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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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09/18/17 02:28 PM
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Anyone been? What say you? I don't agree that dinosaurs were on the Ark or that the earth is only 6000 yrs old. A day, a month a years are measurements made by man. A day for God could be a million man years. I do however believe the Bible and that God flooded the earth. Remember the KNOWN earth was only the Middle east, Asia and Europe. I'd love to see it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuGKl7lgh40I believe the earth is 4.6 billion years old. I also believe the Bible. I also believe that people that try to make calendars from the Bible are retards. The Jewish calendar is pretty accurate but on only goes back so far, before it's just a story carved into a rock by folks that thought fire was magic. The real Ark? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IwXy9uEEQ0
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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09/19/17 12:14 AM
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Man, some of you sure are taking a lot of power away from God. What about the account of leviathan and behemoth in Job?(and before you say behemoth is a hippo, look at the description of the tail and tell me you have seen a hippo with a tail like that)
I don't know how all the animals fit on the ark but it says some of each "kind" got on. Kind of like how do we have black, white, hispanic, asian, etc people out of just Noah and his family. God is all powerful and can do things we don't understand, we just have to believe He did it. That is part of pur "faith", believing without seeing.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: lefthorn]
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09/19/17 01:19 AM
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Man, some of you sure are taking a lot of power away from God. What about the account of leviathan and behemoth in Job?(and before you say behemoth is a hippo, look at the description of the tail and tell me you have seen a hippo with a tail like that)
I don't know how all the animals fit on the ark but it says some of each "kind" got on. Kind of like how do we have black, white, hispanic, asian, etc people out of just Noah and his family. God is all powerful and can do things we don't understand, we just have to believe He did it. That is part of pur "faith", believing without seeing. There are just some things that cant be answered but like most things can be given a good educated guess. I heard an atheist mocking a guy over his faith by saying that the Bible was as true as the Unicorns that are in it. Well unicorns were and are real but not in the sense that world has made them. The Biblical Unicorn is actually the Rhinoceros..dont believe me? do your homework before you doubt.
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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09/19/17 01:25 AM
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Deadeye, can you back up your "pre adamite" world with scripture? I am not buying this. When the earth was created, “The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.” Genesis 1:2 ESV
Creatures and man weren't created until day six
If you want to see something weird, study the Nephilim in Genesis
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: AUstan23]
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09/19/17 01:35 AM
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I don't believe YOU translate scripture, I believe the Holy Spirit illuminates it to you, and He isn't going to show you one thing and me another.
You must have missed the other religious threads of past debates Not hardly, all 5,000 of them annoyed me as bad as this one. And the same problem with all those arguments is/was the same problem with this. The REAL problem isn't whether or not dinosaurs lived. There is ZERO reason why it's necessary to believe in millions of years, it is not needed for ANYTHING else in scripture. You have no need for millions of years, nor some fantasy existence prior to Adam EXCEPT THAT YOU CONFIDENTLY BELIEVE MAN AND DOUBT GOD. Period, end of discussion. There literally is no debate, you CANNOT get anything other than a literal single day out of it, and more importantly there is no reason or need to. This whole thread now, which is 4 pages of complete nonsense, is a total straw man. Come on y'all, this is a matter of believe (or not) that Satan has dominion over this time. Of course he will teach anything and everything contradictory to scripture (it was his very first act with Eve). For Pete's sake, we still teach evolution in freakin' school as if there's no question about it. Nevermind that there has NEVER been ONE single piece of evidence to prove it the "theory", but every generation alive today has never been taught anything else.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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09/19/17 01:36 AM
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I can absolutely back it up with scripture. I have studied about the giants and continue to. there have been skeletons of giants found all over the world including the US. Remember they had around 1000 years to multiply and cover the earth and there existence continued after the flood as scripture tells us and history tell us. So yes I believe the sons of god came to the daughters of men after the flood and may continue to do so.. sounds weird I know but I can show you in scripture if you want to chat
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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09/19/17 01:51 AM
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Look back at the afore mentioned scriptures in ISA and EZE. Take a look at Clarence Larkin and hid books on the dispensations. Scripture tells us how the Nephilim got here before so doesn't it make sense that's how they got here again.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: ikillbux]
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09/19/17 02:07 AM
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I don't believe YOU translate scripture, I believe the Holy Spirit illuminates it to you, and He isn't going to show you one thing and me another.
You must have missed the other religious threads of past debates Not hardly, all 5,000 of them annoyed me as bad as this one. And the same problem with all those arguments is/was the same problem with this. The REAL problem isn't whether or not dinosaurs lived. There is ZERO reason why it's necessary to believe in millions of years, it is not needed for ANYTHING else in scripture. You have no need for millions of years, nor some fantasy existence prior to Adam EXCEPT THAT YOU CONFIDENTLY BELIEVE MAN AND DOUBT GOD. Period, end of discussion. There literally is no debate, you CANNOT get anything other than a literal single day out of it, and more importantly there is no reason or need to. This whole thread now, which is 4 pages of complete nonsense, is a total straw man. Come on y'all, this is a matter of believe (or not) that Satan has dominion over this time. Of course he will teach anything and everything contradictory to scripture (it was his very first act with Eve). For Pete's sake, we still teach evolution in freakin' school as if there's no question about it. Nevermind that there has NEVER been ONE single piece of evidence to prove it the "theory", but every generation alive today has never been taught anything else. We were just in here having a friendly discussion about dinosaurs, and you totally killed the mood. You should be able to discuss your position without getting defensive and upset. I was willing to discuss dinosaurs and man with anyone that wanted to, but too many people on here get all pissy when you challenge what they believe (not necessarily directed just at you ikillbux).
