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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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07/20/17 02:17 PM
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"Misdial" call to escort service discovered on school-issued phone: https://sports.yahoo.com/hugh-freeze-res...-234821463.html
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: Parker243]
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07/20/17 02:20 PM
07/20/17 02:20 PM
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doekiller
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Apparently he made a call to an escort service... Say it isn't so. He is a fine Christian man. Sounds like he is a scumbag like everyone who is not an Ole Miss fan thought.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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07/20/17 02:22 PM
07/20/17 02:22 PM
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Good thing he is a Christian. The Lord will forgive him, but I don't think OM fans will. I hate when a Christian that doesn't hide his faith fails, and we all do, it just causes the critics to blabber on about hypocrisy when they just don't get the concept of what it means to be a Christian.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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07/20/17 02:24 PM
07/20/17 02:24 PM
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That Yahoo story says the OM people found just one call to that number out of 39,000 calls.
First, something else had to show up in that log of calls.
Second, THIRTY-NINE THOUSAND phone calls? Dang.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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07/20/17 02:43 PM
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Apparently there were more. Saw where the AD called the "pattern troubling" the more they looked thru the call logs.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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07/20/17 02:45 PM
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OM President and the AD said there was a "pattern of personal misconduct" and Freeze resigned after it was revealed they knew.
Ole Miss AD Ross Bjork: "We proactively looked into the rest of (Hugh Freeze's) phone records & found a concerning pattern."
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: Rebelman]
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07/20/17 02:56 PM
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Who knew he was a slime ball. Lots of people.
"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"
Have you tried Google?
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: jake44]
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07/20/17 03:13 PM
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Hate it for his family. I have to wonder if he was lining up escorts for himself or for high school kids.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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07/20/17 03:16 PM
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Ole Miss should hire Les Miles right now.
I doubt Les wants to deal with the chit OleMess is dealing with though.
The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: jake44]
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07/20/17 03:18 PM
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Wow!!!! I apologize Auburn fans I thought Cecil,Cam, and Auburn were some of the dirtiest in the country, but I'm afraid once the NCAA gets done with Ole Miss, and everything comes, it will make what Miami did look good!!! Stay tuned, and if you've never listened to Paul Finebaum tomorrow would be a good day!! Don't sell Auburn short jake, Cecil,cam and the barn are still "some of the dirtiest in the country"
Lone Watie: I'm glad you stopped me when you did. I might have killed her
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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07/20/17 03:26 PM
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Will be hired soon as an offensive analyst for Bama. Roll Tide and God Bless Nick Saban.
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God Bless Nick Saban!
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: jawbone]
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07/20/17 03:28 PM
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Good thing he is a Christian. The Lord will forgive him, but I don't think OM fans will. I hate when a Christian that doesn't hide his faith fails, and we all do, it just causes the critics to blabber on about hypocrisy when they just don't get the concept of what it means to be a Christian. You said Christian more than even he could He's a scumbag
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: jbc]
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07/20/17 03:30 PM
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The Ole Miss boards are spilling the beans. Looks like he makes Lane Kiffin and Petrino look like saints.... Good thing he is a Christian. The Lord will forgive him, but I don't think OM fans will. I hate when a Christian that doesn't hide his faith fails, and we all do, it just causes the critics to blabber on about hypocrisy when they just don't get the concept of what it means to be a Christian. You said Christian more than even he could He's a scumbag
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: burbank]
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07/20/17 03:37 PM
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The Ole Miss boards are spilling the beans. Looks like he makes Lane Kiffin and Petrino look like saints.... Good thing he is a Christian. The Lord will forgive him, but I don't think OM fans will. I hate when a Christian that doesn't hide his faith fails, and we all do, it just causes the critics to blabber on about hypocrisy when they just don't get the concept of what it means to be a Christian. You said Christian more than even he could He's a scumbag
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: burbank]
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07/20/17 03:42 PM
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The Ole Miss boards are spilling the beans. Looks like he makes Lane Kiffin and Petrino look like saints.... Good thing he is a Christian. The Lord will forgive him, but I don't think OM fans will. I hate when a Christian that doesn't hide his faith fails, and we all do, it just causes the critics to blabber on about hypocrisy when they just don't get the concept of what it means to be a Christian. You said Christian more than even he could He's a scumbag I honestly don't see how anybody can reach Petrino on the slime bag scale. Kiffin was an arrogant ass, but he is not even in the same ballpark as Petrino.
