretty. I had the pics but lost them when I got a new phone.


Been going strong for 95K miles since I made the change. Doesn't burn any oil. Original engine was burning a quart every 1000 miles. Damned active fuel management system. All of the 07-09 GM 5.3 models end up in this situation. They fixed these issues starting with the 2010 models.


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: AU338MAG] #2373576
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Originally Posted By: AU338MAG
Damned active fuel management system. All of the 07-09 GM 5.3 models end up in this situation.

Thats exactly what caused the damage to my Silverado.
I had that schit deleted when we replaced the cam.
I always hated it anyway. I bought 8 cylinders, I want it to run on 8 cylinders, ALL THE TIME!


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: Out back] #2373582
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They do burn valves a good bit, I invested in a camera so I could pull the plugs and check that without pulling the heads, it's a cool little gadget. Takes a lot of guess work out of it

And no Outback you cannot borrow it to use in the ladies room at Walmart

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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2373589
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Installing a Range Technology module will keep the AFM from activating.
We currently have 2 of these in use.


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I'd rather be LOST in the woods than FOUND in the city.

Drive a hybrid, I need your gas.

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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2373595
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For all that's holy and sacred we need carbed pushrod V8s as good Lord intended.

If your truck ain't got a carbed pushrod V8 and mud tires as it should that will result in extra years in purgatory. Choose wisely my friends.

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: hoggin] #2373616
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Originally Posted By: hoggin
Originally Posted By: GKelly
If you convinced its lifters take the heads to cylinder head exchange to swap out then just put the refabs back in few hundred dollars in the driveway its not that big a job


I can tell beyond any doubt that your giving advice that you've never used and your a French internet model. If you can do a set of heads on a late model GM small block for a couple hundred, you have a new very lucrative career. We start at 8 am


rofl


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2373641
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There are usually signs that you have a blown head gasket. Loss of water in radiator, water or steam coming from exhaust or even the smell of antifreeze in the exhaust. I replaced the lifters in a Chevy Nova in 74. They were making a clattering noise. It was a pain too.


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: AU7MM08] #2373685
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Originally Posted By: AU7MM08
For all that's holy and sacred we need carbed pushrod V8s as good Lord intended.

If your truck ain't got a carbed pushrod V8 and mud tires as it should that will result in extra years in purgatory. Choose wisely my friends.


After working on those for years, good luck with that! Sure they are great on the weekends but the adults here are talking about daily drivers.


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: hoggin] #2373690
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Originally Posted By: hoggin
Originally Posted By: GKelly
If you convinced its lifters take the heads to cylinder head exchange to swap out then just put the refabs back in few hundred dollars in the driveway its not that big a job


I can tell beyond any doubt that your giving advice that you've never used and your a French internet model. If you can do a set of heads on a late model GM small block for a couple hundred, you have a new very lucrative career. We start at 8 am
last time i swapped a head at the exchange it cost me 170 dollars x2 thats $340 plus a gasket set and a little time in the garage you could do it yourself.

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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2373703
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I'm just jealous you guys know how to do all these mechanical things. My Dad wouldn't/couldn't even pump his own gas.

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: MANGLER] #2373730
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Originally Posted By: MANGLER
Originally Posted By: AU7MM08
For all that's holy and sacred we need carbed pushrod V8s as good Lord intended.

If your truck ain't got a carbed pushrod V8 and mud tires as it should that will result in extra years in purgatory. Choose wisely my friends.


After working on those for years, good luck with that! Sure they are great on the weekends but the adults here are talking about daily drivers.


Yep, I'll take reliability of a modern engine anyday.
BTW, the engine we are talking about is a pushrod V8.


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: AU338MAG] #2373822
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Originally Posted By: AU338MAG
Originally Posted By: dnolen
I'm not a fan of jasper engines. They have went down hill. I've seen them tore down and have 3 different size pistons. Saw one where they put the wrong head bolts in. You ever seen a head get blown off? It's not pretty. I had the pics but lost them when I got a new phone.


Been going strong for 95K miles since I made the change. Doesn't burn any oil. Original engine was burning a quart every 1000 miles. Damned active fuel management system. All of the 07-09 GM 5.3 models end up in this situation. They fixed these issues starting with the 2010 models.


Wrong. The problem goes thru 2013. I rebuilt my 2012 at 110,000

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2373890
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Wes, I'm hopeful that your problem is my problem. Going to investigate more.


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: hoggin] #2373937
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[quote=hoggin]They do burn valves a good bit, I invested in a camera so I could pull the plugs and check that without pulling the heads, it's a cool little gadget. Takes a lot of guess work out of it

A real mechanic would run a compression test on each cylinder and find the average THEN check with your camera then pull the heads if needed. Besides the head gasket leakin on combustion side, might be an intake gasket leaking too but doubt it. You called that guy an internet french model cause that motor has no distributor. gun grin

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: Jakethesnake] #2373991
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Originally Posted By: Jakethesnake
[quote=hoggin]They do burn valves a good bit, I invested in a camera so I could pull the plugs and check that without pulling the heads, it's a cool little gadget. Takes a lot of guess work out of it

A real mechanic would run a compression test on each cylinder and find the average THEN check with your camera then pull the heads if needed. Besides the head gasket leakin on combustion side, might be an intake gasket leaking too but doubt it. You called that guy an internet french model cause that motor has no distributor. gun grin


A REAL mechanic would tell you he don't fix trucks over the internet that's the reason someone with the sense God gave a rock would realize I've not said what's wrong with it or what I'd do to fix it

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: bama7x57] #2374005
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Originally Posted By: bama7x57
Installing a Range Technology module will keep the AFM from activating.
We currently have 2 of these in use.

