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Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce #2295200
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I have pulled the entire court file for Beverly Nelson's (Harris) divorce.

It is true that Moore presided over the divorce. But, that isn't really an accurate description of what happened.

She filed for divorce on 5-25-1999. Her lawyer then filed a Motion to Continue because they were going to counseling. He then filed a Motion to Dismiss because they got back together. Judge Moore's JA signed his name to the Order dismissing the case on July 1, 1999. They never appeared in court and 99% she would never have even known who the judge was on the case before it was dismissed.

Here is an interesting tidbit. This case is so old that it predates the electronic records, so the file had to at some point be scanned into the computer. When that happens, you can't just jump on the computer and print out all the documents, you have to make a request to the court and pay for them. Someone on March 13, 2017 ask the court to prepare a copy of the court file.

That is really the only reason I can see the documents. No action in the case from 1999 to 2017 and all the sudden a request for the file.

Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: doekiller] #2295203
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Originally Posted By: doekiller
I have pulled the entire court file for Beverly Nelson's (Harris) divorce.

It is true that Moore presided over the divorce. But, that isn't really an accurate description of what happened.

She filed for divorce on 5-25-1999. Her lawyer then filed a Motion to Continue because they were going to counseling. He then filed a Motion to Dismiss because they got back together. Judge Moore's JA signed his name to the Order dismissing the case on July 1, 1999. They never appeared in court and 99% she would never have even known who the judge was on the case before it was dismissed.

Here is an interesting tidbit. This case is so old that it predates the electronic records, so the file had to at some point be scanned into the computer. When that happens, you can't just jump on the computer and print out all the documents, you have to make a request to the court and pay for them. Someone on March 13, 2017 ask the court to prepare a copy of the court file.

That is really the only reason I can see the documents. No action in the case from 1999 to 2017 and all the sudden a request for the file.


Hmm...good job Scott. March of this year? The plot thickens!

Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: doekiller] #2295238
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Send that info to Hannity
Would the name of the requestor be public information

Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: doekiller] #2295246
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If requested in March, how long does it take to get the records?


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Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: wew3006] #2295258
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Originally Posted By: wew3006
Send that info to Hannity
Would the name of the requestor be public information


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Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: doekiller] #2295273
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Now go find us the records on where the libs are saying he was banned from the Gadsden mall. I’m still not buying into this lady’s story. She made my BS meter go off when she said he was wearing hush puppy shoes. Hell I can’t remember what shoes I wore last week

Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: wew3006] #2295278
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Originally Posted By: wew3006
Send that info to Hannity
Would the name of the requestor be public information


It might be. But, it isn't on line. Who ever ask for it had to pay the clerk's office for it. But, they could have paid in cash. If so, I don't know if there would be a record.

Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: doekiller] #2295330
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Originally Posted By: doekiller


They never appeared in court and 99% she would never have even known who the judge was on the case before it was dismissed.


First, good report.
Appreciate the effort. thumbup

Second, I am sure she would have known who the judge was on her divorce case. It is her hometown, it is not a big city, there were probably only two or three circuit judges for that county back then and she would have certainly known that Roy Moore was one of them.

So I would say the odds are 99% that she did know that Moore was the judge on her case. And if what she claimed in NYC was true then she would have told her divorce lawyer about it and told him to therefore make sure Moore was not the judge on her case.


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Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: doekiller] #2295332
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Very interesting, thanks for the effort and sharing.

Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: WmHunter] #2295370
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Originally Posted By: WmHunter
Originally Posted By: doekiller


They never appeared in court and 99% she would never have even known who the judge was on the case before it was dismissed.


First, good report.
Appreciate the effort. thumbup

Second, I am sure she would have known who the judge was on her divorce case. It is her hometown, it is not a big city, there were probably only two or three circuit judges for that county back then and she would have certainly known that Roy Moore was one of them.

So I would say the odds are 99% that she did know that Moore was the judge on her case. And if what she claimed in NYC was true then she would have told her divorce lawyer about it and told him to therefore make sure Moore was not the judge on her case.


I agree a normal person would have told the lawyer about it so they could make sure Moore wasn't the judge. But, I can tell you that most of my client's couldn't tell you who the judge in their case until they have appeared in front of them.

Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: doekiller] #2295371
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I will say this. With the copies being requested in March, if I was a betting man, I would put this on "The Senate Leadership Pact" more than Doug Jones. There is no way the Dems were thinking they would be facing Moore in the election at that point. It has McConnell and his bunch.

Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: doekiller] #2295375
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Originally Posted By: doekiller
I will say this. With the copies being requested in March, if I was a betting man, I would put this on "The Senate Leadership Pact" more than Doug Jones. There is no way the Dems were thinking they would be facing Moore in the election at that point. It has McConnell and his bunch.
Yep, I totally agree. the Butthurt is strong with McConnell after the 8million dollar loss to RM


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Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: doekiller] #2295413
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Originally Posted By: doekiller
I will say this. With the copies being requested in March, if I was a betting man, I would put this on "The Senate Leadership Pact" more than Doug Jones. There is no way the Dems were thinking they would be facing Moore in the election at that point. It has McConnell and his bunch.
Yep. Anyone that does not think that establishment Repubs are working hand in hand with Democraps to keep their private little criminal enterprise club intact is completely blind. Unless you are a politician like them and have been in Washington long enough for them to have dirt on you too, then you are not welcome in the club. The swamp is full of animals, dems and repubs alike that need to be removed from the cesspool and sent straight to jail.

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Originally Posted By: doekiller
I will say this. With the copies being requested in March, if I was a betting man, I would put this on "The Senate Leadership Pact" more than Doug Jones. There is no way the Dems were thinking they would be facing Moore in the election at that point. It has McConnell and his bunch.


Nailed it for sure there Scott. That Mc Connell is a HUGE part of the swamp.

Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: abolt300] #2295429
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Originally Posted By: doekiller
I will say this. With the copies being requested in March, if I was a betting man, I would put this on "The Senate Leadership Pact" more than Doug Jones. There is no way the Dems were thinking they would be facing Moore in the election at that point. It has McConnell and his bunch.
Yep. Anyone that does not think that establishment Repubs are working hand in hand with Democraps to keep their private little criminal enterprise club intact is completely blind. Unless you are a politician like them and have been in Washington long enough for them to have dirt on you too, then you are not welcome in the club. The swamp is full of animals, dems and repubs alike that need to be removed from the cesspool and sent straight to jail.


This^^^


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Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: doekiller] #2295490
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I blame this whole ordeal on the Bentley and Strange. It was their shady swamp politics dealings that resulted in a piece of crap like Strange being the incumbent on the primary ticket. From there, Alabama voters were forced to choose between the flotsam and jetsam of Strange and Moore. Many voters correctly deduced that Strange was a swamp critter not really worth voting for, which left Moore somehow rising to the top.

It pisses me off that we as a society can't find a normal human being to put forth as a conservative candidate. I know it's not how politics work, but dang. I think we all personally know good men with decent leadership skills that would be light years ahead of these corrupt clowns that have us at each others throats. Evidently to make your way up to a point where you are a viable candidate for office you have to be so well connected, and owe so many people so many favors, that it filters out everyone except those devoid of character. Anyway, rant off.

EDIT: I forgot about Mo Brooks being a candidate. But in my book that guy's just weird. I can't put my finger on it but there's something off about him. I guess other voters thought so too.

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Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: doekiller] #2295707
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One of the victims has already been identified as a liar by her own family. The Yearbook signature has been refuted by credible handwriting analysis. WaPo is under investigation for buying "victim statements." Gloria Allred (her involvement alone is enough for anyone with a brain to know it is a fraud) is connecting the yearbook, an old sketch and an overweight middle age woman, offered as "proof."

The yearbook is "signed" and dated December 1977 (who signs a yearbook published in May, in December?), by a Roy Moore, DA (he was very proud of the fact he was the county's first paid, full time DDA Deputy District Attorney, he was never the DA) The diner's name is misspelled. There are at least two distinctly different handwriting styles.

The woman's story contains internal contradictions, she "tried to get out of the car, "but he reached across" her (after she tried to get out) to lock the door. (Gloria messed up when she wrote that tidbit) Credibility fades when the woman claims 30 year old Roy Moore, "drove around behind" the diner when, in 1977, there was no parking area behind diner.

