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Craig James Is High #219249
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One more reason there should not be a human vote allowed in who goes to the BCSNC game. Said he would have Arkansas in the championship game if they beat LSU. Doesn't matter what Bama, Oregon, OK has done and they would deserve it because they beat the top team in the country.

What a maroon!


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219297
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I heard that too. And all year he's been preaching "body of work." He's crawfishing now and I believe it's due to NOONE knowing how they'll vote and the chaos that will ensue should that happen.


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219339
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Well, If Arky does beat LSU...they should belong in the debate.

Whoever gets the benefit of beating a really good UGA team in the SECCG will probably go.

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Originally Posted By: burbank
Well, If Arky does beat LSU...they should belong in the debate.

Whoever gets the benefit of beating a really good UGA team in the SECCG will probably go.


Yep, Arkansas has only lost 1 game and that was to the #2 team in the country. If they beat LSU, then they did more than Alabama could. Is Arkansas beats LSU or Oklahoma beats Ok State, the BCS will be a damn mess this year.


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: burbank] #219345
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Originally Posted By: burbank
a really good UGA team


Now that's funny...


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219363
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My opinion...

Bama had their chance and should not be given another one UNLESS there are no undefeated teams left at the end. Arkansas should not be mentioned in the CG because they lost a game by 24 points. Oklahoma lost a game where they were favored by 29.5 points so they shouldn't be mentioned either.


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219365
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If a one loss Arkansas team beats LSU then I can understand the argument.


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: Brent] #219372
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Originally Posted By: Brent
My opinion...

Bama had their chance and should not be given another one UNLESS there are no undefeated teams left at the end. Arkansas should not be mentioned in the CG because they lost a game by 24 points. Oklahoma lost a game where they were favored by 29.5 points so they shouldn't be mentioned either.


You think Houston should be given a shot before Alabama gets a rematch?

I don't think there's anyone who thinks that if OSU and LSU remain undefeated, there's any reason why those two won't meet in New Orleans. Probably wouldn't be the best two teams in the nation, but it's the way the ball bounces sometimes.

It does seem as if some of the media pundits want to punish Bama for being not only in the same conference as LSU, but in the same division.


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I don't count Houston any more than I counted Boise.


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: Brent] #219384
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Quote:
Arkansas should not be mentioned in the CG because they lost a game by 24 points. Oklahoma lost a game where they were favored by 29.5 points so they shouldn't be mentioned either.



When did a points minimum or standard get put into effect for teams in the hunt?

What's the standard for a one-loss team to still get in the BCSCG? One point? A touchdown? Ten points?


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Originally Posted By: CSCURTISS
One more reason there should not be a human vote allowed in who goes to the BCSNC game.


Let's face it...there's not a good system outside of a playoff for determining who's #1. We can dog the human polls all we want, but the computer polls are just as bad, if not worse. The computer polls strongly favor strong offensive teams over strong defensive teams. One of the computer polls used in determining the BCS actually has South Carolina ranked #3 currently.


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Originally Posted By: Clem
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Arkansas should not be mentioned in the CG because they lost a game by 24 points. Oklahoma lost a game where they were favored by 29.5 points so they shouldn't be mentioned either.



When did a points minimum or standard get put into effect for teams in the hunt?

What's the standard for a one-loss team to still get in the BCSCG? One point? A touchdown? Ten points?


Not sure there's a good answer for that Clem, other than to say that WHO you lost to and HOW you lost to them should matter, IMO.


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Originally Posted By: Clem
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Arkansas should not be mentioned in the CG because they lost a game by 24 points. Oklahoma lost a game where they were favored by 29.5 points so they shouldn't be mentioned either.



When did a points minimum or standard get put into effect for teams in the hunt?

What's the standard for a one-loss team to still get in the BCSCG? One point? A touchdown? Ten points?





It's nice that you quoted everything except "My opinion".


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219402
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There's two ways to do it, playoff or rankings. Any combination of the two is trouble.

If we are going by rankings, which we are. Then you can't say Alabama had there chance. That doesn't hold water, if they are number two at the end of the year they should play. They lost to the number one team in OT by a field goal, That adds credence to the argument that they are in fact the second best team.

If Arkansas beats LSU and is number two they should play.

If we were in a playoff, then you would throw all theses polls and rankings out. Alabama would be out because they cant win the SEC.

To me thats fair, but it ain't that way.

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OK ...

"IN YOUR OPINION" when did a points standard get instituted for a one-loss team still in the hunt for a BCSCG berth?


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In addition to what coldtrail posted above...does a playoff really determine who the best team in the nation is, or is it simply a measure of who gets hot when?

Does anyone believe that the NY Giants were a better football team than the Patriots a few years back?


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Re: Craig James Is High [Re: CSCURTISS] #219423
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I think for the most part we like all like to see it settled on the field. Your right the Super Bowl winner is rarely the best team. But they are the undisputable "Champion". Thats why we love sports. Its the drama, you team or the underdog earning a chance, being the best on that day.

Its not that much of a rush to be "voted" number one. Put it in the players and coaches hands. Computers, AP ranking its just silly


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We all bitch a lot about the BCS...but most of the time it puts the 2 best teams in the NC game. Other than 2005...it has gotten it right.


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I'm just saying how I'd vote if I had a vote. If a team loses a game where they are favored by double digits I couldn't vote them in the CG. If a team lost a game by double digits I couldn't vote them in. Also, I wouldn't vote for a rematch unless I was sure they were the best 2 teams. Not sure how I'd determine that.

Not sure why you keep asking "when?". I've always felt that way.


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Originally Posted By: BamaProud
We all bitch a lot about the BCS...but most of the time it puts the 2 best teams in the NC game. Other than 2005...it has gotten it right.


2005 Texas/USC was probably the best matchup ever.


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