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Question on fertilizer #2259972
10/16/17 05:37 AM
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I have read with great interest the post's on using triple anything fertilizer. We have been for many years used triple 13 or 17 when we can get it at the rate of 300 lbs. or better per. acre.

I have noticed on the soil samples of the build up into the high range of P and K. I am thinking of using Nitrogen only for a few years on the food plots until the levels drop back into the normal range.
I would like some opinions from some of the experts before I make the changes.

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If the soil samples call for no P&K but call for N, then use just N.

Re: Question on fertilizer [Re: catdoctor] #2259989
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I'm no expert but I know P & K doesn't leave like N. High P & K may be with you awhile....which isn't a totally bad thing. Just use N and I'd probably split it into 2 applications.

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My wife has thrown the soil samples away so I am going by memory.
When we had the farmers co op around, they would custom blend the fertilizer. Now the only thing we can get is triple or some weird numbered standard blend.
When you live in the sticks you have to get used to using what is available!

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Most soils in Alabama are going to be deficient in N and K either from the plants using them or leaching out of the soil from rain. Phosphorus doesn't move around nearly as much as those two but a lot of your phosphorus will be unavailable to the plants and locked up in the soil.

Its hard to say what your soil needs without a yearly soil sample that is why a lot of seed companies just recommend using 300lbs of 13-13-13/acre so that there product will not fail. If you have a properly balanced soil and know exactly what you need then you can save a little money.

Soil samples typically cost less than a bag of fertilizer so it might be worth it to find out what you need.

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Save the money and just use nitrogen, half at planting and half mid dec. Soil test next summer and go from there

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Originally Posted By: ronfromramer
Save the money and just use nitrogen, half at planting and half mid dec. Soil test next summer and go from there


Exactly what I do. The Dec. application is also due to the December lull.

Re: Question on fertilizer [Re: catdoctor] #2272008
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Originally Posted By: catdoctor
My wife has thrown the soil samples away so I am going by memory.
When we had the farmers co op around, they would custom blend the fertilizer. Now the only thing we can get is triple or some weird numbered standard blend.
When you live in the sticks you have to get used to using what is available!


We are in the same boat and in Wilcox county also. Our Potassium (K, third number in formula) levels are high but our phosphorus (P, second number) are low. CPS in Selma is custom blending us a fertilizer of 26-23-0-5 (5 number is micronutrients like sulfur, etc I think). This one will have no Potassium and they told me this was important. Apparently when K levels get too high it can lead to nutrient tie up. The soil fertility will be there, but the plants won't be able to use it.

We're getting 4 tons in a buggy load for the equivalent price of $12 per bag. We've got to go to Selma and get the buggy and return it, and it will be a little bit of a pain getting it to some of our fields, but we're putting out what we NEED, rather than just some blanket X lbs of triple whatever that may have actually hurt us rather than helped. Sorry for the Olympic sized run-on sentence.

Thank The Lord we took soil samples this year (and every other). Baffles me why some don't want to do them.

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Originally Posted By: ronfromramer
Save the money and just use nitrogen, half at planting and half mid dec. Soil test next summer and go from there


Exactly what I do. The Dec. application is also due to the December lull.


The N we're getting in our blend is allegedly a slow release nitrogen that I'm told will keep us from needing an in-season nitrogen application. Those will never happen on our place anyway unless we get a dry December or January. Once our place get's good and wet it stays that way.

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Thanks for all the info. and ideas.
We finished planting last Friday before the rain. I think I am going to go with Nitrogen in two applications.
I would love to use a custom blend, but the trip to Selma and the price per ton is more money and trouble that I want to put into the plots this year.


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