Liberal media asserts that Roy Moore was known to do this kind of thing and proves it with interviews containing second hand statements from people they place in the Gadsden Mall parking lot.

Yet during over 40 years in public life, 6 election campaigns, 10 years of WaPo and the NYT searching for a history that could "destroy" Judge Roy More (their own editorials make that claim), no one ever mentioned this "well known" pedophilia? The guy who became Chief Justice of the State Supreme Court chased underage girls for years, "everyone knew" and no opponent every used it against Moore? Through two different campaigns for the State Chief Justice position, highlighted by national interest from opponents nationwide, no one thought to mention what everyone knew?

Whether Mitch McConnell is working with WaPo, or the DNC is repeating this previously used "Herman Cain destroying" tactic, is a question I cannot answer. What I can see - clearly - is an attack using lies, misinformation, and a biased media to try and remove a candidate for the office of US Senator from Alabama.

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Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: M48scout] #2295714
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Originally Posted By: M48scout
I blame this whole ordeal on the Bentley and Strange. It was their shady swamp politics dealings that resulted in a piece of crap like Strange being the incumbent on the primary ticket. From there, Alabama voters were forced to choose between the flotsam and jetsam of Strange and Moore. Many voters correctly deduced that Strange was a swamp critter not really worth voting for, which left Moore somehow rising to the top.

It pisses me off that we as a society can't find a normal human being to put forth as a conservative candidate. I know it's not how politics work, but dang. I think we all personally know good men with decent leadership skills that would be light years ahead of these corrupt clowns that have us at each others throats. Evidently to make your way up to a point where you are a viable candidate for office you have to be so well connected, and owe so many people so many favors, that it filters out everyone except those devoid of character. Anyway, rant off.

EDIT: I forgot about Mo Brooks being a candidate. But in my book that guy's just weird. I can't put my finger on it but there's something off about him. I guess other voters thought so too.


Agree 100% except I don't know enough about Mo to have an opinion. Strange probably could have cakewalked into the office if he hadn't shown his true colors too early with the shady dealings with Bentley.


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Re: Roy Moore, Year Book and Divorce [Re: Groundhawg] #2295808
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Originally Posted By: Groundhawg
One of the victims has already been identified as a liar by her own family. The Yearbook signature has been refuted by credible handwriting analysis. WaPo is under investigation for buying "victim statements." Gloria Allred (her involvement alone is enough for anyone with a brain to know it is a fraud) is connecting the yearbook, an old sketch and an overweight middle age woman, offered as "proof."

The yearbook is "signed" and dated December 1977 (who signs a yearbook published in May, in December?), by a Joe Moore, DA (he was very proud of the fact he was the county's first paid, full time DDA Deputy District Attorney, he was never the DA) The diner's name is misspelled. There are at least two distinctly different handwriting styles.

The woman's story contains internal contradictions, she "tried to get out of the car, "but he reached across" her (after she tried to get out) to lock the door. (Gloria messed up when she wrote that tidbit) Credibility fades when the woman claims 30 year old Roy Moore, "drove around behind" the diner when, in 1977, there was no parking area behind diner.

Liberal media asserts that Roy Moore was known to do this kind of thing and proves it with interviews containing second hand statements from people they place in the Gadsden Mall parking lot.

Yet during over 40 years in public life, 6 election campaigns, 10 years of WaPo and the NYT searching for a history that could "destroy" Judge Roy More (their own editorials make that claim), no one ever mentioned this "well known" pedophilia? The guy who became Chief Justice of the State Supreme Court chased underage girls for years, "everyone knew" and no opponent every used it against Moore? Through two different campaigns for the State Chief Justice position, highlighted by national interest from opponents nationwide, no one thought to mention what everyone knew?

Whether Mitch McConnell is working with WaPo, or the DNC is repeating this previously used "Herman Cain destroying" tactic, is a question I cannot answer. What I can see - clearly - is an attack using lies, misinformation, and a biased media to try and remove a candidate for the office of US Senator from Alabama.


Who the hell is Joe Moore?

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