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Hornady SST vs ELD- X #2280648
11/03/17 02:32 PM
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What's the difference between the Hornady SST and ELD-X (factory loads)? I shoot a Sako Finnlight 85 in 7mm mag and it loves the Hornady SST 154gr at the range, but I haven't been impressed with the results in the field. I'm thinking about trying the 162gr ELD-X and Barnes 160gr TSX.

Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: 270wsm] #2280690
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I can't tell you the technical difference between eld-x and sst but I've hunted and killed deer with both in 6.5 Creedmoor.

I didn't care for the results on the sst's. Killed two bucks with the sst's. Both were less than 100 yds when shot and both were dead within 40 yards. Neither bled a drop. In my opinion the bullet expanded/ frangmented too quickly at that range and didn't exit, thus no blood. On one deer no problem because he never left my sight. The other one ran into a briar thicket. Had to walk circles to find him which was not fun.

I've had better results with the eld-x at longer and shorter ranges. Good pass throughs with expansion. Dead deer with blood trail if needed. I'm sticking with eld-x again this year.

I've hunted with Barnes tsx in a 300 mag with good results. I would hesitate to hunt with it either.

Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: 270wsm] #2280748
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I can only speak of the SST bullets. I shot them in my 270 Win. Those things left the best blood trail of anything that I've ever shot.


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Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: 270wsm] #2280761
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Nosler ballistic tips for blood and partitions for penetration. I shot one deer with 308 and 165 sst and had not blood trail at all, deer went about 20 yds into some plantation and briars. I'll stay with nosler.

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Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: 270wsm] #2280779
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I don't need blood trails when deer are dead within 20 yds. I killed an elk with the eldX and plenty of deer with ttsx. Both way outperform the SST by a mile.


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Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: 270wsm] #2280782
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Don't shoot a ballistic tip. Shoot something like a partition, accubond, or ttsx.

Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: ColeT] #2280790
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Originally Posted By: ColeT
Don't shoot a ballistic tip. Shoot something like a partition, accubond, or ttsx.


If you only new the deer I've killed personally with bt's you would say wow! Never had a single issue in 20 or so years with multiple calibers.


If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.

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Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: Reloader79] #2280801
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Originally Posted By: Reloader79

Originally Posted By: ColeT
Don't shoot a ballistic tip. Shoot something like a partition, accubond, or ttsx.


If you only new the deer I've killed personally with bt's you would say wow! Never had a single issue in 20 or so years with multiple calibers.


I wouldn't shoot ballistic silvertips again, if they were free. They were terrible. I much prefer the sst to them.


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Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: 270wsm] #2280816
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I have a couple of boxes of Winchester Silvertips I'd be willing to trade with anyone. My gun doesn't like Winchester ammo. That's a 30:06 caliber too.


I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: 270wsm] #2281203
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I am not sure if the jackets are the same but the ELD-x has a “special” heat shielded tip to keep the bullet from deforming for long range shots.
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Never shot an ELD-X however have shot deer with both the SST and Amax with no issue.


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Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: 270wsm] #2281777
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I have shot 2 of them with SST in my 270. exit wounds on both. the first was right at 100 yards. i hit her high shoulder and right through a vertebra. decent exit wound but she fell in her tracks because that entire vertebra exploded. i mean 100% mush. exit wound must have been the base of the bullet. it wasn't huge.

2nd deer was around 65 yards. hit behind the shoulder. bullet entered between 2 ribs. exit wound busted through a rib. tall grass looked like you sprayed it with a blood fire hose. I found a piece of lung the size of a golf ball on the ground about 5 yards beyond where I had shot it. deer went about 15 yards and dropped.

exit hole was about the size of a golf ball. blood everywhere.

Bullets are funny things. 1 bullet may do great if you hit the shoulder blade, and another fail. but then the same 2 bullets with a good shot behind the shoulder may yield opposite results. thus, the variety of anecdotal stories.

different situations can call for different bullets. I use Core-Lokt in y 30-30 because I only take it into the woods where there is brush vs the open fields for my 270. need a tougher bullet for brush.


-Keith
Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: 270wsm] #2281914
11/05/17 12:14 AM
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The bullet itself looks totally different and by the info on the projectile box the sst=.460bc and eldx=.538bc.These are 270win data by the way. Sst= 130gr,cannelure,bright red polymer tip and different profile compared to the eldx=145gr,non cannelure,dark red tip and more sleek profile. Havent cut one down the middle yet but from the picture on the box the sst looks more like an interlock with a polymer tip when deformed compared to the eldx.


