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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2333534
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Australia uses this same poison, and several states including Alabama have been using it in small test areas to test it's effectiveness and the effects on other wildlife. In some areas in Australia it has shown to be 85% effective in controlling hog populations. I think it's call Hog B gone or something similar to that over there.

Anyone who wants to look at the ingredients and order them from a supplier can. If you eat bacon, you are already "poisoning" yourself, as the main ingredient is the pink salt used as a preservative in a lot of our food. The sodium nitrite renders a hogs hemoglobin unable to tote and distribute oxygen throughout it's bloodstream.

Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2333543
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Technology today and oversight isn't going to allow dangerous "poisen" to be used.


Good. I'm all for killing the hogs, but just want to make sure an unsuspecting hunter won't get hurt. Lots of locals around where I hunt also take free hogs from hunters who don't want them.

Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2333612
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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2333616
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now mash again just some intresting facts i found


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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2333621
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The problem is nothing could be further from the truth that its safe. This is the age of less regulation. There is nothing to be trusted less then toxicity studies and secret trade secret blends. Remember they had a spill plan in place that was approved for the Artic to protect Artic wildlife that was approved for the Gulf Horizon. This is about profit and the test subjects are us...

Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2333625
12/16/17 11:55 AM
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Yep. You really are out there.


Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty
I'm the paterfamilias
Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2333630
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257 Im about as grounded as it gets.

Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2333641
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I dont think there is a lot of risk with the sodium nitrite moving through the food chain. Temik on the other hand is bad news. Both have been discussed in this thread, but only one is a significant threat.


"Cull" is just another four letter word...
Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2333643
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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2333649
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Yea man keep trying. All those were banned from use by mid 80's. So what's your point here?


Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2333658
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I dont think its conspiracy, i think they just want shed of pigs. I been readin about this stuff now for a little while and educating myself about sodium nitrite. Theyve been usin this stuff in austrailia for awhile now and 1080 and warfarin were the predecessors of sodium nitrite. It all came down to the most efficient and humane which is sodium nitrite. Warfarin could take up to a few days to a week or more for the animal to succumb. 1080 or sodium flouracetate took from 6-8 hours and now the new toxin takes 1-3 hour with an average kill time for a 70lb pig being 59min. Its the most efficient method, and thats why its being done. This may be as good an opportunity to take back our ag lands and broad scale wildlife habitat that gets decimated every year by feral pigs. Now if we could just figure somethin out for coyotes.


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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: CatHeadBiscuit] #2333686
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Originally Posted By: CatHeadBiscuit
Isnt there a poison that turned their insides blue?


Warfarin

Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2333778
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257 my expertise is identifying hazmats / chems that can be hazardous to human health and / or the environment. I am the guy who has cruised and authored the Environmental Site Assessments on 40 percent or more of all of the FOREVER WILD TRACTS prior to their purchase. Would be more but I stopped conducting studies due to health.

Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2333828
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Ok so that means what?


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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2335082
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You think it'll kill Privet? Lol.

Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2335213
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Exactly. If you've ever lost a field, a crop, or anything else damaged you'd be for this program. This isn't 1930. Technology today and oversight isn't going to allow dangerous "poisen" to be used.


People thought that in the roaring 30's too. I don't trust the theory

Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2335229
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Ok so that means what?


Might mean he knowed what he's talking about

Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2335272
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Read the labels on a lot of the processed meats. Many contain Sodium Nitrite and Sodium Nitrate. I know not at the levels used for swine poison. So I wonder if a poisoned processed hog would contain the same levels of Sodium Nitrite in its meat as would meat found in the stores?


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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2335407
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Ok so that means what?



Means he voted for Hillary


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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight [Re: 257wbymag] #2335421
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Word!


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