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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219448
11/14/11 03:01 PM
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Good thing you're not a voter ;D

What if, just for shizngiggles, LSU had beaten Alabama by 10 or 12 points.

What if Alabama fell to No. 4 or 5 behind some unbeatens. LSU beats Arkansas and remains No. 1 with an unblemished record. They're waiting with boudin and Dixie in hand at the Dome on Jan. 10.

Somehow, the other unbeatens all get beaten. There aren't any unbeatens and all of them lost by anywhere between 8-12 points ... just like Alabama.

Except for one unbeaten ... Toledo. They've played 11 Division 1 teams and one 1-AA team, just like everyone else does. They've beaten everyone from 1 point in a close game to six touchdowns in their biggest blowout. They are the 1984 BYU of today's time.

Who plays LSU?

A 1-loss team that lost by double digits, or the undefeated Toledo team that did everything asked of it by the system?


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219450
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I thought the 2005 game was pretty good, too.


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219459
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What if there were 17 undefeated teams? I'd have a headache trying to figure out who to give my imaginary vote to.


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219465
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But I'll answer the question...

I'd try to find the best one loss team and vote them #2. I'd take Bama, Oklahoma, Oregon, Stanford and Arky out of it because of the reasons I mentioned. Looks like I'd have LSU playing the Clemson/Va Tech winner. I don't even know the scores of their losses. I'm such a bad voter...


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219494
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Hypothetically, if I had a vote on who the worst imaginary voter is, I'd vote for Brent.


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219513
11/14/11 04:36 PM
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As far as I know Div 1 football is the only sport that doesn't use a playoff of some form to determine the champion. Either an 8 team or 16 team playoff would cover all the teams that have a legitimate claim to be considered. In a 16 team playoff the first matchup could be held at the field of the highest rated team in mid Dec. Then the bowls could take up the matchups with the Sugar, Fiesta, Rose and Orange getting the championship game every 4 years. Bowl games aren't played on New Years day anyway like they use to. New contracts and a lot more money could be made.

Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219538
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I read all the posts in this thread, and I still don't like Craig James.

Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219576
11/14/11 05:57 PM
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Brent, unfortunately that's part of the fallacy of the old voting system still used in concert with the BCS computer rankings.

How do you determine the best one-loss team, if there are no undefeateds or only one? By points? Strength of schedule? It's a pretty tough chore, as you noted.

Here's another problem with the voting system: most of the sportswriters who vote are working on Saturdays. They see the polls, see snippets of a game and are trying to keep up with the game in front of them to write about. They may get through in mid-afternoon and then try to go home, or work late at night and get finished after a late game. Or there may be a ranked team playing late on the West Coast while they're driving or at the hotel, and they don't see the game.

They have to go by score and highlights ... neither of which may yield a positive result to the entire game. It was a 10-7 win? Damn! No offense from Powerhouse State! I may need to vote them down ... although it could have been a monstrous defensive struggle and a really good game.

Popularity, unfortunately, also plays a big role ... Coach X is a spazbutt and I don't like him, so I'll vote for Team Y because I know a guy who dates a cheerleader there and they're a good team. It shouldn't be that way and probably 99 percent of the time it's not, but it could be and probably has been a factor at some time.

Aggravating in this day and time to have so many possibilities for a playoff based on wins-losses like in the lower levels, but money and TV ratings overpower that for D-I.


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219752
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I wouldn't care as long as they keep Napa commercials out of the breaks...


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219920
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Originally Posted By: CSCURTISS
Originally Posted By: burbank
a really good UGA team


Now that's funny...


Would you rather play south carolina or uga?

Uga has top sec talent and is peaking at the right time.

Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219932
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Those NAPA and Dairy Queen commercials suck.


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219934
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Na na na na na napa know how!!!!!!!

Re: Craig James Is High [Re: Clem] #219957
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Originally Posted By: Clem
Those NAPA and Dairy Queen commercials suck.


I could watch the 5-hour energy commercial on auto-repeat. The brunette is smoking-hot:



...I'm a sucker for brunettes.


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: burbank] #220011
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The ATL, Hunting Bullock Count...
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Originally Posted By: burbank
Originally Posted By: CSCURTISS
Originally Posted By: burbank
a really good UGA team


Now that's funny...


Would you rather play south carolina or uga?

Uga has top sec talent and is peaking at the right time.


They are peaking because of playing the 86th and 111th ranked teams in Total DEF the past two weeks. GA barely beat FLA and Vandy the two weeks prior...both 12th and 22nd respectively. Don't let the smoke and mirrors fool you...they are okay, but not good.


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: burbank] #220012
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Originally Posted By: burbank
Na na na na na napa know how!!!!!!!


Or better yet....

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA + Automotive...


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: burbank] #220031
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Originally Posted By: burbank
Originally Posted By: CSCURTISS
Originally Posted By: burbank
a really good UGA team


Now that's funny...


Would you rather play south carolina or uga?

Uga has top sec talent and is peaking at the right time.


That's just trying to pick the tallest midget.


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: Dustin] #220050
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Originally Posted By: Dustin
Originally Posted By: burbank
Originally Posted By: CSCURTISS
Originally Posted By: burbank
a really good UGA team


Now that's funny...


Would you rather play south carolina or uga?

Uga has top sec talent and is peaking at the right time.


I agree. The saddest part of the GA deal is that they are gonna stick with richt. GA is now a mid level program with some good but never great years mixed among several mediocre years.

That's just trying to pick the tallest midget.


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #220052
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Originally Posted By: CSCURTISS
Originally Posted By: burbank
Na na na na na napa know how!!!!!!!


Or better yet....

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA + Automotive...



Back back back to Jacks Jacks Jacks....ugh.


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