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Article on Eufaula.
#2247725
10/05/17 04:52 PM
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They cite the decline of quality fish on Eufaula for several reasons. One really caught my eye. They claim there is a decline of aquatic vegetation! Really. Would that be because the morans are killing it?  In this instance, the bass anglers’ mantra of “catch and release” may be detrimental to the current Eufaula bass population. Weathers attributes the current poor bass condition at Eufaula to three factors. The first is that anglers are throwing too many bass back, which leads to overcrowding. Second is the decline in the amount of aquatic vegetation in the lake. Finally, that decline in vegetation has caused a shift of forage species from sunfish to shad. Sunfish provide a more stable forage base than shad. Article
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
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10/06/17 04:51 AM
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Round ‘bout there
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C'mon, Perch, you know you can't keep any bass. Any of them! That's ruining "the sport" and you're a horrible POS terrible person for even considering keeping a mess of bass to eat.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
[Re: perchjerker]
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10/06/17 06:18 AM
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Guntersville has the best eating bass.
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
[Re: perchjerker]
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10/06/17 12:11 PM
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I don't keep bass, but my point is they complain about the habitat being gone, the freaking state is killing it!
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
[Re: perchjerker]
#2248539
10/06/17 02:45 PM
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Bass, the other white meat.
Tournamentizers have given the young'uns a bad case of having to throw fish back. Overcrowding bass populations ain't good.
And you don't go to hell for frying up a few bass for supper.
Was always puzzled by "put him back so others can enjoy catching the bass." Pure dimwit logic.
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
[Re: perchjerker]
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10/06/17 03:42 PM
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Somebody has to leave some for AC!  The logic is because with several tournaments every weekend on any given lake the population could be severely hurt. I know you've seen folks lose their minds when fish die at weigh-ins.
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
[Re: perchjerker]
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10/09/17 04:11 AM
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I don't agree with keeping fish out of big "river system" reservoirs, but it's not because I'm against keeping fish. I'd rather just keep bass out of cleaner private watersheds. But mainly I already believe fishing-pressure mortality is so great on our big lakes that I wouldn't dream of keeping any (plus they're polluted like crazy). I don't fish a single lake that has better fishing than it did 1, 5, 10, or 20 years ago. They have all gotten progressively worse, and I think the cause is overfishing. Again, not "keeping" the fish, but just constantly catching/handling/transporting/stressing the fish. The common denominator with the decline in fishing is the incline in fishermen.
Last edited by ikillbux; 10/09/17 04:13 AM.
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
[Re: bloodtrail]
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10/09/17 08:08 AM
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Lay is MUCH better than it was 20yrs ago. 15lb would win most tournaments any time of year, some were won with much less. I believe the coosa overall is better as well.
Watch the 2002 Classic that Jay Yelas won, or the one before that. Bassmaster has them all archived. I hesitate to agree or disagree.... More specifically, my experience (mostly on the Coosa) is that largemouths are more prevalent now than before, but the spots are just gone. If someone says they're catching more and bigger spots today, then I'll just have to chalk it up that I suck You used to never see 20# on a Coosa lake, heck you could win most any tournament with 13#-14# of spots. And if you fished all day long, 90% of your fish were spots. Now it's closer to 50/50, and the big spots have just vanished. I can't remember the last 4+ spot I've caught, and it used to be normal to catch some like that all the time. Now in any big tournament the top several places are bring in sacks of largemouths, and I mean big ones. I've fished Logan my whole life, and I'm not bad, and I've only ever caught a handful of 6# heads (one I "think" was closer to 7#), but they are bringing in several of those in every tournament, and occasionally some 8+# fish. The only difference I see is the number of boats on the water. There used to only be a couple of smallish wildcats on Saturdays and maybe a Tuesday evening derby. Now there are 100 boat tournaments every weekend, sometimes more than one, and apparently there's a derby every night from multiple ramps. On Logan Martin it's basically impossible to go at ANY time of the week and not see multiple other boats.
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
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10/09/17 08:36 AM
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I do my part. The concept of fishing for any reason other than eating them is foreign to me.
I eat them a couple times a month at least. I filleted two spots in the 4-5 lb range three weeks ago and filleted one at 3 and a flathead at 4 two weeks ago.
Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
[Re: Geno]
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10/09/17 11:28 AM
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I do my part. The concept of fishing for any reason other than eating them is foreign to me.
I eat them a couple times a month at least. I filleted two spots in the 4-5 lb range three weeks ago and filleted one at 3 and a flathead at 4 two weeks ago. Dang Geno, you got me  over here! 
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
[Re: perchjerker]
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10/09/17 11:41 AM
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I eat Lake Martin fish. No problem with them. Like Geno, about twice a month.