Last edited by pcamper; 07/20/17 03:44 PM.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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07/20/17 03:43 PM
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You just can't throw these measley high school coaches into the temptation of the SEC and not expect them to faulter. Isn't Gus and Hugh best friends for life or some chit?
The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: jbatey1]
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07/20/17 03:47 PM
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You just can't throw these measley high school coaches into the temptation of the SEC and not expect them to faulter. Isn't Gus and Hugh best friends for life or some chit? They played as partners in the Willow Point Country Club Member-Guest golf tournament at Lake Martin a few weeks ago. Stayed at Gus' new lake house I found that odd. And a conflict of interest
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: bmc77]
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07/20/17 03:47 PM
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Boats and hoes will ruin a good man. Pffft. Whatever. That's fun.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: !shiloh!]
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07/20/17 04:34 PM
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Jawbone is spot on. When you in the spotlight and you profess Christianity people and the devil him self make you top priority to destroy. So he was a good Christian man before he got tempted by the evils of college football. Got it.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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07/20/17 05:04 PM
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Football season is coming but Freeze already came.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: hallb]
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07/20/17 05:07 PM
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Jawbone is spot on. When you in the spotlight and you profess Christianity people and the devil him self make you top priority to destroy. So he was a good Christian man before he got tempted by the evils of college football. Got it. You are a "cast the first stone " kind of guy huh
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: timbercruiser]
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07/20/17 05:11 PM
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Prostitutes for recruits also, it is just getting worse for Freeze. May be other sport players involved also. Sounds like Nutt's lawsuit discovery found everything. I doubt Ole Miss is the only school hooking recruits up. Freeze is probably the only head coach in America to actually call from his damn work phone though. I bet a lot of head coaches and assistant coaches all over the country are about to get their phone records freedom of information acted though.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: crenshawco]
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07/20/17 05:18 PM
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Saban and the REC set Hugh up. I wonder what could be found with a FOI request for Saban's cell? I'm glad bammers can sleep in peace tonight. They don't have to worry about another arse whipping from Bucky the beaver hunter
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: pcamper]
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07/20/17 05:23 PM
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Wow!!!! I apologize Auburn fans I thought Cecil,Cam, and Auburn were some of the dirtiest in the country, but I'm afraid once the NCAA gets done with Ole Miss, and everything comes, it will make what Miami did look good!!! Stay tuned, and if you've never listened to Paul Finebaum tomorrow would be a good day!! Don't sell Auburn short jake, Cecil,cam and the barn are still "some of the dirtiest in the country" said the Repeat offender with the near Death Penalty experience. Albert Means says hello
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: JAT50]
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07/21/17 02:08 AM
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Prostitutes for recruits also, it is just getting worse for Freeze. May be other sport players involved also. Sounds like Nutt's lawsuit discovery found everything. I doubt Ole Miss is the only school hooking recruits up. Freeze is probably the only head coach in America to actually call from his damn work phone though. I bet a lot of head coaches and assistant coaches all over the country are about to get their phone records freedom of information acted though. Why do you need a frickin escort when the local college girls will "escort" the players for free?!
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: timbercruiser]
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07/21/17 02:21 AM
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There are a couple of other things about Freeze that might come out. Yep, I've heard a couple of things in his closet from when he was high school coach.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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07/21/17 02:24 AM
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I spoke to a friend of mine that is a former player and was roommates with the interim coach. He told me that there was a lot more than one call. That there was one call to that number. But there were hundreds of calls to escorts and such on his phone records since he was hired. There is also suppose to be some other things that will be coming out eventually.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: Tigger85]
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07/21/17 02:57 AM
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Wow!!!! I apologize Auburn fans I thought Cecil,Cam, and Auburn were some of the dirtiest in the country, but I'm afraid once the NCAA gets done with Ole Miss, and everything comes, it will make what Miami did look good!!! Stay tuned, and if you've never listened to Paul Finebaum tomorrow would be a good day!! Don't sell Auburn short jake, Cecil,cam and the barn are still "some of the dirtiest in the country" said the Repeat offender with the near Death Penalty experience. Albert Means says hello Just kidding tigger.......
Lone Watie: I'm glad you stopped me when you did. I might have killed her
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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SO he was giving players a free shot at std's so what? at least it wasnt drugs! Well most of us know that coochie is addicting so......................
Last edited by Shaneomac2; 07/21/17 03:47 AM.
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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No way Freeze was hooking up recruits. The NCAA has been in town for 3 years digging into just about every nook, cranny and crevice. The NCAA found out about some free t-shirts and a kid sleeping on a couch. They would have for sure found some evidence of hookers for recruits during this time. Nutt was brought down by phone records and FOIA. Probably 120+ of the Div I coaches are smart enough to have a burner or some fall back plan.