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Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: 270wsm] #2282008
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SST’s are one of the worst hunting bullets IMO. I do like the ELD-X though.


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Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: 270wsm] #2282356
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The eldX is designed to run and open at slower speeds than barnes ttsx. Barnes has to have speed. EldX does not.


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Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: Reloader79] #2283175
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Originally Posted By: Reloader79

Originally Posted By: ColeT
Don't shoot a ballistic tip. Shoot something like a partition, accubond, or ttsx.


If you only new the deer I've killed personally with bt's you would say wow! Never had a single issue in 20 or so years with multiple calibers.


Yea me too. With Nosler's. Now... I've never shot Winchester's ballistic tip so I can't speak to that.

I couldn't tell you how many I've killed with 7mm 140 Nosler BT in 7mm-08, 7-30 Waters and/or .308/30-06 165 Nosler BT.

Let's just call it a train car load.


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Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: Goatkiller] #2283293
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Originally Posted By: Goatkiller
Originally Posted By: Reloader79

Originally Posted By: ColeT
Don't shoot a ballistic tip. Shoot something like a partition, accubond, or ttsx.


If you only new the deer I've killed personally with bt's you would say wow! Never had a single issue in 20 or so years with multiple calibers.


Yea me too. With Nosler's. Now... I've never shot Winchester's ballistic tip so I can't speak to that.

I couldn't tell you how many I've killed with 7mm 140 Nosler BT in 7mm-08, 7-30 Waters and/or .308/30-06 165 Nosler BT.

Let's just call it a train car load.


Winchester ballistic silvertips are Nosler Ballistic tips with a moly costing.

I have blown up a 338 cal. 200 gr ballistic tip on a deer. Shot him in the shoulder at 20 yards and bullet completely fragmented. Had to chaser him down and put another shot into the boiler room.


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Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: AU338MAG] #2283326
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Originally Posted By: AU338MAG
Originally Posted By: Goatkiller
Originally Posted By: Reloader79

Originally Posted By: ColeT
Don't shoot a ballistic tip. Shoot something like a partition, accubond, or ttsx.


If you only new the deer I've killed personally with bt's you would say wow! Never had a single issue in 20 or so years with multiple calibers.


Yea me too. With Nosler's. Now... I've never shot Winchester's ballistic tip so I can't speak to that.

I couldn't tell you how many I've killed with 7mm 140 Nosler BT in 7mm-08, 7-30 Waters and/or .308/30-06 165 Nosler BT.

Let's just call it a train car load.


Winchester ballistic silvertips are Nosler Ballistic tips with a moly costing.

I have blown up a 338 cal. 200 gr ballistic tip on a deer. Shot him in the shoulder at 20 yards and bullet completely fragmented. Had to chaser him down and put another shot into the boiler room.
I've shot quite a few with a bt again, but quit shooting them and won't go back. I don't want my bullet to blow up. had it happen on a decent 7 pt and got horrible penetration. killed him though.

Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: Goatkiller] #2283379
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Originally Posted By: Goatkiller


I couldn't tell you how many I've killed with 7mm 140 Nosler BT in 7mm-08, 7-30 Waters and/or .308/30-06 165 Nosler BT.

Let's just call it a train car load.



At those speeds they are probably pretty wonderful whitetail bullets. I think the people who have problems with them are the ones that try to push them way too fast out of magnum rifles.

Re: Hornady SST vs ELD- X [Re: BrentM] #2283429
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I would say that is a safe assumption...

Or shot it in the arse.


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I had a sst 139 grain bullet blow up on a doe with a shoulder shot with a 7mm08 superformance at 70 yards. My cousin just shot a nice 8 with his 7 mag with 139 grain sst superformance. He shotvit in the heart and it didn't exit. It dropped the deer and left a softball size hole at the impact. This year I ordered a couple of boxes of the eldx's for my 300 win mag in 200 grain and some 150's for my 7mm08. I ended up liking how they grouped so I ordered a custom turret for my vortex viper on my 300. I shot a 8 at 200 yards and dropped it with the 300. It made a nice exit and the rib cage was damaged pretty bad. I shot a doe the next week at 60 yards through the lungs with the 7mm08 and it ran about 50 yards and had a bigger exit hole than what the 300 made. And it was equally as devastating on the deer when I skinned it out. They are my new favorite bullet.

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