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Keith Holcombe #2290673
11/13/17 02:33 AM
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I watched the game again and he was the weakest link on defense by far. If that's all they can field at ILB were in trouble.I might be practicing BO at ILB the next two weeks.


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Re: Keith Holcombe [Re: ridgestalker] #2290685
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I agree with you assessment of Holcombe. His effort on the QB run at the goal line was terrible. He was in position to make a play but bit on a stutter step. Losing SDH was a blow but also losing his back-up in Mack Wilson really put Bama behind the eight ball. Rashan Evans plays with such a high motor he needs some plays off to be most effective late in the game. Dylan Moses has great skills but seemed timid when he was in there. The DL got whipped most of the night which made it more difficult for the linebackers to make plays.

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Originally Posted By: bamafan1966
I agree with you assessment of Holcombe. His effort on the QB run at the goal line was terrible. He was in position to make a play but bit on a stutter step. Losing SDH was a blow but also losing his back-up in Mack Wilson really put Bama behind the eight ball. Rashan Evans plays with such a high motor he needs some plays off to be most effective late in the game. Dylan Moses has great skills but seemed timid when he was in there. The DL got whipped most of the night which made it more difficult for the linebackers to make plays.



While I think you are correct in Holcombe, the real issue it the DL getting their butts kicked. Holcombe has actually played good this year, I remember no game where the DL got mowed over amplifying the problem at LB. I guess we’ll see if AU can duplicate the MS game plan.


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Re: Keith Holcombe [Re: pcamper] #2290730
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I agree the DL got it handed to them. Their job is to tie up the OL and allow linebackers to be clean to make tackles. I am not down on Holcombe and he has played well in limited action this year. He is just on a bigger stage on and there is a reason he was a back-up.

Re: Keith Holcombe [Re: pcamper] #2290836
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Originally Posted By: pcamper

Originally Posted By: bamafan1966
I agree with you assessment of Holcombe. His effort on the QB run at the goal line was terrible. He was in position to make a play but bit on a stutter step. Losing SDH was a blow but also losing his back-up in Mack Wilson really put Bama behind the eight ball. Rashan Evans plays with such a high motor he needs some plays off to be most effective late in the game. Dylan Moses has great skills but seemed timid when he was in there. The DL got whipped most of the night which made it more difficult for the linebackers to make plays.


I agree, our DL got man handled the whole game and the OL didn't do much better....


While I think you are correct in Holcombe, the real issue it the DL getting their butts kicked. Holcombe has actually played good this year, I remember no game where the DL got mowed over amplifying the problem at LB. I guess we’ll see if AU can duplicate the MS game plan.



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Re: Keith Holcombe [Re: ridgestalker] #2290878
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While the DL didn't play their best game, Holcombe is not a SEC middle linebacker. He doesn't get off blocks and doesn't fit or attack down hill. Bama really needs 18 to step up or Mac Wilson to heal up!


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Re: Keith Holcombe [Re: gman] #2290886
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Originally Posted By: gman
Holcombe is not a SEC middle linebacker


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Re: Keith Holcombe [Re: ridgestalker] #2290893
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Our defensive line got whooped worse than I've seen under any Saban team that I can remember. We used to get beat deep a lot with DB's being in one-on-one coverage, but that wasn't the case on Saturday. They just straight up got whooped on the d-line


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Re: Keith Holcombe [Re: ridgestalker] #2290897
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Maybe they need to turn his insulin pump up during the game. He looked like he was almost in a diabetic coma out there.


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Re: Keith Holcombe [Re: ridgestalker] #2290926
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MSU ran right at him almost every time. He looks like he's in slow motion and just waiting around for someone else to make the play.I'm not bashing him on a personal level but somebody has got to step up and take his place. They got alot tougher running attacks to stop in the future.

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Re: Keith Holcombe [Re: ridgestalker] #2290995
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Hootie Jones and Tony Brown ain't made a tackle yet.

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Originally Posted By: bmc77
Hootie Jones and Tony Brown ain't made a tackle yet.
Does getting trucked count? laugh


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Re: Keith Holcombe [Re: bmc77] #2291208
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Originally Posted By: bmc77
Hootie Jones and Tony Brown ain't made a tackle yet.


Hootie did not even try to tackle Fitzgerald on the goal line. It was pitiful.

Re: Keith Holcombe [Re: ridgestalker] #2291225
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Holcomb is the worst linebacker I’ve ever seen under Nick Saban.... and possibly the worst I’ve seen at Alabama.


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Originally Posted By: bigcountry692001
Holcomb is the worst linebacker I’ve ever seen under Nick Saban.... and possibly the worst I’ve seen at Alabama.


I wouldn't go that far, it was a bad game.I've saw him make plays in other games.He's played a lot of ball at Bama.

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Originally Posted By: bmc77
Originally Posted By: bigcountry692001
Holcomb is the worst linebacker I’ve ever seen under Nick Saban.... and possibly the worst I’ve seen at Alabama.


I wouldn't go that far, it was a bad game.I've saw him make plays in other games.He's played a lot of ball at Bama.
He has in spots and not as a middle linebacker. I was really surprised at his signing with ua after we played them his senior year at hillcrest.


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Re: Keith Holcombe [Re: ridgestalker] #2291386
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Bama fans are clearly racist.

Re: Keith Holcombe [Re: ridgestalker] #2291431
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Bama held Ms State to 3.5 yards per rush and 6.6 yards per pass

Bama had 5.3 yards per rush and 12.7 yards per pass and Bama won by 7 points, next.

Keith plays as well as he can and that is all you can ask for, I sort of think he had a problem with his insulin pump or something. Losing the majority of your starting linebackers puts a kink in any defense.

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Agreed. All I'm saying is that "I" expected more out of a junior that's been on the field as much as he has. If he has a health issue (I've read about his diabetes), then that should be managed differently altogether. He has played well in spots...middle linebacker (every down), he hasn't.


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Re: Keith Holcombe [Re: ridgestalker] #2291470
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His daddy was a hellofva football player at Bama. I’m sure between him and the coaches he’ll get it worked out. BTW I did see him loafing on a play against LSU and was surprised by that.


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