I put a Diablo in my 07 Tahoe last year to take care of the AFM and no more oil consumption

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: AU338MAG] #2374034
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Originally Posted By: AU338MAG
Originally Posted By: dnolen
I'm not a fan of jasper engines. They have went down hill. I've seen them tore down and have 3 different size pistons. Saw one where they put the wrong head bolts in. You ever seen a head get blown off? It's not pretty. I had the pics but lost them when I got a new phone.


Been going strong for 95K miles since I made the change. Doesn't burn any oil. Original engine was burning a quart every 1000 miles. Damned active fuel management system. All of the 07-09 GM 5.3 models end up in this situation. They fixed these issues starting with the 2010 models.


Did they fix it? I have heard of it in 11 and newer engines. I have heard of cutting the fuel management stuff off to prevent it but I have seen trucks older that 2010 claiming same problems. I am not a mechanic though.

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: Jakethesnake] #2374035
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Originally Posted By: Jakethesnake
[quote=hoggin]They do burn valves a good bit, I invested in a camera so I could pull the plugs and check that without pulling the heads, it's a cool little gadget. Takes a lot of guess work out of it

A real mechanic would run a compression test on each cylinder and find the average THEN check with your camera then pull the heads if needed. Besides the head gasket leakin on combustion side, might be an intake gasket leaking too but doubt it. You called that guy an internet french model cause that motor has no distributor. gun grin


Just for the record I would use the camera before a compression check, why guess after what I can see but long before that I would check for dirty oil, engine codes then do a data scan and a cylinder contribution test then look in the cylinder for signs of water, excessive oil, burnt valve, burnt piston or cylinder wall damage then a compression test incase a valve seat that I can't see it the issue.

That's kinda what a real mechanic would do there Jake, just in case your wondering.
Maybe that diagnostic tree will help in the future.

I don't know what's wrong with the truck I haven't laid hands on it or diagnosed it, most of what's been listed here could be the cause along with several other things that have not been mentioned.

Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: hoggin] #2374038
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Originally Posted By: hoggin

A REAL mechanic would tell you he don't fix trucks over the internet that's the reason someone with the sense God gave a rock would realize I've not said what's wrong with it or what I'd do to fix it

Come on now, you know we all can fly jet aircraft and rebuild the space shuttle.


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: Out back] #2374046
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I think there has been a lot of good advice on things to check no doubt.
I don't mind giving advice on how to do the testing or options afterward and will answer any direct question to the best of my ability, that's how I ruled out the distributor, but today's engine is a complicated electronic/mechanical computer and I am not the best at some of the late model diagnostics, but I do pay some guys that are close to the top if not on it.

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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2374051
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For your first quote of 5,285... My pops paid 2,950 for his to be done. That included new belt, plugs etc...


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: Lung_buster] #2374061
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Originally Posted By: Lung_buster
Originally Posted By: bama7x57
Installing a Range Technology module will keep the AFM from activating.
We currently have 2 of these in use.

I put a Diablo in my 07 Tahoe last year to take care of the AFM and no more oil consumption


Me too


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: hoggin] #2374069
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Originally Posted By: hoggin
I think there has been a lot of good advice on things to check no doubt.
I don't mind giving advice on how to do the testing or options afterward and will answer any direct question to the best of my ability, that's how I ruled out the distributor, but today's engine is a complicated electronic/mechanical computer and I am not the best at some of the late model diagnostics, but I do pay some guys that are close to the top if not on it.


Yup...I used to rebuild older Chevy and Fords with my eyes closed. Now, I sometimes open the hood and just stand there scratching my head. I am able to change my plugs and plug wires though...Oh yeah and the oil pressure switch "the book" says will take 3 hours labor to get to and replace and put back together, I did in 30 minutes grin


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: gundoc] #2374110
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I really think instead of goofing around and funnin each other about it we should all meet at straycats house about dark and see if he runs outta beverages and food before we get it fixed

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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2374132
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If we all show up, we could probably swap the whole engine as fast as a NASCAR pit crew!


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: AU7MM08] #2374149
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Originally Posted By: AU7MM08
For all that's holy and sacred we need carbed pushrod V8s as good Lord intended.

If your truck ain't got a carbed pushrod V8 and mud tires as it should that will result in extra years in purgatory. Choose wisely my friends.




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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2374365
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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: AU7MM08] #2374374
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Originally Posted By: AU7MM08
For all that's holy and sacred we need carbed pushrod V8s as good Lord intended.

If your truck ain't got a carbed pushrod V8 and mud tires as it should that will result in extra years in purgatory. Choose wisely my friends.


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: hoggin] #2374561
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Originally Posted By: hoggin
I really think instead of goofing around and funnin each other about it we should all meet at straycats house about dark and see if he runs outta beverages and food before we get it fixed


I'll have smoked pork and coolers (plural) of beer for whoever wants to help grin


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Re: Y'all school me on replacement of lifters on GMC 5.3L [Re: straycat] #2374701
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Originally Posted By: straycat

Originally Posted By: hoggin
I really think instead of goofing around and funnin each other about it we should all meet at straycats house about dark and see if he runs outta beverages and food before we get it fixed


I'll have smoked pork and coolers (plural) of beer for whoever wants to help grin


Lemme know when and where to be! grin


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