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Hurts vs Tua #2271860
10/26/17 08:23 PM
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After hearing and getting excited about how much Hurts has improved all summer, I can honestly say that he has regressed. Just look at his deep ball numbers...if I remember right, he has had only one pass over 30 yards for a completion in the air (fsu) and has overthrown every single one of them. Sure Tua has played vs tired defenses at the ends of games, but with the nfl throws the guy is making, there is a huge spark when he comes in. After watching the Tennessee game, I'm sold that Jalen may not have his spot next year because Tua is just that good. You can't tell me that Tenn. defense(2nd rated pass defense btw) was tired at the beginning of the second half when Tua took over. Even on the short swing throws, Hurts was throwing behind receivers.

Sure, Hurts has only lost one game as a starter, but honestly, he has played terrible vs just about every good defense Bama has played. If it wasn't for the running backs, I can assure you that there would be more losses on the board. Look at the number of recievers catching the ball with Jalen compared to that of Hurts...shows that Hurts still isn't going through progressions, while Tua from his first snap has (I was watching every snap). All I am saying is that while it's Hurts' spot to lose, next year's qb battle will be interesting...

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Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: Gobble4me757] #2271861
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I agree. Hurts would make a hell of a running back though.


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Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: deadeye] #2271900
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Originally Posted By: deadeye
I agree. Hurts would make a hell of a running back though.


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Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: Gobble4me757] #2271908
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Agreed. Hurts is one of the worst deep-ball QBs in the power 5 statistically. He had one good game as a passer but has been too inconsistent. He got Ridley injured last week from bad ball placement and has done the same to others


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Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: Gobble4me757] #2271916
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He'll still play next year, he's to good of an athlete. But I bet Tua gets a lot more playing time.

Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: Gobble4me757] #2271930
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I wouldnt be surprised if Saban puts in a package that fits the two quarterbacks athletic abilities the best next season. I think it will be the only way to keep the both of them at Bama.


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Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: Gobble4me757] #2271944
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That Tua sure can hit em on the run.
He also showed he can run himself the other day and we had not seen that. I figure he will play in the NFL one day.


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Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: Gobble4me757] #2271954
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I bet Tua transfers to Samford so that he can be closer to his parents in Alabaster.

Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: Gobble4me757] #2272071
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I do miss the long passes that AJ McCarron was so good at. Tua does have an edge there


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Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: Gobble4me757] #2272113
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Saban used to never bring in the backup quarterback until mid 4th quarter, but he's bringing in Tua early to get reps cause he knows against teams like Auburn,Georgia, and Clemson we will have to throw the ball to be successful. He's way better throwing than Hurts, but until we struggle, he's going to be the one Saban puts in control of the game. Likes his experience and cool calm demeanor.

Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: Gobble4me757] #2272144
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I agree that next year the QB battle is going to be intense. Tua most definitely has NFL arm talent while Jalen does not. I am am a big fan of Tua BUT keep in mind that when he enters the game the outcome is already decided. He has no pressure on him and a huge lead to play with.
Hopefully Saban handles both QBs the right way and neither one of them transfers.



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Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: Gobble4me757] #2272159
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Tua isn't second string IMHO.

He is 1B...

Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: Gobble4me757] #2272214
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I am glad a lot of yall are seeing what I have been seeing. The difference is throwing people open and waiting for the people to open before throwing. Tua already is throwing people open and going through reads as a true freshman! Just look at his improvement from the first game till now...I honestly think Hurts is at his ceiling while no one knows how high Tua's will be.

Another thing is: anyone notice how Tua comes in with the first string receivers even at the ends of games?? People like Cam Sims who are pretty dang good are finally getting the ball to them because Hurts won't look past Calvin or the running back before taking off. I'm with Blumsden...I haven't seen Saban bring a backup qb in right after halftime before...Let me ask yall this: if we were down and needed a gw drive when the other team is locking down on the run, putting a spy on the qb, and have a pretty good back end in coverage bracketing Ridley with a safety over top, would you honestly trust Jalen throwing the ball? I for one do not...I'm just saying this because LSU is going to try and do it as well as I know Georgia will...Georgia has the talent to shut Jalen's run down..


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Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: burbank] #2272220
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Originally Posted By: burbank
I bet Tua transfers to Samford so that he can be closer to his parents in Alabaster.


