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Trophy Rock Grow #2224794
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Trophy Rock Grow is a new product from Trophy Rock that is to be spread onto a plot just like you would fertilizer.

I've thought about doing this with their FOUR 65 (crushed Trophy Rock). Would have been a relatively cheap experiment for a single acre, but never got around to doing it. Looks like they are coming out with a plot additive to try to get the trace elements to deer in areas where mineral sites have been banned (CWD). Fast-forward to about the 5-minute mark to see a little discussion about the product available January 1st. Yes, I know there are other sources for minerals that don't have a buck on the bag, but what do y'all think of the idea in general.


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Probably same thing as sea salt minerals.

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Those "giant deer" people sit around the campfires in their 5,000 acre high fence pens and dream up ways to get your money.

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Originally Posted By: blumsden
Probably same thing as sea salt minerals.


Very true. How hard is it to find sea salt minerals? I don't believe I have seen it in person, but could be easy to find and I just haven't looked hard enough.

Re: Trophy Rock Grow [Re: Joe4majors] #2225301
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Redmond (which I believe is same company as Trophy Rock) has a bag of salt mineral product they recommend be broadcast in food plots. Plants are supposed to uptake the minerals and provide them to the deer. Salt on plants hasn't been one of the things usually done.

Why broadcast it instead of creating a lick out of it? Deer lick and eat dirt with minerals in it or eat plants with minerals in it. Where's the beneficial difference to counter the build up of salts in plot soil over time?


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Originally Posted By: CatHeadBiscuit
Redmond (which I believe is same company as Trophy Rock) has a bag of salt mineral product they recommend be broadcast in food plots. Plants are supposed to uptake the minerals and provide them to the deer. Salt on plants hasn't been one of the things usually done.

Why broadcast it instead of creating a lick out of it? Deer lick and eat dirt with minerals in it or eat plants with minerals in it. Where's the beneficial difference to counter the build up of salts in plot soil over time?


You can't legally have mineral sites in some areas now, so this is plan B.

I also wondered if the salts would be enough to do more harm than good on a plot.

I have mineral sites and don't plan on changing that. Just brainstorming.

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The statements on Redmonds website about putting their mineral on fields got me curious too. But the 93% salt thing gives me pause


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"Many other salts use chemical processes ( bleaching, kiln dried, or adding anti caking agents) that strip trace minerals from the salt. Without these minerals sodium chloride is a toxic substance but when left whole (with the valuable trace minerals intact) salt becomes life sustaining."
Redmond website

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Interesting, thanks.

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No Way I'd spread salt on an area I wanted to grow stuff.

Thinking back to Western Civilization in college, I remember hearing about how the victors of a war would "salt the fields" of the losers to render their fields impotent and useless. Who knows.

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Re: Trophy Rock Grow [Re: Joe4majors] #2225441
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Im confused. I thought that sodium bicarbonate ( salt) is a prime ingredient in killing plants?

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Sea 90 is designed to be spread on plots. I've spread some on mine. People dissolve it in water and spray it on their pastures and food plots. A guy up the road from me is a distributor and uses it on his farm, and swears by it. 50 lbs mixed with water does like 10 acres, or you use it dry at 50lbs/acre. Somebody on here uses it all the time, but I can't remember who.

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It would have to be reall good for $50 a bag.


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Almost all your fertilizer is a type of salt. All life needs some salt to grow.

It's just different types of salt and different concentrations that affect the plants positively and negatively.

Sodium bicarbonate is a negative factor on plants in high concentrations. But not all salt is Sodium bicarbonate.

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The Sea 90 is $30/bag.

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Who carries the Sea 90 in Jacksonville?

I have only seen where you can get it online.

I think West Fl gator has used this.

He also composted his on tea which is more than I have the time or resources for.

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John Lyons 256-282-3232. And yes, it was Westflgator.

Re: Trophy Rock Grow [Re: Joe4majors] #2225617
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There are 5 stores in Tuscaloosa alone that sell Trophy Rock. Maybe one of those will sell this new product once it is available in January. $30 per acre isn't terrible.

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I have plenty of salt for $9 a 40# bag. Quick dissolve to. Will mix real easy in water for your sprayer. Deer love it. If you are interested shoot me a pm and I will cut you in on this deal.


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Re: Trophy Rock Grow [Re: Joe4majors] #2226798
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No legitimate study has ever shown that these mineral supplements will improve herd health or antler scores.

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