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Baits for Beach #2173884
07/23/17 06:17 AM
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Since I'm here I am going to wet a hook.
I know it's not the optimal time but any advice for Pier or surf?
I've always chunked pyramid weight pomp rig with a chunk of shrimp but want to broaden my horizons.
I bought some Gulp shrimp in new penny/chartreuse and some pink Fushbites. Thought I'd rig the Gulp shrimp on Scrounger heads I brought from home.
Any advice welcome.
Don't give a shucks what I catch. I'd just like to catch.


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Re: Baits for Beach [Re: AC870] #2173892
07/23/17 06:25 AM
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All I ever need on the beach is natties....


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Re: Baits for Beach [Re: AC870] #2173903
07/23/17 06:35 AM
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Friend watched a guy wear out some Pompano on fishbites a few weeks ago. You. An also dig sandfleas or get a ghost shrimp pump. Both work really well in the surf.

Last edited by k bush; 07/23/17 06:35 AM.

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Re: Baits for Beach [Re: AC870] #2173914
07/23/17 06:52 AM
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Yep - catch sand fleas for whiting and pomps. A little piece of shrimp about 1/2 inch long will sometimes work better for whiting. Fish for whiting and pomps right in the waves almost against the beach - rarely more than twenty yards out.

Big crab for reds - clip the points off the outside and rip off the back then run a big hook through the middle from bottom to top. A thirty pound red bite will often look like a light bream bump, if you see little taps - set the hook hard. Squid will last a long time on the hook and catch anything but if you have trash around, it will catch more of that than anything else. Frozen cigar minnows or finger mullet will catch blues like nobody's business.

Something you can cast a zillion miles for anything that's crashing bait, a topwater like a spook or skitterwalk or a spoon.

If you have cover around like rocks and dock or pier pilings you can make a carolina rig with a shortish leader and live shrimp or small pinfish for flounder. Sometimes flounder will surprise you and crash bait on the surface in shallowish water. If you can't catch anything on a big bait thrown through the place where bait is jumping, try a smaller spinner (about the size you would use for smallish bass) and they will often times slam it with a vengeance.

The gulp shrimp you put on a lightish jighead and use a strip of pinfish or cigar minnow on it about two inches long and a half inch wide. Throw it out and drag or hop it on the bottom. Usually live or dead bait works way better but if they're biting real good the jig is less messy.


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Re: Baits for Beach [Re: AC870] #2173922
07/23/17 07:00 AM
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Get you some pvc pipe 2' long that will fit around your rod and drive it in the sand for a rod holder. Set a chair up behind or next to it and watch the tip. Much easier to tell when you're getting a bite if the rod is still. Works even better if you can do this from under an umbrella. Much more comfortable. You can catch fish in the heat of the day but the old saying is "nobody goes out in the mid day sun except mad dogs and Englishmen".


Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
Re: Baits for Beach [Re: AC870] #2173924
07/23/17 07:02 AM
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Fishbites, new penny gulp shrimp, a small casting spoon and matrix shad swimbaits. That will catch 90% of the fish in the surf. If there are kings or Spanish running, gotcha plugs or cigar minnows floated on the surface.


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Re: Baits for Beach [Re: AC870] #2173928
07/23/17 07:08 AM
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When we were there this past weekend a boy caught 76 flounder from our pier in front of the condo. He was using live shrimp.


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Re: Baits for Beach [Re: AC870] #2173939
07/23/17 07:19 AM
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Are the flounder near surf too or look for them in bays/lagoons?


“Killing tomorrow’s trophies today.”

On the distance I like to walk to my stands:
“The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
Re: Baits for Beach [Re: AC870] #2173944
07/23/17 07:29 AM
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Fish bites and sand fleas for surf. I have never pier fished but they are catching a lot of big king mackeral from the County pier in PC right now.


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Re: Baits for Beach [Re: AC870] #2173964
07/23/17 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted By: AC870
Are the flounder near surf too or look for them in bays/lagoons?