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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09/19/17 02:18 AM
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You are correct he is not a man but he was not an angel/messenger. He was the anointed cherub and was adorned with jewels very similar to the high priests urim and thummim. If being adorned as a priest who was he a priest for? Why did he have a throne? What man has been cast out of heaven? What man has walked in the midst of the stones of fire? It is very clear that he was cast out before the recreation story.
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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09/19/17 02:43 AM
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I don't believe YOU translate scripture, I believe the Holy Spirit illuminates it to you, and He isn't going to show you one thing and me another.
You must have missed the other religious threads of past debates Not hardly, all 5,000 of them annoyed me as bad as this one. And the same problem with all those arguments is/was the same problem with this. The REAL problem isn't whether or not dinosaurs lived. There is ZERO reason why it's necessary to believe in millions of years, it is not needed for ANYTHING else in scripture. You have no need for millions of years, nor some fantasy existence prior to Adam EXCEPT THAT YOU CONFIDENTLY BELIEVE MAN AND DOUBT GOD. Period, end of discussion. There literally is no debate, you CANNOT get anything other than a literal single day out of it, and more importantly there is no reason or need to. This whole thread now, which is 4 pages of complete nonsense, is a total straw man. Come on y'all, this is a matter of believe (or not) that Satan has dominion over this time. Of course he will teach anything and everything contradictory to scripture (it was his very first act with Eve). For Pete's sake, we still teach evolution in freakin' school as if there's no question about it. Nevermind that there has NEVER been ONE single piece of evidence to prove it the "theory", but every generation alive today has never been taught anything else. We were just in here having a friendly discussion about dinosaurs, and you totally killed the mood. You should be able to discuss your position without getting defensive and upset. I was willing to discuss dinosaurs and man with anyone that wanted to, but too many people on here get all pissy when you challenge what they believe (not necessarily directed just at you ikillbux). Ikr. Yeesh.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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09/19/17 02:50 AM
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I don't know the answers to the questions posed in here and no one else does. What I do know is that God is real and Jesus is his son who gave his life so that we may be washed clean of our sins. What I won't allow is questions to which no man knows the answer to sway my faith. There are answers that will explain everything, but it is just not in God's plan for us to know them now. There will come a time when every question that I ever had will be made clear, but then I will be standing in the presence of The Lord and the glory of it all will make the questions insignificant.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: jawbone]
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09/19/17 02:53 AM
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I don't know the answers to the questions posed in here and no one else does. What I do know is that God is real and Jesus is his son who gave his life so that we may be washed clean of our sins. What I won't allow is questions to which no man knows the answer to sway my faith. There are answers that will explain everything, but it is just not in God's plan for us to know them now. There will come a time when every question that I ever had will be made clear, but then I will be standing in the presence of The Lord and the glory of it all will make the questions insignificant. what I don't understand,.. Is how admitting dinosaurs were millions of years ago effects any of that. I don't see how it does. That has been my only point
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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09/19/17 02:55 AM
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Jawbone, you are 100% correct. All this wont matter when we get to stand before him and I look foreword to that day
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: Joe4majors]
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09/19/17 03:51 AM
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So everyone else is wrong when they have presented evidence that man and dinosaurs coexisted? You're welcome to provide evidence. But, as a scientist it gets old seeing stuff that's a complete lie and then other people buying into it simply because they don't know any better. Carbon dating can only be used to date things back to 40,000 years or so. No real scientist has ever claimed that carbon dating can date anything into the millions of years. Other radioactive isotopes, with longer half lives, are used for dating rocks containing dinosaur bones. Didn’t they use C12 to aid in dating with C14 because C12 is constant? I ask because I think I read where there are issues with C12. Mainly being doubt on whether or not the amount of C12 actually remained constant? If that is the case, it calls into question the dating methods used. I may be wrong on this and quite frankly, whether the earth is 6k years old or billions it doesn’t change my faith. Point is, I’m just posting this asking a serious question and 1) I don’t think this is the hill for Christians to die on and 2) it doesn’t invalidate the Bible.
I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There�s a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. � Ronald Reagan
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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09/19/17 03:56 AM
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I don't think any of this debate invalidates the Bible either but actually backs it up. Maybe unknown to some but it is a good history book too if you put it in chronological order
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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Anyone been? What say you? I don't agree that dinosaurs were on the Ark or that the earth is only 6000 yrs old. A day, a month a years are measurements made by man. A day for God could be a million man years. I do however believe the Bible and that God flooded the earth. Remember the KNOWN earth was only the Middle east, Asia and Europe. I'd love to see it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuGKl7lgh40 The real Ark? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IwXy9uEEQ0 Yes I have been. I took the entire family on the opening weekend. It was a fantastic trip. Highly recommended. Top 3 trips of all time for me and my wife. We also hit the creation museum while we were there. One day at the Ark, one day at the creation museum. Any questions?
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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