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Re: I know why folks like Roy Moore [Re: Remington270] #2196168
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Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: jawbone
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I'm not really speaking as an apologist for Moore, but his willingness to hold to his beliefs have actually cost him money and power.


I think you are misinformed and haven't been following the news.


He got forcibly removed from the Supreme Court......twice. If that isn't losing power I don't know what is.


And yet ends up in a better, more powerful job both times, assuming he gets the Senate seat, which it looks like he will. He seems to personify taking a step back to move two steps forward. Meanwhile, his charity is collecting money from people feeling sorry for him, from which he and his wife are paid a salary. Cry me a river.


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: I know why folks like Roy Moore [Re: jawbone] #2196180
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Originally Posted By: jawbone
Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: jawbone
Originally Posted By: MarksOutdoors
I'm not really speaking as an apologist for Moore, but his willingness to hold to his beliefs have actually cost him money and power.


I think you are misinformed and haven't been following the news.


He got forcibly removed from the Supreme Court......twice. If that isn't losing power I don't know what is.


And yet ends up in a better, more powerful job both times, assuming he gets the Senate seat, which it looks like he will. He seems to personify taking a step back to move two steps forward. Meanwhile, his charity is collecting money from people feeling sorry for him, from which he and his wife are paid a salary. Cry me a river.


Nobody said he was a model citizen. I probably wouldn't even like the guy personally. But these are our choices. Classic Trump vs Hillary deal.

Re: I know why folks like Roy Moore [Re: jawbone] #2196183
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Originally Posted By: jawbone
Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: jawbone
Originally Posted By: MarksOutdoors
I'm not really speaking as an apologist for Moore, but his willingness to hold to his beliefs have actually cost him money and power.


I think you are misinformed and haven't been following the news.


He got forcibly removed from the Supreme Court......twice. If that isn't losing power I don't know what is.


And yet ends up in a better, more powerful job both times, assuming he gets the Senate seat, which it looks like he will. He seems to personify taking a step back to move two steps forward. Meanwhile, his charity is collecting money from people feeling sorry for him, from which he and his wife are paid a salary. Cry me a river.


The first time, he was removed, he was later reelected to the same position. So, I don't see how that was a step forward. Are you saying he shouldn't be paid by the charity he runs? I don't know of many large charitable organizations that are run entirely by volunteers.

The fact of the matter is, if he had not been removed a a judge, he would still be a judge. The people of Alabama obviously disagree with the judicial ethics commission, which is a total joke anyway.

He didn't get paid by the charity while he was a sitting judge. It was only when he was not on the bench and it was at a rate less than a 1/3 of his salary when he was a judge.

Re: I know why folks like Roy Moore [Re: Remington270] #2196192
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moore refuses to obey a basic tenet of christianity: give to God what is God's, and to Caesar (the government) what is Caesar's.
when a person takes the oath of office, he promises to uphold the laws of the government in whose office he serves, NOT disobey them when convenient, so help him God.
Jesus also said, let your yes be yes, and your no be no, to NOT take oaths. with moore, we see why ...


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Re: I know why folks like Roy Moore [Re: paulfish4570] #2196223
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Originally Posted By: paulfish4570
moore refuses to obey a basic tenet of christianity: give to God what is God's, and to Caesar (the government) what is Caesar's.
when a person takes the oath of office, he promises to uphold the laws of the government in whose office he serves, NOT disobey them when convenient, so help him God.
Jesus also said, let your yes be yes, and your no be no, to NOT take oaths. with moore, we see why ...


The first time with the 10 commandments I agree with you. The last time, he did nothing wrong and it was a freaking joke of a dog and pony show to get him off the court. They were looking for any excuse they could come up with.

Re: I know why folks like Roy Moore [Re: doekiller] #2196239
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Originally Posted By: doekiller
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moore refuses to obey a basic tenet of christianity: give to God what is God's, and to Caesar (the government) what is Caesar's.
when a person takes the oath of office, he promises to uphold the laws of the government in whose office he serves, NOT disobey them when convenient, so help him God.
Jesus also said, let your yes be yes, and your no be no, to NOT take oaths. with moore, we see why ...