Hugh Freeze just took a dump all over his legacy. He set his family up for ridicule. He's got 3 daughters that have to step out in their very public lives and that isn't going to be easy. Good, Bad or Indifferent it's a lot different when you are running around preaching integrity, legacy and whatever other B.S. he could whistle through those rat teeth of his.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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I think Dustin's right. They'd have found something involving recruits in the last 3-4 years if that was going on with all the digging and such. If it happened, one of the recruits who got immunity probably would have said something.
Out there somewhere now, though, are some writers trying to track down the hookers who Freeze got all comfy with. Someone will. She'll talk.
Wonder when Freeze will go all Jimmy Swaggart with the tears and "Ahhh have sinnnneeddd!" recovery restoration performance?
Also will be interesting to see if his fellow coaches support him like others did for Art Briles, or will hold him at arm's length during the toxic climate.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: Clem]
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07/21/17 04:44 AM
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Out there somewhere now, though, are some writers trying to track down the hookers who Freeze got all comfy with. Someone will. She'll talk.
No way she's going to talk. Not even the offer of a lot of money will make her lose her dignity.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Freeze buying whores for himself, he's gone, career just took a nose dive, may lose his family. Freeze buying whores for recruits and OM is looking down the proverbial barrel. The school better be saying that ole Hugh had the libido of a 3 peckered Billy goat..
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
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Nutt lost his job trying to catch a Nutt?
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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I saw an article today that said that it was all him, not for recruits. Like a sailor with a wife in every port, he has a hooker in every town.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: Clem]
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Wonder when Freeze will go all Jimmy Swaggart with the tears and "Ahhh have sinnnneeddd!" recovery restoration performance?
Dang it Clem, that's downright funny!!! I suspect more and more and more is gonna come out regarding OM and the things they've done to get players. Y'all remember when Nmendeechee (however it's spelled) announced on signing day that he was going to OM? Everyone was shocked... why OM? With what Freeze has now done, it makes all those big recruiting snags over the years very suspect........ I wonder if the AD at OM has called Les yet?......
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Ain't no suspect to it. The first time they started signing multiple bigstudplayers, everyone knew. It was only a matter of time. He got greedy. You go after one or two, get them in, build slowly, etc. You don't sign a gaggle of them 2-3 years in a row and not get the red flags waving at the NCAA offices. Freeze turned into Frankie Carbone from Goodfellas. He got greedy and showy and bought the furs and Cadillacs and strutted around under the protection of God while being part of the dark side. Now Freeze is hanging in the meat locker. This is a great look at the deal: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/26777...ing-a-cfb-coach
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What a pure IDOT to think he could get away with this as public of a figure as he is. He's going to lose his family and respect of everyone around him. I know we all are vulnerable to falling down, but dang what a moron. Can't imagine what his poor wife and daughters are experiencing now. A la Mike Price; what a dumbazz he was.
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07/21/17 11:26 AM
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We all know some recruiting violations and some illegal benefits occurred by boosters and lower level coaching staff. No doubt and punishment fitting the violations is appropriate.
But the sentiment that Ole Miss couldn't get high level recruits without paying high school players to sign or some top secret cash system in place once they enrolled is in my opinion, unfounded, and seems like pride getting in the way of facts. Some school other than the expected schools doing well...some people can't stand.
Freeze and his staff were excellent recruiters. Ole Miss has a lot to offer as far as school and campus life. Play in SEC west against best competition in the nation, play early, path to NFL, etc... And that has nothing to do with cheating. We've all seen schools make coaching changes and see immediate huge upswings in recruiting. Some people have it.
Ole Miss rule breaking: Stupid, wrong and unnecessary. We'll get punished severely. Did Freeze really promote this culture or turn a blind eye? None of us really actually know. More truth will eventually come out on this.
Freeze and the escorts...well I'll be honest-I'm very very disappointed. I don't know what is true or speculation but the truth will eventually come out too. If any of the allegations are true, he damaged his family, players and the University...and he needed to leave.
Freeze is a Christian. Freeze is also a sinner, like we all are. His dark secrets are his sin nature left unchecked and unchanged. Simply wrong on many levels. Some people though are loving, seriously giddy, that a professed Christian rival coach who publicly shares his faith has stumbled and fallen. I think that is shameful and wrong thinking. Don't get me wrong...no excuse for the wrongdoing by Freeze, but enjoying someone's downfall is 100% pathetic.
