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Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: N2TRKYS] #2223923
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
It got in my way a lot. I couldn't get use to it.


Guess that means I'd like it then. laugh


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Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: Shaw] #2223931
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Originally Posted By: Shaw

Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
It got in my way a lot. I couldn't get use to it.


Guess that means I'd like it then. laugh


Yep. Reverse approval. Lol


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Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: headshot] #2223957
09/12/17 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: headshot
These are ok to use. but, you guys really need to practice flipping your self back upright. trust me, if you get flipped upside down, sometimes its not easy to get turned back upright.Especially if you are injured!!!


I'm curious if it's a chance of ending up being upside down if you were to fall.

Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: clarkdeer] #2223976
09/12/17 12:50 PM
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Well the way they are made itd be hard to get turned upside down on account of the fact that they basically pivot your legs downward. Your leg would have to get caught or something but then that kinda falls under the same circumstances as pretty much any other harness. I dont think its anymore of an issue than anything else. If you sit in one and let it carry your weight youll see what im talkin about.


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Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: clarkdeer] #2224018
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I've never used a RC harness but from what I can tell, I'd rather be suspended in a RC harness vs a FB harness.
It dont take long to have circulation issues with a FB harness.
No big deal if there's somebody around to rescue you but that's not usually the case in a hunting situation.
I wear a FB harness at work every day...done some experimenting with it and I wouldn't want to be hanging in it very long.

Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: clarkdeer] #2224114
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Everyone's first reaction when Rock climbing harnesses comes up is the issue of becoming inverted. it was mine too the first time I heard about it. But if you've ever spent any time in one you'll realize that it's pretty difficult to get inverted in one. I mean, you'd have to actively try to get inverted and then it's going to try to flip you back upright whether you want to or not.

And yes, the suspension trauma was the reason I made the switch. Where I hunt if I fall and cannot self-rescue, it may be hours before someone can get to me. In a traditional harness, suspension trauma can be an issue in a matter of minutes. A RC harness on the other hand was designed for you to be able to hang in it indefinitely. It doesn't put pressure on the femoral arteries.

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Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: clarkdeer] #2224115
09/12/17 02:32 PM
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I ordered it with a 75cm dynaclip. I plan on using that with the hss tree strap with my climber. And I have life lines on all my hangons. I've been reading a lot and watching some videos. It seems that most that try them really like them.



Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: clarkdeer] #2224119
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90% of everbody I've read on the internet that switched said they wont go back.

Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: clarkdeer] #2224727
09/13/17 06:36 AM
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GomerPyle, how are you rigged up as far as attaching the belt to the HSS tree strap?

Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: spagency] #2224781
09/13/17 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: spagency
GomerPyle, how are you rigged up as far as attaching the belt to the HSS tree strap?


the tree strap has a carabiner hooked to the end of it, via a prussic knot so you can slide it up/down the rope to adjust the length....hook it straight into the attachment point on the harness.



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Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: clarkdeer] #2224864
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I'm curious, is it possible to hang climbing sticks with a RC harness using the tree rope instead of a linemans belt?

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Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: clarkdeer] #2224891
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Possible, but not efficient. All you need is some loops tied or sewn on like what I have pictured on page 1. I use the same rope for both, using the prussic knot to adjust as a linemans rope.

Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: clarkdeer] #2224999
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Thanks

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Originally Posted By: spagency
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Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: clarkdeer] #2238830
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I've been using one for a couple of years now. Wish I had switched a long time ago.

Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: clarkdeer] #2239399
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I'm curious, with the RC harness are you able to lean forward at all?

Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: clarkdeer] #2239463
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My harness has a load bearing loop in the back like the front. I climb with the front loop then switch it when ive settled in my stand. I keep my lanyard at a level on the tree where when i sit it has a slight amount of tension so if something happened id only fall a few inches and when i stand theres about 10 inches of slack. With the lanyard hooked in the back i can lean just over center and if necessary make a near straight down shot all the while having full range of motion and total left to right mobility and still have a very short drop if my stand failed for some reason or i slipped by chance. But id never fall past my platform or my climbing stick. Ive practiced several scenarios including basically jumping off the stand(while attached and only abou 10ft high). If a harness has the loop in the back there should be is a kilanewton rating and i belive mine is 7 i dont think they make them less than 5 and that is plenty. I climb a differnt way than most so ive put alot of time and practice into it to make sure its safe. Its important to note as well i always put my lanyard above my ez hanger so it never slides down thus lengthening my fall distance. Even if you wer to fall the full length of my attached lanyard which is about 26in youd be fine,aggravated and unerved but fine. Itd probly put the squeeze on tha boys as well but all harnesses will do that. Most important thing of all: buy a harness that fits you well, try and find somewhere that sells them and try one on.


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Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: CarbonClimber1] #2239466
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Originally Posted By: CarbonClimber1
My harness has a load bearing loop in the back like the front. I climb with the front loop then switch it when ive settled in my stand. I keep my lanyard at a level on the tree where when i sit it has a slight amount of tension so if something happened id only fall a few inches and when i stand theres about 10 inches of slack. With the lanyard hooked in the back i can lean just over center and if necessary make a near straight down shot all the while having full range of motion and total left to right mobility and still have a very short drop if my stand failed for some reason or i slipped by chance. But id never fall past my platform or my climbing stick. Ive practiced several scenarios including basically jumping off the stand(while attached and only abou 10ft high). If a harness has the loop in the back there should be is a kilanewton rating and i belive mine is 7 i dont think they make them less than 5 and that is plenty. I climb a differnt way than most so ive put alot of time and practice into it to make sure its safe. Its important to note as well i always put my lanyard above my ez hanger so it never slides down thus lengthening my fall distance. Even if you wer to fall the full length of my attached lanyard which is about 26in youd be fine,aggravated and unerved but fine. Itd probly put the squeeze on tha boys as well but all harnesses will do that. Most important thing of all: buy a harness that fits you well, try and find somewhere that sells them and try one on.


Load bearing means the back loop is rated the same as the front belay?

Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: CarbonClimber1] #2239555
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Originally Posted By: CarbonClimber1
My harness has a load bearing loop in the back like the front. I climb with the front loop then switch it when ive settled in my stand. I keep my lanyard at a level on the tree where when i sit it has a slight amount of tension so if something happened id only fall a few inches and when i stand theres about 10 inches of slack. With the lanyard hooked in the back i can lean just over center and if necessary make a near straight down shot all the while having full range of motion and total left to right mobility and still have a very short drop if my stand failed for some reason or i slipped by chance. But id never fall past my platform or my climbing stick. Ive practiced several scenarios including basically jumping off the stand(while attached and only abou 10ft high). If a harness has the loop in the back there should be is a kilanewton rating and i belive mine is 7 i dont think they make them less than 5 and that is plenty. I climb a differnt way than most so ive put alot of time and practice into it to make sure its safe. Its important to note as well i always put my lanyard above my ez hanger so it never slides down thus lengthening my fall distance. Even if you wer to fall the full length of my attached lanyard which is about 26in youd be fine,aggravated and unerved but fine. Itd probly put the squeeze on tha boys as well but all harnesses will do that. Most important thing of all: buy a harness that fits you well, try and find somewhere that sells them and try one on.


Which harness do you have? I've been wanting to make the switch but I wanted one with the loop in the back. I didn't know if they all had this or only certain ones.

Re: Rock climbing harness [Re: clarkdeer] #2239568
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Mine is one of the cheaper black diamonds but 1 step up from their cheapest model. I forget what it was called but it is grey in color and cost about $60. As for the loop id have to look im not sure if they are both the same. Same thickness,stitching, and material front and back tho so i believe they are the same but ill have to confirm that


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