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Re: Anyone reload the .270 Win
[Re: Razorsharp123]
#2286789
11/09/17 07:24 AM
11/09/17 07:24 AM
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jacannon
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I would pick up a few books on reloading and read them thoroughly,so you have a basic understanding of reloading. Metallic cartridge handloading is a good one.
Grandma said...Always keep a gun close at hand, you just never know when you might run across some varmint that needs killing...
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Re: Anyone reload the .270 Win
[Re: Razorsharp123]
#2286960
11/09/17 10:23 AM
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North AL
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Classic 270 load - 59 grains of H4831 and 130 grain bullet of your choice.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Anyone reload the .270 Win
[Re: Razorsharp123]
#2287020
11/09/17 11:27 AM
11/09/17 11:27 AM
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Cleburne Al/Ga line
furnfeather
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I'd get the books and read up. Someone elses handloads might work or might not for you as each rifle is totally different. Prime example i can load a certain distance off the lands on one rifle and get terrible accuracy then can load the same charge,etc except a hair over factory COAL and can get .50"groups. I'd personally not shoot someones reloads as they're probably tailored to that one specific gun. Now shooting factory ammo is a different story due to if something went wrong I've got ground to stand on if needed. Take the time and read up and not just 1 book. I think I've got 7 different manuals i go tov and everyone is different on chatge rates and info. Take your time,read& read some more and ask questions then start dabbling in it. It's an addictive hobby. And it's not cheaper than buying factory ammo as you'll shoot more and experiment more. Just my opiniom and good luck. By the way if you start you don't have to go out and spend a fortune on all progressive,etc equipment. Yes it's quick and efficient but i prefer single stage presses and a turret. Reloading is like cutting grass/washing a car each person has their own paticular way. Also 145gr eld-x/imr4350 is a keeper when you get the right load worked up. Can't wait to try it at 600 on the cmp range
Last edited by furnfeather; 11/09/17 11:33 AM.
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Re: Anyone reload the .270 Win
[Re: Razorsharp123]
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11/10/17 01:47 PM
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behind my Dillon
dave260rem!
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Reloading manuals are better than the Internet.Not to brag but i've rolled my own for 35 years and no major issues (God looks after handloaders cause i started at 13 years of age) Your .270 is the best of the '06 offspring and H4831 and 150gr Partitions make things fall down quickly. W760 4350 H&Imr RL19 Viht slowburners make Jack O'Connors caliber shine.
Only hits count.
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Re: Anyone reload the .270 Win
[Re: Razorsharp123]
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11/13/17 08:44 AM
11/13/17 08:44 AM
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Conyers, GA and Auburn, AL
Razorsharp123
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Hi guys, thanks for all of the info and suggestions!!
I am going to pick up a book or two and start reading before jumping in.
Still interested in finding someone in SE/East Central AL that may be willing to let me watch/learn.
Odocoileus, I want to play around with:
150 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips
110, 130, 140, 150 gr Nosler Accubonds
160 gr Nosler Partitions
110, 130 gr Barnes TTSX
150 gr Berger VLDs
as well as the Hornady Interbond
I know some of these are factory loaded and some aren't.
R_H_Clark, my testing would involve shooting a deer and taking a look at the results. Real fancy and scientific I know (sarcasm of course).
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Re: Anyone reload the .270 Win
[Re: Razorsharp123]
#2291165
11/13/17 09:07 AM
11/13/17 09:07 AM
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,047
North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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North AL
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Add the 130 grain Partition to your list. 3100 fps is bad medicine on deer.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Anyone reload the .270 Win
[Re: Razorsharp123]
#2291269
11/13/17 10:37 AM
11/13/17 10:37 AM
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NW Alabama
R_H_Clark
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Hi guys, thanks for all of the info and suggestions!!
I am going to pick up a book or two and start reading before jumping in.
Still interested in finding someone in SE/East Central AL that may be willing to let me watch/learn.
Odocoileus, I want to play around with:
150 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips
110, 130, 140, 150 gr Nosler Accubonds
160 gr Nosler Partitions
110, 130 gr Barnes TTSX
150 gr Berger VLDs
as well as the Hornady Interbond
I know some of these are factory loaded and some aren't.
R_H_Clark, my testing would involve shooting a deer and taking a look at the results. Real fancy and scientific I know (sarcasm of course). The only problem I see for you in your testing is the variances in velocity of max loads VS less than max. What is max for my gun may be over max or under max for your gun. You really need to work up slowly a half grain at a time to a max load watching pressure signs and velocity. To do that would require a lot of shooting and loading. About the best and safest you could do would be to test some loads just shy of book max with different bullets. Even so,I think you are trying to reinvent the wheel. I would just pick a bullet for what I wanted to do and shoot it. What do you want a bullet to do? One that will loose part of its weight as shrapnel will kill great on close range broad side lung shots,and you will get large exit holes via shrapnel exiting. The same bullet won't penetrate as much if you need more penetration on a quarting shot. If you want a bullet that will stay together and give max penetration go with a solid copper mushrooming like the Barnes TTSX. If you want one that stays together but mushrooms more violently,go with an Accubond. If you want one that part of it violently mushrooms and shrapnels but part of it stays together go with a Partition.
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Re: Anyone reload the .270 Win
[Re: Razorsharp123]
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11/13/17 11:16 AM
11/13/17 11:16 AM
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Conyers, GA and Auburn, AL
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Hi R_H, great points here and I appreciate your input.
