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Re: Trophy Rock Grow
[Re: AU338MAG]
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09/16/17 02:43 AM
09/16/17 02:43 AM
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No legitimate study has ever shown that these mineral supplements will improve herd health or antler scores.
A fool and his money are soon parted... Who said anything about increasing antler size and improving herd health? Feel free to call me a fool for spending $20 on a maintenance-free attractant that brings multiple deer onto the property I hunt at some point every day for several months of the year. There are plenty of people on here that have first hand experience with deer preferring plots, or portions of plots, that have been fertilized with basic macronutrients (N-P-K). I am game for a low-cost experiment to see if micronutrient addition makes any noticeable difference (health of plot, attraction to deer, etc.)
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Re: Trophy Rock Grow
[Re: Joe4majors]
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09/16/17 02:45 AM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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I would want to know more about this stuff before just throwing out blindly. What's it actually doing? Is the soil deficient in something it needs?
The Corn Crash!!!
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Re: Trophy Rock Grow
[Re: Joe4majors]
#2227551
09/16/17 07:00 AM
09/16/17 07:00 AM
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Posts: 21,543 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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From the best I can tell so far…..the sea 90 is mostly a lot of trace elements and microbes. I’m betting that the addition of the microbes is what is making his fields look good. They play a huge role in the exchange of water and nutrients and our traditional methods of heavy tillage badly decreases their numbers.
The Corn Crash!!!
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Re: Trophy Rock Grow
[Re: CNC]
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09/17/17 09:54 AM
09/17/17 09:54 AM
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Joe4majors
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From the best I can tell so far…..the sea 90 is mostly a lot of trace elements and microbes. I’m betting that the addition of the microbes is what is making his fields look good. They play a huge role in the exchange of water and nutrients and our traditional methods of heavy tillage badly decreases their numbers. Where are you seeing Sea 90 having microbes? All I have run across is the trace elements help to "re-mineralize the soil" and enhance microbes that are already in place. As far as what is the soil deficient of, I would guess the standard soil test will not give you enough data to work with (no trace element data). Besides, I'd guess it's probably not readily available to know what trace elements benefit the wide variety of plants we plant in the fall.
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Re: Trophy Rock Grow
[Re: Joe4majors]
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09/17/17 11:05 AM
09/17/17 11:05 AM
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Posts: 21,543 Awbarn, AL
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Dances With Weeds
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From the best I can tell so far…..the sea 90 is mostly a lot of trace elements and microbes. I’m betting that the addition of the microbes is what is making his fields look good. They play a huge role in the exchange of water and nutrients and our traditional methods of heavy tillage badly decreases their numbers. Where are you seeing Sea 90 having microbes? All I have run across is the trace elements help to "re-mineralize the soil" and enhance microbes that are already in place. As far as what is the soil deficient of, I would guess the standard soil test will not give you enough data to work with (no trace element data). Besides, I'd guess it's probably not readily available to know what trace elements benefit the wide variety of plants we plant in the fall. I ran across several statements like the one in this link…..I still don’t feel 100% sure though to be honest. https://www.fedcoseeds.com/ogs/?item=8238
The Corn Crash!!!
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Re: Trophy Rock Grow
[Re: CNC]
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09/17/17 11:33 AM
09/17/17 11:33 AM
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Joe4majors
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From the best I can tell so far…..the sea 90 is mostly a lot of trace elements and microbes. I’m betting that the addition of the microbes is what is making his fields look good. They play a huge role in the exchange of water and nutrients and our traditional methods of heavy tillage badly decreases their numbers. Where are you seeing Sea 90 having microbes? All I have run across is the trace elements help to "re-mineralize the soil" and enhance microbes that are already in place. As far as what is the soil deficient of, I would guess the standard soil test will not give you enough data to work with (no trace element data). Besides, I'd guess it's probably not readily available to know what trace elements benefit the wide variety of plants we plant in the fall. I ran across several statements like the one in this link…..I still don’t feel 100% sure though to be honest. https://www.fedcoseeds.com/ogs/?item=8238 Yeah, I don't know either.
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Re: Trophy Rock Grow
[Re: CNC]
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09/18/17 11:25 AM
09/18/17 11:25 AM
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Posts: 2,685 West Florida
westflgator
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I would want to know more about this stuff before just throwing out blindly. What's it actually doing? Is the soil deficient in something it needs? Yes, most soils are deficient. Soils need at least 52 minerals to be healthy (some say they need close to 100) and most folks are only putting back 3 or 4 of those. The minerals feed the microbes in the soil which then process these minerals and make them available for the plants to utilize. The raw milk is also a perfect food source for the microbes. Traditional farming as we know it is starting to swing back to what the old time farmers knew. They knew that if you wanted healthy crops then you need to feed the critters beneath the soil. CNC is on the right track by building up the soil through no-till type practices. Add the minerals and you will be ramping up your process 10 fold. Don't take my word for it there is plenty of research out there on this subject...However, as Timbercruiser pointed out it has worked very well for me, and it's very inexpensive compared to traditional practices. Here are a couple of videos that break down both of these principles. When you put them together they really compliment each other, No-till and Sea90. The one video also gets into what it means to raise your BRIX (soluble sugar content). The high sugar content along with the additional minerals is why the wildlife love the crops grown in this fashion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWXCLVCJWTU&t=6shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4EfqNK-i0E
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Re: Trophy Rock Grow
[Re: Forrestgump1]
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09/25/17 02:04 AM
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Im confused. I thought that sodium bicarbonate ( salt) is a prime ingredient in killing plants? Sodium bicarbonate is NOT salt. Sodium Chloride IS salt. Sodium Bicarbonate is BAKING SODA. Which is essentially a buffer and turns ph to neutral. Sodium Carbonate is washing soda. Now what that does to plants I don't know.
Last edited by Cactus_buck; 09/25/17 02:07 AM.
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Re: Trophy Rock Grow
[Re: Cactus_buck]
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09/25/17 07:44 AM
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Joe4majors
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Im confused. I thought that sodium bicarbonate ( salt) is a prime ingredient in killing plants? Sodium bicarbonate is NOT salt. Sodium Chloride IS salt. Sodium Bicarbonate is BAKING SODA. Which is essentially a buffer and turns ph to neutral. Sodium Carbonate is washing soda. Now what that does to plants I don't know. Yes, sodium chloride is a table salt, but sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) is a type of salt too. Seems there are some articles online talking about using baking soda to kill weeds/grass. My guess it's all about how concentrated the application is and the general idea here is to add trace amounts of certain elements back to the soil.
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Re: Trophy Rock Grow
[Re: Joe4majors]
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09/25/17 03:39 PM
09/25/17 03:39 PM
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Waldo
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Sodium bicarbonate is a salt. You don't want to much of it.
It raises your pH and makes nutrients unavailable to plants just like acids do by lowering your pH.
It will also seal off your upper soil layer where water cannot penetrate.
Last edited by Waldo; 09/25/17 03:41 PM.
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