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Re: shot placement [Re: canvasback] #2290515
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Re: shot placement [Re: canvasback] #2290542
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The ideal high shoulder shot is an inch or so below the spine. It penetrates the lungs and shocks or damages the spine. The deer looses consciousness from the shock and the deer dies from bleeding out. 1-2 above the spine and the deer will drop unconscious, but instead of bleeding out it will regain consciousness about the time you open the shooting house door.
I dont know why everyone is so determined to avoid the 50yd tracking job. Magnum calibers and fancy shot placement is often counter productive.

Re: shot placement [Re: canvasback] #2290582
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I told my hunters to shoot upper center of the shoulder....tho it rarely turned out that way. More like hmmmm i forgot what mr guide person said ill just aim at the middle of the body=paunch= me trompin through a thicket with a 357 tryin not to get bit in the face by a diamondback. Then ther was that one guy who shot evethang in the head... I liked that guy.


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Re: shot placement [Re: Hornhntr] #2290593
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Originally Posted By: Hornhntr


I aim at the "X." For the last 40 years I haven't lost too many with that spot. Those that I missed or didn't find, I obviously didn't hit where I wanted.

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Re: shot placement [Re: Hornhntr] #2290746
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Originally Posted By: Hornhntr


My aim point would be the bottom of the "U" in LUNGS. That's my high shoulder.

Re: shot placement [Re: canvasback] #2290761
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Theres actually been a study done on this that I read one time. Seems like it was a magazine article. It compiled a bunch of info from several hundred shots to see where was the highest percentage spot to hit that would drop the deer in its tracks. They concluded that there is a spot high on the shoulder that is DRT nearly every time. Seems like they said there was a major nerve that ran through that area or something. The problem with that shot in my mind though is that youre really flirting with a back whack shot if youre shot is off a little. I prefer to aim right behind the shoulder with a gun so that I have some margin for error.



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Re: shot placement [Re: CNC] #2290795
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Originally Posted By: CNC
Theres actually been a study done on this that I read one time. Seems like it was a magazine article. It compiled a bunch of info from several hundred shots to see where was the highest percentage spot to hit that would drop the deer in its tracks. They concluded that there is a spot high on the shoulder that is DRT nearly every time. Seems like they said there was a major nerve that ran through that area or something. The problem with that shot in my mind though is that youre really flirting with a back whack shot if youre shot is off a little. I prefer to aim right behind the shoulder with a gun so that I have some margin for error.
Right behind the shoulder is definitely the easiest and nearly most guaranteed kill shot. It always seems to me like the worst shots go for the hardest shot.





Re: shot placement [Re: CNC] #2291035
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Originally Posted By: CNC
Theres actually been a study done on this that I read one time. Seems like it was a magazine article. It compiled a bunch of info from several hundred shots to see where was the highest percentage spot to hit that would drop the deer in its tracks. They concluded that there is a spot high on the shoulder that is DRT nearly every time. Seems like they said there was a major nerve that ran through that area or something. The problem with that shot in my mind though is that youre really flirting with a back whack shot if youre shot is off a little. I prefer to aim right behind the shoulder with a gun so that I have some margin for error.







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Re: shot placement [Re: rulebreaker] #2291052
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Originally Posted By: rulebreaker
Originally Posted By: CNC
Theres actually been a study done on this that I read one time. Seems like it was a magazine article. It compiled a bunch of info from several hundred shots to see where was the highest percentage spot to hit that would drop the deer in its tracks. They concluded that there is a spot high on the shoulder that is DRT nearly every time. Seems like they said there was a major nerve that ran through that area or something. The problem with that shot in my mind though is that youre really flirting with a back whack shot if youre shot is off a little. I prefer to aim right behind the shoulder with a gun so that I have some margin for error.







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Re: shot placement [Re: canvasback] #2291054
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E7 for my money.

Re: shot placement [Re: mcninja] #2291071
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Re: shot placement [Re: deadeye48] #2291081
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Originally Posted By: deadeye48
High shoulder shot. It breaks both shoulders, destroys the lungs and shocks the spinal system, DOTS


yup


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Re: shot placement [Re: 257wbymag] #2291122
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Here's my daughters shot from this pm. I wish she'd hit everyone e the rest of her life right here. 145 gr Barnes lrx 7-08. I can't explain it any clearer than this is placement you want.


I would say 80% of the deer I check in are shot here. There is the occasional neck or head shot, some of those done on purpose and some not so much.

Good shot and congrats by the way!


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Re: shot placement [Re: bigcountry692001] #2291196
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Originally Posted By: bigcountry692001
Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Here's my daughters shot from this pm. I wish she'd hit everyone e the rest of her life right here. 145 gr Barnes lrx 7-08. I can't explain it any clearer than this is placement you want.


I would say 80% of the deer I check in are shot here. There is the occasional neck or head shot, some of those done on purpose and some not so much.

Good shot and congrats by the way!


That shot looks D-7 per the chart or real close to it. Straight up the back of the leg, bout 1/2 way up the body, very high percentage with room for error. $$$$$



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Re: shot placement [Re: canvasback] #2291257
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Heres a deer skeleton for reference. The DRT spot that the article I mentioned was talking about is that plate on the upper part of the leg. If you hit them in that plate then it was like 95% DRT. Thats a risky shot though with little margin for error if you hit a little high. That plate is also what Im assuming is stopping these bow shots in the shoulder.



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Re: shot placement [Re: canvasback] #2291267
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The "plate" is a scapula.


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Re: shot placement [Re: canvasback] #2291275
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c6 for me, DRT. have hit higher a time or 2 and it still drops them. Requires second shot. Last year i shot it with pistol to finish it off. If the deer drops its head right before you shoot it'll be high but the deer will still drop.


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Re: shot placement [Re: canvasback] #2291286
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also gotta remember with them charts. The bullet is usually a downward angle. so exit and entrance wound is not the same.


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Re: shot placement [Re: goodman_hunter] #2291332
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Originally Posted By: goodman_hunter
also gotta remember with them charts. The bullet is usually a downward angle. so exit and entrance wound is not the same.


Good point.

I had the privilege of hunting with an old man about 3 years ago for a season on his land. He killed a few doe and a buck, all neck shots. Of course he stated, "They don't run on a well placed neck shot." I tried that technique and its proven correct so far. So put me down for C4. Only time I wont shoot in neck is if its a long shot and don't get a lot of those in hardwoods & pines.


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Re: shot placement [Re: canvasback] #2291423
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Double lung. It leaves room for error and still delivers a fatal shot. My son was aiming just behind the shoulder this past Sunday and ended up shooting several inches so the bucked dropped in his tracks. It he had been aiming for a high shoulder shot and shot high by the same amount he would have likely missed or maybe wounded his first deer.

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