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Apparently ,I'm flat out unreasonable... #2208597
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Called a fella about a turkey membership off Craigslist . When he informed me that I would probably be the 6th hunter on 1800 acres I said " no thanks, was really looking for sole turkey rights ". His add was for 2 turkey members at 450 each. I was hoping I could just buy both and have it all but like most things, if it's too good to be true itt usually is..

He kinda chuckled when I said I wanted sole rights. he said "good luck finding that, thats just unreasonable lol.

He doesn't know how bad I have it .


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Re: Apparently ,I'm flat out unreasonable... [Re: Surefire1911] #2208640
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I don't know why it would be unreasonable. If I could find it I would do the same.


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Re: Apparently ,I'm flat out unreasonable... [Re: Surefire1911] #2208835
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Hell if it ain't what you want, don't buy it. There is nothing unreasonable about that.


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Re: Apparently ,I'm flat out unreasonable... [Re: Surefire1911] #2209026
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Should have told him next year you'd like sole rights for $2500 and he wouldn't have to fool with 5 other folks. Seems like that would have been reasonable enough for him to consider.

Re: Apparently ,I'm flat out unreasonable... [Re: Surefire1911] #2209093
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Might get interesting when 5 or 6 people show up on a two membership lease.


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Re: Apparently ,I'm flat out unreasonable... [Re: Surefire1911] #2209214
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The way I took the whole conversation was that he thought it was just crazy to think that one guy could hunt the place, like that never happens anywhere.

I suspect his guys arent as ate up as a lot of us are lol.


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Re: Apparently ,I'm flat out unreasonable... [Re: Surefire1911] #2209600
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Re: Apparently ,I'm flat out unreasonable... [Re: Surefire1911] #2209937
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Originally Posted By: Surefire1911
The way I took the whole conversation was that he thought it was just crazy to think that one guy could hunt the place, like that never happens anywhere.

I suspect his guys arent as ate up as a lot of us are lol.


This is what I took it also. Most deer hunters seems to think its acceptable for 8-10 people on that amount of land. Most just dont realize how much ground alot of us can cover and not wanting to intrude or be intruded upon.

Its almost always " We have a few turkey hunters" which means in my minds is to many. If they say " No one turkey hunts this place" then I expect a few. lol

I have been fortunate to find some properties that usually only get hunted by poachers. Dont know that I ever found a property that wasn't turkey hunted by someone, legally or not.


Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
Re: Apparently ,I'm flat out unreasonable... [Re: Surefire1911] #2210785
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At least you tried. Keep looking, most deer hunters have no clue of what turkey hunting is really like.


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Re: Apparently ,I'm flat out unreasonable... [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2210863
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Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
At least you tried. Keep looking, most deer hunters have no clue of what turkey hunting is really like.

True statement right there. I had no idea until this past year. I usually spend summer looking for new deer land to hunt. This year I've been looking for turkey land. HARD.


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Re: Apparently ,I'm flat out unreasonable... [Re: Surefire1911] #2210941
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I know more is always better but realistically why does a turkey hunter need that much land. I only have 320 acres and there have been 3-4 gobblers a year taken off it for years.They may not be gobbling but there are always birds on the place.

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Originally Posted By: BradB
I know more is always better but realistically why does a turkey hunter need that much land. I only have 320 acres and there have been 3-4 gobblers a year taken off it for years.They may not be gobbling but there are always birds on the place.
when multiple hunters move in on the same birds, things get really boogered up and crowded quickly... nothing like sitting on a bird working just right and some jackleg busts in to your set up and ruins your hunt and spooks the turkeys to the next county..


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Re: Apparently ,I'm flat out unreasonable... [Re: Surefire1911] #2210999
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That I can see as a problem. I never have to deal with other hunters and had not thought about that.

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Originally Posted By: BradB
I know more is always better but realistically why does a turkey hunter need that much land. I only have 320 acres and there have been 3-4 gobblers a year taken off it for years.They may not be gobbling but there are always birds on the place.


Not saying I need that much land (would be nice though!) just the fact of having multiple hunters on one tract can be problematic. In this particular instance, I thought the guy wanted to have 2 total so I tried to get both which seemed reasonable the way he worded the post. Didn't know he had 5 others that deer AND turkey hunt already.

He sounded blown away that I would even suggest one hunter for It. . Heck I know I can cover several hundred acres a day chasing birds. He's to much of a deer hunter to understand.


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Originally Posted By: Bustinbeards
Originally Posted By: BradB
I know more is always better but realistically why does a turkey hunter need that much land. I only have 320 acres and there have been 3-4 gobblers a year taken off it for years.They may not be gobbling but there are always birds on the place.
when multiple hunters move in on the same birds, things get really boogered up and crowded quickly... nothing like sitting on a bird working just right and some jackleg busts in to your set up and ruins your hunt and spooks the turkeys to the next county..


Yep, and I was "that guy" this year. Got permission to hunt 500 acres, landowner didn't hunt turkeys. Well he gave another guy permission too. I saw a dark sillouhette at 5:45am and knew what was up. He looked like his dog died, and I had killed it!