Your comment about loading just short of max is what I would like to make happen.
Also, what do I want the bullet to do is a great question with an obviously simple answer. I want it to kill the deer/hog/yote/critter I'm shooting at! I know it's not as simple as that, and you've pointed that out by giving a brief rundown of certain bullet types.
I realize now looking over that list of bullets I would like to try that there are some could-be-considered outliers with the 150 grain NBT and Berger. The rest of the bullets mentioned are stoutly constructed. I do know that I want a bullet that punches at the top of its weight class so to speak, and that's why the Berger and NBT listed are their heavy-for-caliber offerings.
So maybe I need to step back and explain my motivation here. I am fairly new to hunting, but I find bullet technology fascinating. I am familiar with bullet technologies in an abstract sense, and I am undertaking this task with a hope of becoming more familiar in a practical sense - seeing the effects first hand on game. This isn't an attempt for me to reinvent the wheel; maybe it could be said I'm trying to figure out the wheel for myself. I've looked at plenty of carnage pictures, read tons about the bullets mentioned (and others), and seen plenty of first hand reports about field performance but I like to learn things for myself sometimes too!
Sure, I could just pick a bullet and shoot it, and probably every factory load will work under good/most/all circumstances. I've already done part of this as I have 100+ rounds of various factory ammo left from the 200 I purchased when figuring out what the gun likes, and I'm not going to run out of ammo any time soon.
But therein lies the rub though, many of the bullets I mentioned previously are either unavailable in factory loadings, hard to find, or insanely priced.
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Re: Anyone reload the .270 Win
[Re: Razorsharp123]
#2291406
11/13/17 12:08 PM
11/13/17 12:08 PM
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Posts: 18,047
North AL
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Old Mossy Horns
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Hi R_H, great points here and I appreciate your input.
Your comment about loading just short of max is what I would like to make happen.
Also, what do I want the bullet to do is a great question with an obviously simple answer. I want it to kill the deer/hog/yote/critter I'm shooting at! I know it's not as simple as that, and you've pointed that out by giving a brief rundown of certain bullet types.
I realize now looking over that list of bullets I would like to try that there are some could-be-considered outliers with the 150 grain NBT and Berger. The rest of the bullets mentioned are stoutly constructed. I do know that I want a bullet that punches at the top of its weight class so to speak, and that's why the Berger and NBT listed are their heavy-for-caliber offerings.
So maybe I need to step back and explain my motivation here. I am fairly new to hunting, but I find bullet technology fascinating. I am familiar with bullet technologies in an abstract sense, and I am undertaking this task with a hope of becoming more familiar in a practical sense - seeing the effects first hand on game. This isn't an attempt for me to reinvent the wheel; maybe it could be said I'm trying to figure out the wheel for myself. I've looked at plenty of carnage pictures, read tons about the bullets mentioned (and others), and seen plenty of first hand reports about field performance but I like to learn things for myself sometimes too!
Sure, I could just pick a bullet and shoot it, and probably every factory load will work under good/most/all circumstances. I've already done part of this as I have 100+ rounds of various factory ammo left from the 200 I purchased when figuring out what the gun likes, and I'm not going to run out of ammo any time soon.
But therein lies the rub though, many of the bullets I mentioned previously are either unavailable in factory loadings, hard to find, or insanely priced.
The following quote is attributed to Texas custom gun maker Charlie Sisk - "Shut up, load a Partition, go kill something"
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Anyone reload the .270 Win
[Re: Razorsharp123]
#2291627
11/13/17 02:24 PM
11/13/17 02:24 PM
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Posts: 662
Conyers, GA and Auburn, AL
Razorsharp123
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Conyers, GA and Auburn, AL
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Thanks for the comments guys.
I'm oscillating between thinking its best if I jump in head first to reloading, and thinking its best if I spend a couple hundred more on the remaining bullets I'd like to try that are available in factory loadings. Truth is with one rifle and one shooter if never come out ahead reloading but that isn't the main consideration.
I'd still love to find someone around my area that might be willing to just show me the process.
R_H, thanks again for the info and perspective. I should have been more clear all along that I don't mean test in the scientific sense. I understand all of the constraints for scientific testing because that's my 9-5, and I can see how it could have been perceived I was attempting such a test. I am more interested in using the kills I have moving forward to gather anecdotal evidence of bullet performance. With that in mind I'd like to try a diverse range of projectiles, including some of the ones mentioned earlier that aren't available in factory loading. As I said earlier I enjoy tinkering and find bullet technology fascinating.
I mean doesn't a 150gr NBT sound like good, accurate deer medicine?
What about that 160 grain partition?
And those 110gr Accubonds and TTSX's, I know they're not made to shoot long range, but for my uses, how might they do?
There is even a 180 grain Woodleigh...
I guess I'll keep thinking on it and spend the dough on one or the other.
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Re: Anyone reload the .270 Win
[Re: Razorsharp123]
#2303351
11/23/17 11:06 AM
11/23/17 11:06 AM
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Sneads, Florida
fladeerhntr
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I would give the Accubonds a try if it was me. I shoot the 140 in my 7 mag and really like it. If I used a 270 I'd try the 130's to start off with and see how they did in my particular gun. I've had friends that used nothing but 150's in their 270 because that's what shot the best but on the other hand I've got a ruger M77 that shoots 130's the best.
Last edited by fladeerhntr; 11/23/17 11:09 AM.
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