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Looks like I've made some dove feed #2175774
07/25/17 08:01 AM
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This was my first attempt to grow grain sorghum. I didn't use any herbicide and just broadcasted it,so it's kinda weedy. Still looks like every plant made a big seed head. For you guys that have grown it for doves, do you think it will be palatable for doves by September? I've read that they like it better later in the season;
no idea if that's true.

Got a good field of corn close by. I know they will eat it by season.



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Re: Looks like I've made some dove feed [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2175848
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Re: Looks like I've made some dove feed [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2176246
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Re: Looks like I've made some dove feed [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2176291
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Awesome, outta kill some birds over that preach.

Re: Looks like I've made some dove feed [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2176309
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Yes. Kill it with gly or gramoxone 14 days ahead of season to clean the ground up for easy access for them to feed. Burn or mow strips accordingly. Hope y'all wax em


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Re: Looks like I've made some dove feed [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2176422
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Looks good PCP!

I've never had any last until the second season. Dang deer here will eat the seed heads off as soon as they mature.



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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Yes. Kill it with gly or gramoxone 14 days ahead of season to clean the ground up for easy access for them to feed. Burn or mow strips accordingly. Hope y'all wax em


Thanks! I will try that to have an opening day shoot. This entire opening is only about 10 acres, and it's just not many doves in the area. There will probably be 4 of us shooting it. In past years, I've had this much food available in corn and millet and we would only kill 5 or 6 apiece. A decade ago we were able to get limits opening day, but it hasn't happened lately. This year I just substituted the sorghum for the browntop I've been planting.

I've said this before, but I really, really mean it this time - if I don't get any doves in this year I'm gonna give up growing stuff for them. But I probably won't. smile

North40, I've wondered if deer would eat the heads. If they do, I guess that millet is still the better option.

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Re: Looks like I've made some dove feed [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2188268
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Spray with gly and set fire to it. It will burn the grass under and pop the sorghum like popcorn. It will leave you with standing sorghum with very clean ground underneath. Also, you are kinda right by the fact of the birds liking it later in the season. Doves like bigger grain the cooler it gets in part because of the higher fat content. I have saw cut soybean fields not have a dove on them and then a month later a cold front hit and it be loaded down.

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Re: Looks like I've made some dove feed [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2199780
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Re: Looks like I've made some dove feed [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2199969
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If the seed heads begin to turn brown, watch out. That's when the deer hammer them. They never last until the late dove season. In theory, the stalks should stand until late season but deer will not let that happen.


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Re: Looks like I've made some dove feed [Re: coop4412] #2200166
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Originally Posted By: coop4412
Spray with gly and set fire to it. It will burn the grass under and pop the sorghum like popcorn. It will leave you with standing sorghum with very clean ground underneath. Also, you are kinda right by the fact of the birds liking it later in the season. Doves like bigger grain the cooler it gets in part because of the higher fat content. I have saw cut soybean fields not have a dove on them and then a month later a cold front hit and it be loaded down.


Thanks to all for the info. I guess I need to spray and burn. I tried bushhogging it Thursday but there is so much grass that I couldn't find any seed. If the deer are gonna eat it, it's not gonna last long anyway.

I bushhogged a little corn too, and it's not dry enough to shell. Not many doves around either. I'm not optimistic on a good shoot at this point.


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I just what you did this Am. Bush hogged some volunteer corn and older sunflowers. Grass was fairly thick. I'm gonna let it sap out then spray resprout with gramoxone next weekend. That'll expose some dirt and seed. Then I'll wheat it up good.


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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
I just what you did this Am. Bush hogged some volunteer corn and older sunflowers. Grass was fairly thick. I'm gonna let it sap out then spray resprout with gramoxone next weekend. That'll expose some dirt and seed. Then I'll wheat it up good.


You ever tried spraying and then burning corn? I sprayed it just once with gly at about 30 days and there's a lot of low weeds in there. I think the sorghum will get really hot if I burn it, but I'm doubting that the actual grain part of the corn will burn. I could then run over it with the bush hog and scatter corn on clean ground. Bad idea?


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I never have burned standing corn. Might make popcorn laugh


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It's worth a try.


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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
It's worth a try.


Not sure I wanna be a pioneer on this. smile

I'll wait and see if I have any doves at all and then decide.


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Looking good, preach! Doves found it yet?


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Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
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It's worth a try.


Not sure I wanna be a pioneer on this. smile

I'll wait and see if I have any doves at all and then decide.


I would not try it at all, low humidity, high ambient temp and a great fuel source would lead to some serious flames. We burned a field off last week that was just fallow we had killed with gly. Hot is an understatement.


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Humidity will be higher this week. But wind will become an issue at some point this week.


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Originally Posted By: cartervj
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
It's worth a try.


Not sure I wanna be a pioneer on this. smile

I'll wait and see if I have any doves at all and then decide.


I would not try it at all, low humidity, high ambient temp and a great fuel source would lead to some serious flames. We burned a field off last week that was just fallow we had killed with gly. Hot is an understatement.


Probably good advice, but appears to be a moot point. I sprayed everything with gly, but there isn't a day in the forecast with humidity below 60%. I've never been able to get anything to burn with it that high. And rain is coming almost every day so it will be too wet to burn.

And the dang deer have eaten half the corn in a week. As soon as it got dry they came in like hogs. I cut a few rows at 3 pm Friday and at 4:30 there were 5 deer eating in the mowed area. I guess I will bush hog the whole corn field next trip and hope the doves find a little of it. There are all sorts of birds eating the grain sorghum. They are sitting on the heads and have already gotten all the seed off many of them.

I'm feeding all sorts of varmits, but the doves aren't aggressive enough to get their share.


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