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Re: Luther Strange and Trump
[Re: jawbone]
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and that he got in trouble for putting his Christian beliefs in front of popular opinion.
I'm not going to bash you but I strongly disagree with this. In both cases he went against what he swore to do (follow the law) because he knew the laws, or rulings, were not popular in Alabama and he could parlay that into political clout. It turns out it became quite profitable, monetarily, for him also. In other words, he went with what he knew would be the popular opinion in Alabama. I'm going to have a hard time voting for either one. I agree with you///
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Re: Luther Strange and Trump
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09/24/17 09:20 AM
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...this election to me is a lot like the Presidential Election, you just hold your nose and pick the least evil of the two. I just think Strange's connection to Bentley reeks, and why in the hell would Washington Republicans spend millions of dollars campaigning for 1 republican against another republican? Why aren't they spending that money campaigning against the Dems? That doesnt pass the smell test
This. I can't vote for Strange. The deal he made with Bentley and now knowing McConnell and his group are spending millions to get him elected is all I need to know. Moore will get my vote two more times in 2017. My vote helped send a message to Washington late last year and they're doing all they can to destroy that vote. Their message...no outsiders in Washington. What really torques me is the Republicans would have been much happier if the beast had won. But Strange is who Trump wants. You voted for Trump but you don't want him to have the congress he needs to forward his agenda? Bill, I support our president but not in everything he does or will do. Sometimes he's his own worst enemy and I think he's wrong in supporting Strange. I will exercise my option to vote against our president's choice in this election.
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Re: Luther Strange and Trump
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He's a scumbag. He had to sleep on sandbags so his men wouldn't frag him in his sleep in Vietnam. I'm not an obsessed Moore supporter but how the hell do you know that? this election to me is a lot like the Presidential Election, you just hold your nose and pick the least evil of the two. I just think Strange's connection to Bentley reeks, and why in the hell would Washington Republicans spend millions of dollars campaigning for 1 republican against another republican? Why aren't they spending that money campaigning against the Dems? That doesnt pass the smell test Read his wiki. Damn guys - do ya'll do any investigation AT ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL on the people you vote for?
Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
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Re: Luther Strange and Trump
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he swore to follow the law. when he saw he couldn't do that and follow his conscience, he should have stepped aside.
with all due respect, I disagree with this point. I am not sure of Mr Moores motivation or goals but if the law changes because of a shift in popular belief then we need leaders who are willing to jeopardize their careers to stand for what they believe is right and represent those who elected them. I know many believe that he was grandstanding but when he took a stand he didn't 100% know that it would benefit him politically, things could have just as easily worked against him.
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Re: Luther Strange and Trump
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[quote=jawbone
he swore to follow the law. when he saw he couldn't do that and follow his conscience, he should have stepped aside. Simple as that. Instead he makes him self the martyr and parlays it into politics and a profitable non-profit.
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That above post is pure 100% bs.
#1>> Unlike the SCOTUS and other federal judges Moore actually DID follow the law. Not the atheist Marxist bs "law", but the REAL LAW.
#2>> the Foundation for Moral Law is not a money maker for anyone affiliated with it. It has a very small budget. And fights the good fight against groups such as the ACLU, SPLC, Planned Parenthood and other radical Left atheist groups.
#3>> Moore might not be your "kind of guy" in terms of personalities, but he is a literal Founding Father level/type constitutional conservative, Christian conservative and fiscal conservative.
***>>> it is PATHETIC that this thread even exists on a hunting forum in a southern State. It show the true colors of al lot of people and exactly why this country is going down the crapper.
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Re: Luther Strange and Trump
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09/25/17 08:02 AM
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But Strange is who Trump wants. You voted for Trump but you don't want him to have the congress he needs to forward his agenda?
Sorry Bill, but that is an incredibly stupid simplistic statement.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Luther Strange and Trump
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09/25/17 08:04 AM
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This article is written by an atheist Bolshevik Jew, but it is nonetheless interesting (despite being full of a lot of made up out of thin air bs): https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/25/alabamas...commentary.html
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Luther Strange and Trump
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09/25/17 08:06 AM
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But Strange is who Trump wants. You voted for Trump but you don't want him to have the congress he needs to forward his agenda?
Sorry Bill, but that is an incredibly stupid simplistic statement. Thanks so much for your keen insight and wisdom regarding my statement. I'll try to process it all when I have several hours to break it down.
Last edited by bill; 09/25/17 08:07 AM.
