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Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2266185
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I got a call to track yesterday around 1. Hunter said he shot a good buck at 15 yards broadside. Deer ran 20 yards and stopped he then turned and walked off. Hunter said he could see blood and stringy stuff running from the exit wound. I told him I'd be on my way. Deer was shot at 8am and I didn't get there til 2. They lost blood about 60 yards from the hit sight. I started at the arrow and Spark took off right down the trail. She went on past last blood and she kept working her way pulling hard and I felt she was on the deer. She took us to a fence line and wanted to go in the open field and I just didn't see that buck doing that and I felt like we needed to go back to the hit site and try again. On the way back to the hit site, we happened up on blood that confirmed the deer had doubled back. I led spark to the hit site and off we go again. Same route back to the open field. I know for sure this deer doubled back and she's not showing it. By this time, she was spent. Breathing hard and very tired. I continued to help the hunter look for the deer with no luck.

He had called another tracker earlier in the day and he was hung up. I told him to call a more experienced dog bc I believed the deer was dead. I was wanting to be there when the other dog showed just to see where mine went wrong but it was around midnight when they started and I'd been up since 3 am.

I woke up this morning with pics of the deer. I don't know the story yet, but I'll relay it when I know.

Kind of embarrassing on my end but I know she's still young and inexperienced.


Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2266235
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Well, I just got the update. Looks like I should have trusted my dog a little better. The deer went up a very steep pond dam and died in the pond. I didn't know it was a pond and when Spark was wanting to go up it, I called her off.

Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2266248
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Good ending. Keep the stories coming.

I've been on a couple where the handler second guessed the dog , however , the dog was right all along.



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Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2266262
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It’s completely normal…..It’s almost like a rite of passage to have to experience these tracks. Every tracker has done it. It sucks too because it makes you feel embarrassed as hell. Eventually the dog will get better and you’ll get better at reading the dog. It’s a team game. Brush that one off and get on the next one. thumbup

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Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2266268
10/22/17 05:37 AM
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Thanks guys. I learned alot yesterday. I'm glad that I was able to find out the info on the ending.

Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2266826
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It's like I told you when we went squirrel hunting, if you talk the dog up and want a good performance they will let you down just like mine did that day. Glad to see we have someone to call up here if we need a dog.

Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2266907
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Shoot we still had a blast that day buddy. It was my fault for putting us in a gar hole!

Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2266944
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Alright fellers, I just got back from a track. Foldemup text shortly before dark asking if I wanted to track a doe. He thought he hit her high but wasn't sure about the hit. I said sure let me head on that way. I didn't forget the briar pants this time thank God.

We get to the hit site and I let her get her piss and vinegar out. He shows us the general direction she went in the woods. Spark locked on and as soon as I entered the woods, I seen a small spot of blood. Foldemup said he'd stay behind and look for blood and Spark took off. Man, when she's on it, its like I'm being drug behind a D9 dozer. I'm not exactly sure how far we went because I forgot to turn my gps on. (won't do that one again!) His phone said .08 miles. I ended up finding one more good spot of blood where the deer had bled on some trees and there was alot on the ground but other than that I didn't see any. Of course I ain't got time to look either. I ended up having to turn her loose and following her reflective leash. She ends up stopping shortly after and I start scanning for her with my light and BINGO! theres the deer.

I've never seen a hit like this one with the entrance and the exit on the same side of the deer. I think when the deer went thru that nasty spot where I found the blood on the trees, that they pulled the guts on out of her.

Thanks again Foldemup for the opportunity to track. We had a blast!


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Good job! We need a good dog in our area. CD.

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If she’s wanting to track too fast then try working her on some mock tracks that have been aged 12+ hrs. The idea is to make her HAVE to slow down and dig for the scent instead of being able to blow right through it.


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Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2267127
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Thanks again Brent and Spark! For those reading and seeing my shooting skills, I shot at that deer's right side from 16 yards away using my 35 yards pin. When I walked to the field this afternoon, 2 does were already in it, so I ranged one and moved my slider to 35 to take the shot, but she didn't stick around long enough. I forgot to move it back to 20 when I got in my stand, and was excited that I finally had a deer close enough to shoot at. I guess the height in the tree got me the angle to shoot over her spine and enter through her back strap on the opposite side from me, then it exited out her guts and split wide arse open. Very little blood and Spark did a fantastic job!

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Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: CNC] #2267364
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Originally Posted By: CNC
If she’s wanting to track too fast then try working her on some mock tracks that have been aged 12+ hrs. The idea is to make her HAVE to slow down and dig for the scent instead of being able to blow right through it.


I'll give that a shot as soon as this rain let's up. They've picked the corn off my place finally and it's opened up some more room to train.

Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2267397
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Originally Posted By: bowtarist

this rain let's up. They've picked the corn off my place finally and it's opened up some more room to train.


I usually lay one in the afternoon and then track it the next morning. The amount of time that you want to age it depends on the individual dog…..how far are they in their training and how much nose do they have? You’re wanting to present them with whatever challenges them.... so adjust according to how your dog responds. If she does well on a 12 hr track then try 15 hrs…then 18 hrs…..until eventually you work up to 24 hrs.

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Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2268977
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Ran 2 mock lines this afternoon. One for each dog. Haggard, my bloodhound, blew thru his with precision. He'll be 4 months old Nov 1st and is making great strides.

It's not time for Sparks yet. I'm gonna let it age like CNC suggested.



Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2269027
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You definitely need a gps collar for those two. You'll be shredded to ribbons in the briars with those 2 dragging you around on a leash. Look forward to see them both work!


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Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2269104
10/24/17 01:52 PM
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I'm working on that foldemup. I think I convinced the ol lady Sunday night when I came in and she seen all the blood on my arms. lol

Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2269668
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Let us know how she does on that old track..... thumbup


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Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2269949
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Will do.

Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2270340
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So, I laid the lines yesterday with intentions on starting with an 8 hr track and working my way up to 24. Some things came up last night and it was raining so I postponed Sparks turn til I got home today. It was 22 hours old when I started. I wasn't gonna even attempt it with it being that old but I thought I'd just see what she did. Her line was about 300 yards long with 4 90's and a backtrack in it. Took her a minute to get going on it but when she did, she dug in and really slowed down compared to normal. She didn't slow down as much as I think she needs to. She overran 3 of the 90's but she did correct herself. She ended up wind scenting the treat about 40 yards away and she skipped the backtrack.

All in all, she did better than I expected but she does need some more work on the older lines. I'm gonna try and get my cousin to lay a line for me before he goes to work one day and not mark it so I can work her without my knowledge of how the tracks laid.

Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist] #2270392
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Awesome…….. thumbup

Yeah, keep working her on those old lines. She’ll figure out that slowing down is to her benefit and she’ll start working the lines better. I bet your young blood hound could run an overnight track already.


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