The first time with the 10 commandments I agree with you. The last time, he did nothing wrong and it was a freaking joke of a dog and pony show to get him off the court. They were looking for any excuse they could come up with.


I'm not sure how the canons and ethics of being a judge work, but aren't you bound by some doctrine or principle to obey the rulings and orders of a higher court?

For the record, I'm pretty sure he'll be our next senator so I hope and pray that he is everything some people think he is and my sleezeball detector is wrong this time. One of those times I would take no joy in a "I told you so moment".

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Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: I know why folks like Roy Moore [Re: Remington270] #2196250
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After his speech last night, I'm on the JRM train. I would vote for Pinocchio before I voted for Luther Strange.

I am in favor of the Fair Tax which is consumption tax, which he also is in favor of. People always seem to question other people's motives, but I try to judge actions. You can say what you want, but he has convictions, and I like that.

Re: I know why folks like Roy Moore [Re: Remington270] #2196252
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Take a look at Doug Jones...

Re: I know why folks like Roy Moore [Re: paulfish4570] #2196255
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Originally Posted By: paulfish4570
moore refuses to obey a basic tenet of christianity: give to God what is God's, and to Caesar (the government) what is Caesar's.
when a person takes the oath of office, he promises to uphold the laws of the government in whose office he serves, NOT disobey them when convenient, so help him God.
Jesus also said, let your yes be yes, and your no be no, to NOT take oaths. with moore, we see why ...


It's apparent that you have no idea how heavily this country and the rule of law set forth in it, were directly influenced by Christianity and the bible itself. If anything Roy Moore was protecting the American way of life and UPHOLDING the rule of law as set forth by the framers of the Constitution. When the laws that have been created through overturning God's law are the rule of law in the land it is our duty as citizens and politicians alike to return the country to the original rule of law on which it was founded. This isn't hypocracy.

And as I say this, I'm not insinuating that Roy Moore is the man for the job. But, he did raise some very pertinent questions about the process of law during that entire incident.

Re: I know why folks like Roy Moore [Re: JayHook] #2196260
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Originally Posted By: JayHook
Take a look at Doug Jones...


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Re: I know why folks like Roy Moore [Re: JayHook] #2196266
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Originally Posted By: JayHook
Take a look at Doug Jones...


I did and he has a D behind his name so he is eliminated in the first round.


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Re: I know why folks like Roy Moore [Re: JayHook] #2196268
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Originally Posted By: JayHook
Take a look at Doug Jones...


I can't vote for the Party of Pelosi.

Re: I know why folks like Roy Moore [Re: Remington270] #2196269
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Didn't Moore defy a higher courts ruling on what to do? If I defied a judges order, what would happen to me?

Re: I know why folks like Roy Moore [Re: Remington270] #2196271
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In his OWN way he's a Trump. I don't always agree with him, but you can take it to the bank he'll stand on what he says and if you want to push him around you'll have to do it over his dead body.

Re: I know why folks like Roy Moore [Re: jawbone] #2196272
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Originally Posted By: jawbone
Originally Posted By: JayHook
Take a look at Doug Jones...


I did and he has a D behind his name so he is eliminated in the first round.


AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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And this is why we no longer have centrists in either party.


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Remember, you can justify your vote anyway you want but they are all chithead politicians. Every single one of them.


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Another thing he stated was about impeaching the Supreme Court members who were making up law, or something along those lines. Is that even an option???

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Originally Posted By: jawbone
Originally Posted By: JayHook
Take a look at Doug Jones...


I did and he has a D behind his name so he is eliminated in the first round.
just suggesting for us to consider a demoncrat is a major break of aldeer rules and should get you solitary confinement in a sweat box


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Originally Posted By: mman
Another thing he stated was about impeaching the Supreme Court members who were making up law, or something along those lines. Is that even an option???


Yes, they can be impeached for the same reason the president can.

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