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
[Re: Gotcha1]
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10/09/17 02:01 PM
10/09/17 02:01 PM
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I eat Lake Martin fish. No problem with them. Like Geno, about twice a month. I seldom ever get to Martin, but I go to Wedowee sometimes and keep some small spots. Clean as a whistle.
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
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10/11/17 07:17 AM
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I do my part. The concept of fishing for any reason other than eating them is foreign to me.
I eat them a couple times a month at least. I filleted two spots in the 4-5 lb range three weeks ago and filleted one at 3 and a flathead at 4 two weeks ago. Dang Geno, you got me over here! I should probably look and see where we're not supposed to eat them before I do. Too much work.
Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
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10/11/17 08:06 AM
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Lay is MUCH better than it was 20yrs ago. 15lb would win most tournaments any time of year, some were won with much less. I believe the coosa overall is better as well.
Watch the 2002 Classic that Jay Yelas won, or the one before that. Bassmaster has them all archived. I hesitate to agree or disagree.... More specifically, my experience (mostly on the Coosa) is that largemouths are more prevalent now than before, but the spots are just gone. If someone says they're catching more and bigger spots today, then I'll just have to chalk it up that I suck You used to never see 20# on a Coosa lake, heck you could win most any tournament with 13#-14# of spots. And if you fished all day long, 90% of your fish were spots. Now it's closer to 50/50, and the big spots have just vanished. I can't remember the last 4+ spot I've caught, and it used to be normal to catch some like that all the time. Now in any big tournament the top several places are bring in sacks of largemouths, and I mean big ones. I've fished Logan my whole life, and I'm not bad, and I've only ever caught a handful of 6# heads (one I "think" was closer to 7#), but they are bringing in several of those in every tournament, and occasionally some 8+# fish. The only difference I see is the number of boats on the water. There used to only be a couple of smallish wildcats on Saturdays and maybe a Tuesday evening derby. Now there are 100 boat tournaments every weekend, sometimes more than one, and apparently there's a derby every night from multiple ramps. On Logan Martin it's basically impossible to go at ANY time of the week and not see multiple other boats. Call me next Feb-April. I can show you some 4+ spots. IF they are there. You do have a valid point. Spot numbers are decreasing at the house, no doubt. Jeff Edmondson caught a 6+ this spring in a CRTT here. THAT was a pig.
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
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10/12/17 04:23 AM
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Right Behind You
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Whenever I prefish for a tournament, I'll keep some. Generally a 2 pound or less fish. Not many, but enough for dinner. The harvest aspect of bass fishing is over looked. I think a lot of people place blame on harvest for whatever might ail a fishery.
"The misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing... compared to the misery of not being exploited at all."
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
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10/12/17 04:32 AM
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Round ‘bout there
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I think a lot of people place blame on harvest for whatever might ail a fishery.
Of course they do. It's the easiest thing to point to. "William keeps bass, and during tournament practice!" "All those northern anglers are keeping fish in spring and killing everything!" "He kept two 5-pounders that could have made millions of babies for us!" "Those dirty bowfishermen are stirring up the water during the spawn and killing all the fish!" "Those dirty bowfishermen are shooting bass and getting away with it!" Um, how about tournament fishing in spring during spawning periods and hauling around egg-laden females for 6-8 hours in confined spaces? "Shut your dirty mouth! Tournaments generate revenue and promote tourism!" Ah. So bringing in more people to a fishery via tourism is a good thing? "Yes, it's revenue for the city and is ..." And is good for the fishery, to have more people here fishing? "Well ..." Perhaps some cooler heads on all sides would be better. Keeping a mess of fish here and there isn't going to devastate the fishery. Bowfishing is a nominal niche deal but noticed because the fans are loud and some mouthbreathing assholes throw fish at the ramps. Tournament fishing isn't always a terrible deal. Gotta find the balance.
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
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10/12/17 01:13 PM
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C3S, I saw a rod and reel that had dropped in the (West Point, up river) Hooch for a week. It looked like it had been in salt water a month. The water in the hooch is full of chemicals. It had holes in the side plates.
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: Article on Eufaula.
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10/12/17 02:20 PM
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I'll admit, my views are formulated very heavily by Logan Martin. I don't know anybody who thinks Logan is a better spot fishery now than it was in the recent past. For that matter, I don't catch the same quality spots on Neely that I once did. I seldom get to Lay/Mitchell/Jordan, in fact I didn't fish any of them this whole year.
I fish Logan Martin, Neely Henry, Wedowee, and Guntersville about even. Maybe make a trip to Weiss and Pickwick once each year.
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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