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Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: Atoler] #2229187
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
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Originally Posted By: TGbow
How much of a difference is there in time as far as setting up a light weight hang on compared to a climber?


None, with practice. Also, just as quiet when using screw in steps for me.


Not much of a time difference, but you will dang sure be sweating your azz off with the lockon route.

I tried the light weight lockon route with lonewolf sticks. Ended up going to the x stand. Way way better for in and out bow hunting, unless you're somewhere that doesn't have straight trees (the Midwest). X stand beats any lockon and sticks combo by 7 pounds or more, and it takes a heck of a lot less physical exertion. I prefer to bow hunt out of lockons, but I've finally realized that unless I'm headed to Kentucky, I need to just set them on pinch points and chase the acorns with a climber.


I sweat a lot when it's hot, anyway. However, I don't sweat anymore with a lock on than I do with a climber.

Just have to find what works for you and go with it.


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Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: TGbow] #2229212
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My experience over a span of about 25 years:

Loc-on-
1. Lots of work. Anybody that says they can do it quick is being dishonest. Lots of work. Did I say lots of work? LOL
Why anyone would take in a loc-on and steps/ladder the morning of the hunt is beyond me.
2. Tiny platform. If you can't pull your bow back from a seated position, or stand totally erect and pull it back without fear of losing your balance, do NOT use a loc on.
3. Absolutely limited. I don't hunt anywhere that the deer ALWAYS come within bow range of that tree, or at least where they do it for very long. Acorns go away, seasonal patterns move the deer, etc. Lots of work for a small window.
4. In the end I've just never had enough reward for the labor involved. I quit hanging them years and years ago.
5. There will ALWAYS be a huge hairy spider in a funnel web inside the tube against the tree. Good luck when you climb up there in the dark and see him crawl back down that tube, then you know you gotta sit on him all morning.
6. You WILL forget your seat cushion every time.
7. Lastly, they are lots of work.


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Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: TGbow] #2229239
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I've only used lock-on's a couple of times. Once I was in them, they were fine, but I absolutely HATE having to climb up climbing sticks. Being completely vertical instead of angled like a ladder....just don't care for it. Plus ever set I've ever used, the steps were way too far apart. If lock-on and climber are my only 2 choices, I'd say climber, especially if you're having to put it up/take it down every time.

I still prefer ladders over everything else though. 15' is about as high as I care to go.


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Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: ikillbux] #2229282
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Originally Posted By: ikillbux
My experience over a span of about 25 years:

Loc-on-
1. Lots of work. Anybody that says they can do it quick is being dishonest.


I can unpack a set of lone wolf sticks, get them up a tree about 20-22', hang my stand, and be pulling my bow up in under 5 minutes... I've timed it multiple times. Are you saying I'm a liar?

I use a climber for mobility, because it's lighter, and less physically demanding. It's tit for tat on time up the tree.

Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: Atoler] #2229287
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
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My experience over a span of about 25 years:

Loc-on-
1. Lots of work. Anybody that says they can do it quick is being dishonest.


I can unpack a set of lone wolf sticks, get them up a tree about 20-22', hang my stand, and be pulling my bow up in under 5 minutes... I've timed it multiple times. Are you saying I'm a liar?

I use a climber for mobility, because it's lighter, and less physically demanding. It's tit for tat on time up the tree.


I use to hang them with screw in steps the morning of my hunts. Once I left the ground, I didn't come down until my hunt was over. It wasn't enough difference in time to cuss a cat over.

I guess he's calling me a liar, as well.

I believe you Austin. thumbup


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Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: TGbow] #2229776
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I've seen it done pretty quick. But it takes practice and athleticism. It's not for everyone.


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On the distance I like to walk to my stands:
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Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: TGbow] #2229936
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Im personally all about loc ons and ladders. I hate using climbers and have sold any I owned.

I used to carry a pack with 10 strap on steps and an alumi lite loc on stand when I was younger.

5 minutes strapping on 8 steps to 10 steps and a stand. maybe 7 minutes tops.

Now days I set em up on active runs in funnels and pinch points, as well as on my food plots at home. But keep em there...with a lifeline attached.

I prefer ladders to loc ons, but loc ons to climbers.

I stalk into my sets..sneak up like a cat.

I hate the racket of those dang climbers..even my old summit which was the quietest I owned.

Heck Ive caught a few trespassers outfitting by HEARING them climb up in a climber near one of my sets when I snuck in and was sitting in it.

