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Re: Seed Wheat vs Feed Wheat
[Re: centralala]
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08/17/17 08:02 AM
08/17/17 08:02 AM
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Remington270
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Feed wheat is where the problem comes in. The problems associated with feed wheat are germination rate, noxious weed seeds in the mix etc. There aren't any patent issues to worry about, and I don't think the feds are going to monitor my wheat planting quota. Feed or seed wheat will both grow and do well.
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Re: Seed Wheat vs Feed Wheat
[Re: centralala]
#2197567
08/17/17 09:59 AM
08/17/17 09:59 AM
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poorcountrypreacher
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I can't remember shite! Seems planting feed wheat is illegal. Not a game law. Some other kind of law. Feed wheat is not legal to use for top sowing if you are planning a dove shoot over it. The dcnr uses the Extension Service recommendation to determine what is normal Agricultural practice, and it they have decided it isn't normal to plant feed wheat. If you wanna plant feed wheat in a deer plot, I don't think there is any law against that. I bought some seed wheat this week for $9. I asked the price of feed wheat - $9. He said he got a good buy on the seed wheat and is passing it on to customers. I've got a couple of fields ruined by wild turnips that were in feed wheat my dad bought in the 90s. I've stuck with seed wheat since. There is a lot more to the 1940s era case than that article mentions. I remember it still being discussed in classes at Auburn in the 70s. There were all sorts of programs the government had back then, and if you signed up for their programs and took their money, you were bound to follow their rules. The farmer thought he had a loophole because he wasn't gonna sell the wheat, he was gonna feed it to chickens and sell them. That info is from memory and may not be exactly right, so please correct if I'm wrong. I do remember that the farmer was so mad that he sold out and moved to Australia to farm. He came back in a few years; said they were even worse. None of this has anything to do with the Obama era law about food production. Who knows how it might be enforced.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: Seed Wheat vs Feed Wheat
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
#2197633
08/17/17 11:08 AM
08/17/17 11:08 AM
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centralala
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I can't remember shite! Seems planting feed wheat is illegal. Not a game law. Some other kind of law. Feed wheat is not legal to use for top sowing if you are planning a dove shoot over it. The dcnr uses the Extension Service recommendation to determine what is normal Agricultural practice, and it they have decided it isn't normal to plant feed wheat. If you wanna plant feed wheat in a deer plot, I don't think there is any law against that. I may have been thinking of the dove. Reckon how many people planting plots actually check test date. I've caught some trying to sell last years seed to me. It is suppose to be rechecked for germination every so often and retagged. Think its once a year. Generally, last year seed is what the NWTF sells cheap.
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Re: Seed Wheat vs Feed Wheat
[Re: Remington270]
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08/17/17 02:57 PM
08/17/17 02:57 PM
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k bush
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I'd like to see the DCNR to try and prove somebody planted feed instead of seed wheat. I think it's more geared towards farmers and dealers selling uncertified crops as "seed".
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: Seed Wheat vs Feed Wheat
[Re: k bush]
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08/17/17 03:03 PM
08/17/17 03:03 PM
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Joe4majors
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I'd like to see the DCNR to try and prove somebody planted feed instead of seed wheat. I think it's more geared towards farmers and dealers selling uncertified crops as "seed". Like I said earlier, it was a guy at the seed and feed talking about not selling feed wheat for plots (and said someone got busted for selling). For what it's worth, he was the store owner, not some 19-year old kid loading fertilizer in the back of people's trucks. He could have been fibbing though.
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Re: Seed Wheat vs Feed Wheat
[Re: Remington270]
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08/17/17 03:23 PM
08/17/17 03:23 PM
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Posts: 12,100 Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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I'd like to see the DCNR to try and prove somebody planted feed instead of seed wheat. It's simple. They will use the same tried and true methods they use to make sure that nobody kills over 5 turkeys or 3 bucks in a season. And since there has never been an arrest made for violating either regulation, then it's clear that these methods are 100% effective.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: Seed Wheat vs Feed Wheat
[Re: huntndave]
#2197971
08/17/17 03:29 PM
08/17/17 03:29 PM
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257wbymag
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You do not have to plant certified seed for cover crops. So there's your loophole. I'll use feed wheat all day on cover crop. My head hurts and I'm tired. Another one of these threads I could clear up easily here but I'm not going to.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Seed Wheat vs Feed Wheat
[Re: centralala]
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08/17/17 03:49 PM
08/17/17 03:49 PM
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Snowman257wby
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I can't remember shite! Seems planting feed wheat is illegal. Not a game law. Some other kind of law. Feed wheat is not legal to use for top sowing if you are planning a dove shoot over it. The dcnr uses the Extension Service recommendation to determine what is normal Agricultural practice, and it they have decided it isn't normal to plant feed wheat. If you wanna plant feed wheat in a deer plot, I don't think there is any law against that. I may have been thinking of the dove. Reckon how many people planting plots actually check test date. I've caught some trying to sell last years seed to me. It is suppose to be rechecked for germination every so often and retagged. Think its once a year. Generally, last year seed is what the NWTF sells cheap. This NWTF wheat I speak of is not from any other year and is solid ( non deformed) with a orange coating . Maybe some kind of inoculant or something to keep birds from eating
"Give me a second" - Stan Potts
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Re: Seed Wheat vs Feed Wheat
[Re: huntndave]
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08/17/17 03:56 PM
08/17/17 03:56 PM
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Nope. Just standard fungicide plus maybe insecticide seed treatment. Wheat doesn't need inoculating. And thanks to the EPA we don't have bird repellents anymore
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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