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Re: Food plots so far [Re: johndeere5036] #2320796
12/06/17 10:45 AM
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I put about 40 lbs of Nitrogen Sunday afternoon in a 40 yard radius in front of my stands on two fields. Hopefully that will bring them within bow range.
I had limed my fields last year and they have been looking good so far. Hopefully the deer will use them pretty heavy late season.

Re: Food plots so far [Re: muzziehead] #2320831
12/06/17 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted By: muzziehead
Our ph is between 7.4 and 7.6 on almost all our plots. I did a test one year 3 months after putting out our normal dosage and the ph had only dropped .10 for the plot tested.

I basically weighed the cost of a pallet of corn, roughly $340 compared to a pallet of AN at $420, and decided that we would benefit more from our food plots than we would from keeping 6-7 feeders full of corn for a month.


That's a high pH. Too high really. Too high can be as bad as too low. Are you in the Black Belt? A .10 in 3 months can be deceiving. Usually takes about 6 months on average with the right conditions to get the lime affect. In a drought condition it would take a lot longer. Different soil types cause time to vary also.

Re: Food plots so far [Re: johndeere5036] #2320849
12/06/17 11:18 AM
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Yes, we are in south Montgomery county. The plots on our north tract average about 7.5 as mentioned, but our lower tract which is more wet land and totally different type of soil average is less than 6.2. I try to keep our ph between 7.2 and 7.4 for what we plant. Our plots are always lush green and attract the deer. I know I would not want our plots to have a lower ph, just wish I could get the ones on the south end to come up a point or two.

We can grow just about anything from clover, soybeans or corn. We have about 400 acres that is farmed every year and it produces soybean, corn or cotton, whatever they plant.


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Re: Food plots so far [Re: johndeere5036] #2320868
12/06/17 11:31 AM
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Going on memory you are close on the pH for most foodplots plants. I remember as it being best a touch acidic at 6.8 - 7.0. If you are able to maintain that pH I would test a little alfalfa. Always heard good things about it but very pH sensitive..

Re: Food plots so far [Re: johndeere5036] #2321081
12/06/17 02:57 PM
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I may try that idea with the alfafa. We had discussed it before but figured that just the heat would destroy it. I would agree on optimum ph level is no lower than 6.8 but the ceiling is around 7.6. It amazes me at the difference just in soil make up and our tracts aren't a mile apart. I suppose there is lot of silt over the years that has been deposited as a result of the small creek that runs through south tract. But the soil is sandy loam compared to clay, basically praire soil.


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Re: Food plots so far [Re: muzziehead] #2321248
12/06/17 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: muzziehead




Good looking fields and that last pic looks like a jam up spot

Re: Food plots so far [Re: johndeere5036] #2321269
12/06/17 05:10 PM
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Looks like woody Bartlett Property are you in pike road

Re: Food plots so far [Re: johndeere5036] #2321304
12/06/17 05:28 PM
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I wish it was Bartletts property. I am close to him but this is not his place.


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Re: Food plots so far [Re: johndeere5036] #2321334
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I put down 150lbs of urea to the acre. Yes I'll get a big boost. I would not do that to our row crop wheat right now but for plots who cares.

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Re: Food plots so far [Re: johndeere5036] #2321492
12/07/17 03:22 AM
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Our fields look like hot garbage. Between the browsing pressure and Johnson grass, our fields are terrible.

I let my buddy talk me into getting a co-op buggy mixed with wheat, oats, and fertilizer to plant.

We sprayed in the summer and then broke up the soil about a month later.

Spread seed and fertilizer and used a drag to cover the seeds. We had that massive rain shortly thereafter. Half of the seed didn't come up and we top sewed wheat and more fertilizer. Still looks terrible..

Last year we planted WMS deer magnet and Coker oats and had a good stand in our fields. Deer hammered them hard. This year, you can hardly see a deer in a plot..

Debating on when to put out some nitrogen on our fields. I will probably do it within the next few weeks..

Re: Food plots so far [Re: johndeere5036] #2321754
12/07/17 06:23 AM
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Our fields are sprayed in late August, and then we start turning dirt the last week of September or the first week of October. We disk them all and then follow with a tiller, makes for a nice seed bed.

Planted WMS Mississippi and Alabama Blend, with Buck Forage Oats and WMS Brassica blend. Not each field received all of the above. The plot either got the MS or ALA blend but each one did get BFO and Brassica with 13-13-13 at a rate of 300lbs per acre.

We were fortunate again this year with the rainfall, but we do have the advantage of being very flexible and we only plant ahead of expected rain.

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Re: Food plots so far [Re: muzziehead] #2321819
12/07/17 06:50 AM
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I have a similar property in south Montgomery co. It's long and narrow, about 1 1/2 miles from north to south. Starting south, it goes from sandy to sandy loam to clay loam to clay to black prairie soil to that old yellowish prairie alkaline clay that will only grow cedar or bodock. It all will grow a pretty greenfield and the ph goes from 5.5 to 7+ south to north. Requires ton/acre lime in the south to none in the north. Most of the place is in a creek bottom and grows some of the prettiest food plots youve ever seen

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