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Re: Luther Strange and Trump
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09/25/17 08:35 AM
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Just received an email from Gun owners of America telling me to vote for Moore.
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Luther Strange and Trump
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#1>> Unlike the SCOTUS and other federal judges Moore actually DID follow the law. Not the atheist Marxist bs "law", but the REAL LAW.
Please explain #1.
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Re: Luther Strange and Trump
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#1>> Unlike the SCOTUS and other federal judges Moore actually DID follow the law. Not the atheist Marxist bs "law", but the REAL LAW.
Please explain #1. I assume he means God's Law, which is not the oath he swore to. He swore to follow Man's Laws when he put his hand on The Bible and raised his right hand.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Luther Strange and Trump
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Trump was there mainly because[/color] McConnell is behind Luther[color:#FF6666] and he thinks backing Luther will give him some clout with McConnell..
I don't want to vote for either one, take Luther, he is in debt politically to McConnell because he took his money... not good... Then take Moore he will have a very hard time beating the Democrat.. Well there you go, that's about all I need to know. Is there any difference between McConnell, McCain, Graham and the like, and aren't they the reason we still have Obamacare, a gazillion judges that haven't been confirmed (yes they got Gorsuch but I'm thinking that was more an act of God than the senate) and no movement on much of anything. I don't want more like McConnell, McCain, Murkowski, Cornyn, Graham and the like, I want more like Lee, Kennedy, and Cruz.
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Re: Luther Strange and Trump
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09/25/17 10:55 AM
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Trump was there mainly because[/color] McConnell is behind Luther[color:#FF6666] and he thinks backing Luther will give him some clout with McConnell..
I don't want to vote for either one, take Luther, he is in debt politically to McConnell because he took his money... not good... Then take Moore he will have a very hard time beating the Democrat.. Well there you go, that's about all I need to know. Is there any difference between McConnell, McCain, Graham and the like, and aren't they the reason we still have Obamacare, a gazillion judges that haven't been confirmed (yes they got Gorsuch but I'm thinking that was more an act of God than the senate) and no movement on much of anything. I don't want more like McConnell, McCain, Murkowski, Cornyn, Graham and the like, I want more like Lee, Kennedy, and Cruz. Then you damn sure don't want strange.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Luther Strange and Trump
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09/26/17 10:49 AM
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#1>> Unlike the SCOTUS and other federal judges Moore actually DID follow the law. Not the atheist Marxist bs "law", but the REAL LAW.
Please explain #1. I will explain with a question: do you think the U.S. Constitution grants a constitutional right to a woman to kill her unborn child, or homos and lesbos to marry and adopt children? I could add a few dozen more questions, but you see the answer. A constitutional conservative actually wants to follow the law - the REAL LAW as was originally intended and as it is per common sense. Atheist Marxist liberals want the opposite - so just because there is some federal court ruling on something doesn't make it the "law". That is what I meant. If we had any real leaders with backbone in the country they would have all stood together and announced nullification of the gay marriage ruling and told the SCOTUS to kiss off. And the Congress would have already impeached them.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Luther Strange and Trump
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09/26/17 10:52 AM
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But Strange is who Trump wants. You voted for Trump but you don't want him to have the congress he needs to forward his agenda?
Sorry Bill, but that is an incredibly stupid simplistic statement. Thanks so much for your keen insight and wisdom regarding my statement. I'll try to process it all when I have several hours to break it down. Your welcome Bill. You know what I meant - your post was nonsensical and pointless for the obvious reason that someone voting for Trump doesn't mean they are going to agree with him on everything. You ALREADY know that. So your above quoted post was illogical. But more to the point is this: America is already PAST the point of no return. There is not going to be anyone "saving the Republic." That time has past. That ship has sailed. It is all down hill from here, just more and more decline and worse. Trump will slow some things down, that is for sure, but the end of the American Republic is within sight now. That is just the way it is. So all these illogical digs about Trump and Trump supporters don't matter. Those were my subtle unspoken points. Regards!
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Re: Luther Strange and Trump
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#1>> Unlike the SCOTUS and other federal judges Moore actually DID follow the law. Not the atheist Marxist bs "law", but the REAL LAW.
Please explain #1. I assume he means God's Law, which is not the oath he swore to. He swore to follow Man's Laws when he put his hand on The Bible and raised his right hand. Bad assumption. You get an "F" for American History and an "F" for American Constitutional Law. Sorry.
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