Just a matter of which works best for each individual I feel. and the older you get..the less likely youll want to pack in a climber. I sure dont.

Heck, I aint packing an alumi lite either. I set up me stands and leave em as Im too old to mess around like that in the dark now.

If I have to adjust due to movement I make my correction after a hunt and leave em at the new spot as well.

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Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: TGbow] #2229994
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I love hunting out of my summit titan and I hate hunting out of loc-ons much less packing one into the woods with me as a mobile setup. To each their own.

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Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: TGbow] #2230059
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If I had my own land or was in a club I'd have ladderstands in the hot spots.
But hunting by myself most of the time ladders might be a booger to move if I need to relocate them, sure dont want to pack on one in and out..lol

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Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: ] #2230483
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Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Im personally all about loc ons and ladders. I hate using climbers and have sold any I owned.


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Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: TGbow] #2230507
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I think my biggest problem is I don't think I could trust a linemans belt while hanging stands.
I think climbing into a lock on stand that has a lifeline with a prussic knot would be fine for me.
When I use to use a climber I would move the tree strap up as I climbed so I was hooked up the whole time.
It's a mental thing with me

Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: TGbow] #2230516
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I can sit waaaaaay longer in a good climber

Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: TGbow] #2230545
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The Millenium M7 looks like it would be a good mobil stand for packing in and out.

Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: TGbow] #2230624
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started hunting out of lock ons about 5 years ago when i really started to bowhunt. I don't pack them in and out though. it takes me about 30 minutes realistically to hang a lock on. i do however second using the lifelines. the peace of mind i get knowing I'm hooked up from the minute i leave the ground is a must for me in a lock on.

Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: TGbow] #2231352
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I'm like a cross between a cat and a monkey in a tree, and y'all crazy as bat@#$#@ about taking in steps (or dang sure sticks) and a loc-on on the day of your hunt!!!! rofl

CAN I put one up in a fast time?...I suppose. But why? The point of a loc-on is to not have to carry a stand and climb the tree every time. (Or in rare cases because there isn't a tree to climb) I ain't saying y'all is lyin', just crazy as heck! grin

I reckon I don't like to work like a jobu just to sit low to the ground on a plate-sized platform. If I was purposefully working fast, in the DAYLIGHT mind you, just simply to be timed on hanging a stand, I'd say 20/30 minutes tops. But I guess some folks think I'm nuts for putting the climber on my back and walking a mile up and down ridges. crazy

Oh, and of my list of reasons against loc-ons, THAT'S the one y'all took notice of???? Not the spider????

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Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: ikillbux] #2231400
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Originally Posted By: ikillbux
Oh, and of my list of reasons against loc-ons, THAT'S the one y'all took notice of???? Not the spider????


I'm not a female, so I wasn't worried about the spider.


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Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: N2TRKYS] #2231647
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
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Oh, and of my list of reasons against loc-ons, THAT'S the one y'all took notice of???? Not the spider????


I'm not a female, so I wasn't worried about the spider.


laugh grin Yeah, you crazy! I'll hurt everybody in the room over a spider.


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Originally Posted By: ikillbux
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Oh, and of my list of reasons against loc-ons, THAT'S the one y'all took notice of???? Not the spider????


I'm not a female, so I wasn't worried about the spider.


laugh grin Yeah, you crazy! I'll hurt everybody in the room over a spider.


Lol. I've got a buddy that feels the same way about midgets.


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Re: Climber VS Hang on Stand [Re: TGbow] #2232184
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I was a die hard loc-on guy for years but have reverted back to climbers (specifically Summit Vipers). I have several that I will hang on trees and leave out much of the season on private land. I do remove the seat so squirrels won't chew it up and I have a dry seat.

For me personally I would hang a loc-on and find myself reluctant to move it during the season because of noise, scent, the work involved etc... With climbers I will leave one in a general area and can relocate daily if conditions warrant. I'm sure some will disagree but I feel safer in a climber because I didn't use lifelines with loc-ons but always strap myself to the tree before going up in a climber.

No right or wrong answer if your area is conducive to either type of stand. Really comes down to personal preference.

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I've prolly hunted 90% out of loc-ons over the years. I have climbed into a loc-on and seen deer as I reached the stand that are undisturbed by my silent climb. You cannot do that with ANY climber. And a loc-on will go in a heck of a lot more trees than any climber will.

I use a climber when hunting a new area to decide where to put a loc-on. I rarely move a loc-on in season, just put another one up. I've prollly got 30+ loc-ons and three climbers.


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