Y'all found another #JUCUAugustHeismanFrontrunner yet?

Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: Gobble4me757] #2272241
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Originally Posted By: Gobble4me757
I am glad a lot of yall are seeing what I have been seeing. The difference is throwing people open and waiting for the people to open before throwing. Tua already is throwing people open and going through reads as a true freshman! Just look at his improvement from the first game till now...I honestly think Hurts is at his ceiling while no one knows how high Tua's will be.

Another thing is: anyone notice how Tua comes in with the first string receivers even at the ends of games?? People like Cam Sims who are pretty dang good are finally getting the ball to them because Hurts won't look past Calvin or the running back before taking off. I'm with Blumsden...I haven't seen Saban bring a backup qb in right after halftime before...Let me ask yall this: if we were down and needed a gw drive when the other team is locking down on the run, putting a spy on the qb, and have a pretty good back end in coverage bracketing Ridley with a safety over top, would you honestly trust Jalen throwing the ball? I for one do not...I'm just saying this because LSU is going to try and do it as well as I know Georgia will...Georgia has the talent to shut Jalen's run down..


Maybe Saban will get it figured out before he cost the Bama nation a ballgame.


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Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: bill] #2272248
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Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: Gobble4me757
I am glad a lot of yall are seeing what I have been seeing. The difference is throwing people open and waiting for the people to open before throwing. Tua already is throwing people open and going through reads as a true freshman! Just look at his improvement from the first game till now...I honestly think Hurts is at his ceiling while no one knows how high Tua's will be.

Another thing is: anyone notice how Tua comes in with the first string receivers even at the ends of games?? People like Cam Sims who are pretty dang good are finally getting the ball to them because Hurts won't look past Calvin or the running back before taking off. I'm with Blumsden...I haven't seen Saban bring a backup qb in right after halftime before...Let me ask yall this: if we were down and needed a gw drive when the other team is locking down on the run, putting a spy on the qb, and have a pretty good back end in coverage bracketing Ridley with a safety over top, would you honestly trust Jalen throwing the ball? I for one do not...I'm just saying this because LSU is going to try and do it as well as I know Georgia will...Georgia has the talent to shut Jalen's run down..


Maybe Saban will get it figured out before he cost the Bama nation a ballgame.


I suspect he already has

Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: Gobble4me757] #2272327
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This reminds me of Notre Dame football in 1966- they had two strong QB's in Terry Hanratty and Coley O Brien. On occasion Ara Parsegian used both of them at the same and it really confused defenses. O'Brien was a strong runner like Hurts but a mediocre passer. Hanratty had an NFL arm (he played for the Steelers) but was a slow runner. No reason Saban can't put Hurts and Tua in at the same time and deaign some trick plays.


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Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: wew3006] #2272383
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Originally Posted By: wew3006
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: Gobble4me757
I am glad a lot of yall are seeing what I have been seeing. The difference is throwing people open and waiting for the people to open before throwing. Tua already is throwing people open and going through reads as a true freshman! Just look at his improvement from the first game till now...I honestly think Hurts is at his ceiling while no one knows how high Tua's will be.

Another thing is: anyone notice how Tua comes in with the first string receivers even at the ends of games?? People like Cam Sims who are pretty dang good are finally getting the ball to them because Hurts won't look past Calvin or the running back before taking off. I'm with Blumsden...I haven't seen Saban bring a backup qb in right after halftime before...Let me ask yall this: if we were down and needed a gw drive when the other team is locking down on the run, putting a spy on the qb, and have a pretty good back end in coverage bracketing Ridley with a safety over top, would you honestly trust Jalen throwing the ball? I for one do not...I'm just saying this because LSU is going to try and do it as well as I know Georgia will...Georgia has the talent to shut Jalen's run down..


Maybe Saban will get it figured out before he cost the Bama nation a ballgame.


I suspect he already has


I kind of figured he knew what he was doing until I read all of the complaining. Then I thought maybe he's just been real lucky for the last 10 years.

You think Shula would consider coming back?


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Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: Gobble4me757] #2272394
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Hope Saban reads this. Maybe salvage what's left of this miserable Alabama season.

Re: Hurts vs Tua [Re: burbank] #2272554
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Originally Posted By: burbank
I bet Tua transfers to Samford so that he can be closer to his parents in Alabaster.


Nailed it.

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