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Nashville Church Shooting #2235657
09/24/17 07:37 AM
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Parker243 Offline OP
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Just saw on twitter where there was a shooting at a church in metro area of Nashville. In the town of Antioch. Reports are saying 8 injured including the shooter. How disgusting.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tennessean.com/amp/697968001

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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Parker243] #2235661
09/24/17 07:42 AM
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Our church formed a security team after the SC church shooting. I know the odds of someobody coming in our church armed, with the intent to kill "us" is probably higher than somebody winning the lottery but we are prepared now. We don't have the means to prevent someone from entering without locking all the doors, which seems to be a little counterproductive for a church to do, but if somebody comes in shooting, they're going to meet armed resistance.


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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Parker243] #2235667
09/24/17 07:48 AM
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That's terrible. I can even begin to understand what would make someone do such a thing.


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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Parker243] #2235674
09/24/17 08:03 AM
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Several years ago I worked security at a local Church back in VA. It was a part time gig we did for a few extra bucks when we wasn't working at the dept. It was a plain clothes gig that wasn't bad.

Fast forward to now it's a sad thing to need armed security at Church. Our primary roll back then was the offering plates (thieves would try and rob them).

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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Parker243] #2235675
09/24/17 08:04 AM
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Terrible. We had an mentally unstable individual with a significant arrest record threatening our church a couple of years ago. Several of our members are now armed.


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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Parker243] #2235683
09/24/17 08:13 AM
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Churchs have had to put someone in their parking lots for a long time. I know some in Mobile had people 20 yrs ago due to thieves hitting parking lots. I'm such there is a special space in hell for thieves that hit Churches.


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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Parker243] #2235686
09/24/17 08:20 AM
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I go to a very small church near I65. There's often traffic coming from the interstate stopping by. We formed a security team for that very reason.


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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Parker243] #2235692
09/24/17 08:31 AM
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The Gunman, Identified as a Man in His 20s, Shot Himself After Being Confronted by a Church Member With a Handgun Permit


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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Parker243] #2235693
09/24/17 08:32 AM
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I hate that. I hope he/she/it dies on the way to the operating table.

Dang it man.


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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Parker243] #2235695
09/24/17 08:34 AM
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Not to diminish this action but Antioch is not exactly the desirable neighborhood to live in or even drive through in Nashville.


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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Dustin] #2235698
09/24/17 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: Dustin
Not to diminish this action but Antioch is not exactly the desirable neighborhood to live in or even drive through in Nashville.


Pretty sure the really poor decent people who grew up there and had no other options would appreciate your view of their place.


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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: FurFlyin] #2235702
09/24/17 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: FurFlyin
Our church formed a security team after the SC church shooting. I know the odds of someobody coming in our church armed, with the intent to kill "us" is probably higher than somebody winning the lottery but we are prepared now. We don't have the means to prevent someone from entering without locking all the doors, which seems to be a little counterproductive for a church to do, but if somebody comes in shooting, they're going to meet armed resistance.


I'm part of our church's security team. We lock all the doors except front entrance at 10 after. On our Sunday to monitor, I'm the "rover" and my wife monitors the cameras. If she sees something unusual, she calls me and I check it out.
We don't have a formal policy on arms but the rovers I know all have CC permits. I pray to God I make it through life without ever having to shoot anyone but I will defend my church family just as I will defend my family at home.
Our security monitoring all started as a result of some car break-ins during service. I can't imagine a church not having a security plan this day and age.


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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Parker243] #2235704
09/24/17 08:46 AM
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You guys that do church security have armor?


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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Geno] #2235706
09/24/17 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted By: Geno
Originally Posted By: Dustin
Not to diminish this action but Antioch is not exactly the desirable neighborhood to live in or even drive through in Nashville.


Pretty sure the really poor decent people who grew up there and had no other options would appreciate your view of their place.


I have to stop off there and work in the vicinity so I'm aware of the location. Working in the area I am also aware that a good portion of the people that grew up and live in the vicinity have the same view. I'm not commenting on them. I am commenting on the fact that you can't stop off for gas without fear of carjacking or getting mugged.
Thanks for your input though.


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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Geno] #2235708
09/24/17 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted By: Geno
You guys that do church security have armor?


I had/have a slim vest that I wore under my shirt. You can't really see it unless I have a tight fitting shirt on


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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Dustin] #2235713
09/24/17 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted By: Dustin
Originally Posted By: Geno
Originally Posted By: Dustin
Not to diminish this action but Antioch is not exactly the desirable neighborhood to live in or even drive through in Nashville.


Pretty sure the really poor decent people who grew up there and had no other options would appreciate your view of their place.


I have to stop off there and work in the vicinity so I'm aware of the location. Working in the area I am also aware that a good portion of the people that grew up and live in the vicinity have the same view. I'm not commenting on them. I am commenting on the fact that you can't stop off for gas without fear of carjacking or getting mugged.
Thanks for your input though.


I wasn't trying to be adversarial or condescending.


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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Parker243] #2235714
09/24/17 09:06 AM
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I'm always armed,even in Church.

Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Parker243] #2235717
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Anyone who doesn't have armor - look on ebay. The manufacturers warrant them for five years and you see a ton of them on the used market for as low as 50 clams shipped for II-A and III-A sometimes. The feds won't keep them past where the warranty runs out. Throw a soft trauma pad in there rated at III-a or rifle and you're way ahead of the next folks. You can put a pad on there with duct tape too if it doesn't have a pocket.

They don't go bad - Me and a bunch of my shipmates used old ones from 5 to 25 years old to shoot the crap out of because we could get them for free and they all held up to what they originally claimed.

If I was a normal person, I would have a closet full of those things in various sizes. Female ones are often cheaper than male ones - they wear fine and the lumps on the front go down soon after you put them on.


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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: Geno] #2235721
09/24/17 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted By: Geno
You guys that do church security have armor?

We wear Kevlar vests and tote Desert Eagles. Our greeters wield ARs while they hand out the bulletins.


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Re: Nashville Church Shooting [Re: MarksOutdoors] #2235727
09/24/17 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted By: MarksOutdoors
Originally Posted By: Geno
You guys that do church security have armor?

We wear Kevlar vests and tote Desert Eagles. Our greeters wield ARs while they hand out the bulletins.


I gotta see that


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