Flounder will hang around beaches but they will be few and far between and you have to know where to look for them. Cuts, deeper spots, spots where the water swirls in and out of a cut, etc.

Flounder like to hang tight (think crappie tight against but on the bottom) to wood structure first and rock or concrete structure second. Pier pilings are the preferred structure and they will tucked in tight against it (a couple of feet away or less usually) drag the smallest weight you can use to keep your bait within a foot or so of bottom on a carolina rig right next to that cover with a live shrimp or small pinfish. Small minnow (2"-4") of any sort will work. If they are on, you drag a dead minnow by them and get a bite. It'll feel like the bump when a bass takes a worm and the retrieve needs to be like slow worm fishing for bass. Feel the bumps - set the hook. That's why you need a short leader on your rig - about 14" or so. Smallest and lightest terminal tackle you can use as they are hammered all the time by folks like us and they are not stupid. A good way to trick them up is to wade out in the water and cast right by that structure toward the bank and then retrieve it out toward the sea.

Bluefish are stupid and easy to catch when they come through. Use a catfish rig of medium size (err to the small side if anything) with a frozen cigar minnow or finger mullet you can buy at walmarks. If they're cutting off half the bait and not getting hooked then switch to half of a minnow. They like the front half better so I use up all the fronts I have and then fish with the tail half when I run out.


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Re: Baits for Beach [Re: AC870] #2173981
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Many of these fish will have teeth. Look in there before you stick yer parts in there. A bluefish will bite the living snot out of you just out of meannness. Also be careful around gill plates as many are sharp and will hurt you if you stick your fingers/hand up under them.


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Re: Baits for Beach [Re: top cat] #2174013
07/23/17 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted By: top cat
All I ever need on the beach is natties....



Drops Mic, and exits...


Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.

My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
Re: Baits for Beach [Re: AC870] #2174195
07/23/17 12:56 PM
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AC don't overlook trying to catch a shark once the sun goes down. Cut bait or a cut up ladyfish


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Re: Baits for Beach [Re: AC870] #2174200
07/23/17 01:00 PM
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Yeah AC, and lip that bad boy! grin


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Re: Baits for Beach [Re: AC870] #2174211
07/23/17 01:20 PM
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Double hook pyramid in the surf, orange bead before kahle hook, fresh dead shrimp on one hook sand flea in other. Sit back drink natties and hope a fish doesn't interrupt u. Can get the shrimp and fleas at bait and tackle store.

Re: Baits for Beach [Re: AC870] #2174334
07/23/17 03:26 PM
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We pier fished kings alot, go buy a good sized penn battle, take any old fishin pole an a minner bucket with bout 30ft of rope. Take normal pole an use a sibiki rig to catch you some LY's look like a threadfin shad actually menhadden tho. An putem in ur bucket an pitchem over the rail so theyll live. You will need ohh id say 20lb piano wire an a good 4/0 strengthtreble hook i always liked mustad size is #3 i think an some good high quality swivels. You can crimpem or tyem but tyin is aggrevatin as crap. Back your battle with bout 75 yards of 20lb mono an barrel knot some good 30-40lb braid to it. Hook ly right above the tail while good. And alive all this is done with zero weight. An just slangeem out there an free float him at about 5:30 in the mornin and crank your drag down low as you can without your spool comin off and wait. This is a king mackeral starter kit i suppose. Youll know if one takes off with it reel will sound like a weedeater. Count to bout 5 tighten the drag up just a fuzz an roll on him an seat the hook good then enjoy the fight. If you get him close to the pier just start hollerin for a gaff oneah them teenage boys will gaffeem for you thats like crack to them. A king is the only fish a care about off the pier but we catch flounder an stuff in the bay with bull minnows an if you could find a live shrimp down there rigit like a big bream rig an got to the perdido key pass if theyll let you fish there now was washin away. But weve caught some nice reds like that. Probly alot of info sorry im not a very good explainer it will take many trips to perfect this but its alot of fun. Ohh an if the locals call you a googan well thats just part of it.


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