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Originally Posted By: BradB
I know more is always better but realistically why does a turkey hunter need that much land. I only have 320 acres and there have been 3-4 gobblers a year taken off it for years.They may not be gobbling but there are always birds on the place.


The more land the better when turkey hunting,more land = more birds to hunt

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Originally Posted By: Bustinbeards
Originally Posted By: BradB
I know more is always better but realistically why does a turkey hunter need that much land. I only have 320 acres and there have been 3-4 gobblers a year taken off it for years.They may not be gobbling but there are always birds on the place.
when multiple hunters move in on the same birds, things get really boogered up and crowded quickly... nothing like sitting on a bird working just right and some jackleg busts in to your set up and ruins your hunt and spooks the turkeys to the next county..


When birds are not gobbling you cover ground to find one. A turkey hunter can cover 300 acres in an hour or so, especially if running and gunning. Sure you can sit on a green field on 20 acres and wait on one to walk by but where's the fun in that?

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Originally Posted By: BradB
I know more is always better but realistically why does a turkey hunter need that much land. I only have 320 acres and there have been 3-4 gobblers a year taken off it for years.They may not be gobbling but there are always birds on the place.


A. Most leases, specifically timber company, half or more is useless to hunt.
B. If you hunt a lot, you will burn out that 320 in no time. I can cover that much by 9am.
C. Your chances of killing a limit, specifically a limit of birds that gobbled, is about zero on that much land.

We could take a poll, and I'd almost garuntee you that everyone on this website who killed 5 or more birds last year, had access to over 1000 acres.

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Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: BradB
I know more is always better but realistically why does a turkey hunter need that much land. I only have 320 acres and there have been 3-4 gobblers a year taken off it for years.They may not be gobbling but there are always birds on the place.


A. Most leases, specifically timber company, half or more is useless to hunt.
B. If you hunt a lot, you will burn out that 320 in no time. I can cover that much by 9am.
C. Your chances of killing a limit, specifically a limit of birds that gobbled, is about zero on that much land.

We could take a poll, and I'd almost garuntee you that everyone on this website who killed 5 or more birds last year, had access to over 1000 acres.


All true. If you only get to hunt weekends, and are careful to not spook your turkeys, 320 acres could be enough for one man to hunt the season and have quality hunting, provided there is a good turkey population in the area. Being limited to that much timber company land would not be much fun.

But people that don't turkey hunt have trouble understanding that. I once found an add on eBay for a GA turkey hunt for $100 a day. The guy had 500 acres, but 450 was open field. The 50 acres of woods was just a narrow border around the open land. It was in a good area, so I called the guy and told him I wanted to hunt it the next Saturday and he agreed.

I asked if I would be the only one on the place that day, and he said nobody else had signed up yet, but I didn't have to worry - he assured me he would not allow more than 6 hunters on the place at once. I thought at first he was joking, but he went on to explain that he had 6 deer stands on the place and they had all been occupied at one time often, and never had problem. I tried to explain that turkey hunting wasn't like that; when a turkey gobbled all 6 hunters would surround him and it would be all sorts of dangerous.

He wouldn't budge; said I was welcome to hunt but the add would stay up. I called him back Thursday night and asked if anyone else was coming, and he said nobody so far, but he wouldn't turn anyone away. I took a chance and went. Killed a turkey a few minutes after daylight, and left several others gobbling.

I offered him $1000 for the turkey rights for the next season, and I thought he was gonna take it. He only had 2 hunters the year I went, so he only made $200. Few hunters were willing to risk such an insane hunting plan. He told me to let him think about it and to call him back the next day. He never answered the phone again, despite me leaving several messages.

Just expect that non turkey hunters are not gonna get it.

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Re: Apparently ,I'm flat out unreasonable... [Re: Surefire1911] #2212314
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I don't know how much land would be too much for turkey hunting? I wish I could be lucky enough to figure that out.

I have permission to hunt a total of about 2,400 acres. Some is in Crenshaw county, some is in Pike county and some is in Covington county. About 850 acres is part of my deer lease and a couple others also turkey hunt, and the turkey hunting is decent at best. I believe I only hunted there 2 times last year. Another tract of 300 acres is pretty hit or miss, sometimes there is a gobbling bird sometimes not. I only have permission to turkey hunt this place and have only had permission for 2 years, I hope to kill my first bird on it next year. Another 600 acres I picked up this past year, I heard a total of (1) gobbler on this tract and he was across the property line. I almost got him one morning, maybe next year.

The Covington county land has been off the past couple years. It used to be LOADED with birds, but not lately. Maybe next year.

Most of the rest is at my house. Most years there are a few gobblers around. I have never killed more than 2 a year there in an attempt to keep them around.

I have one tract of about 130 acres that is truly awesome, almost as good as the Covington county land used to be. Its very rare to not hear a gobble on this tract. If all of the tracts were anywhere near as productive as this one, I could limit out pretty easily.

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