One truth in this: Light ALWAYS exposes the darkness; the message of Christ is still true and valid even if delivered by imperfect messenger.
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"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
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Something just seems fishy about the whole thing to me. I'm going to wait until Freeze gets a chance to tell his side of the story. I'm hoping for his family's sake that there's more to the story
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Something just seems fishy about the whole thing to me. I'm going to wait until Freeze gets a chance to tell his side of the story. I'm hoping for his family's sake that there's more to the story Oh; I expect there is more to the story, but not good.
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07/21/17 01:34 PM
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Everyone screws up but he portrayed a false image all the while doing it. At least Tiger Woods didn't shame Christians and Christianity.
Hugh Freeze didn't shame Christians or Christianity. Christians know that sin is very real, a spiritual battle is being waged, and unless you stand firm you will stumble. Freeze shamed his family, friends, players, fans and himself on a personal level. Not just shame but real hurt and harm. I'll give you this though: His work for Christ has been negated now...a big deal because he was a role model. Christ still loves him and will forgive him if he is repentant in his heart. That's what really matters here. Tiger Woods isn't a Christian at all with serious eternal consequences. So somehow that's better? Logical disconnect.
"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
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Something just seems fishy about the whole thing to me. I'm going to wait until Freeze gets a chance to tell his side of the story. I'm hoping for his family's sake that there's more to the story That's the same thing Gov Bentley said
Lone Watie: I'm glad you stopped me when you did. I might have killed her
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I know Hugh freezes nephew and cousin. Let's just say this must run in the family.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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I know Hugh freezes nephew and cousin. Let's just say this must run in the family. My granddaddy was a nut, when I was 18, he told me....."Son, always be aware of the power of pussy". Ive alway thought about that, it has taken many of man down!!
Lone Watie: I'm glad you stopped me when you did. I might have killed her
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I know Hugh freezes nephew and cousin. Let's just say this must run in the family. My granddaddy was a nut, when I was 18, he told me....."Son, always be aware of the power of pussy". Ive alway thought about that, it has taken many of man down!! "Half the money, and all the pussy,.... which means sooner or later, you'll get all the money" Is what a wise man once told me about women
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Just further proof that some people can't deal with fame and money. Personally, I couldn't care less about the fame but I would like the challenge of staying a decent person with a load of money.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Just further proof that some people can't deal with fame and money. Personally, I could NOT care less about the fame but I would like the challenge of staying a decent person with a load of money. ^^
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My granddaddy was a nut, when I was 18, he told me....."Son, always be aware of the power of pussy". Ive alway thought about that, it has taken many of man down!!
Pu$$y is the undefeated champion of the world.
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Everyone screws up but he portrayed a false image all the while doing it. At least Tiger Woods didn't shame Christians and Christianity.
Hugh Freeze didn't shame Christians or Christianity. Christians know that sin is very real, a spiritual battle is being waged, and unless you stand firm you will stumble. Tiger Woods isn't a Christian at all with serious eternal consequences. So somehow that's better?. I get all that. And I think we are saying kind of the same thing. My point was that it isn't a good look when one of your public leaders screws up. See the catholic priests for reference.
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We all know some recruiting violations and some illegal benefits occurred by boosters and lower level coaching staff. No doubt and punishment fitting the violations is appropriate.
But the sentiment that Ole Miss couldn't get high level recruits without paying high school players to sign or some top secret cash system in place once they enrolled is in my opinion, unfounded, and seems like pride getting in the way of facts. Some school other than the expected schools doing well...some people can't stand.
Freeze and his staff were excellent recruiters. Ole Miss has a lot to offer as far as school and campus life. Play in SEC west against best competition in the nation, play early, path to NFL, etc... And that has nothing to do with cheating. We've all seen schools make coaching changes and see immediate huge upswings in recruiting. Some people have it.
Ole Miss rule breaking: Stupid, wrong and unnecessary. We'll get punished severely. Did Freeze really promote this culture or turn a blind eye? None of us really actually know. More truth will eventually come out on this.
Freeze and the escorts...well I'll be honest-I'm very very disappointed. I don't know what is true or speculation but the truth will eventually come out too. If any of the allegations are true, he damaged his family, players and the University...and he needed to leave.
Freeze is a Christian. Freeze is also a sinner, like we all are. His dark secrets are his sin nature left unchecked and unchanged. Simply wrong on many levels. Some people though are loving, seriously giddy, that a professed Christian rival coach who publicly shares his faith has stumbled and fallen. I think that is shameful and wrong thinking. Don't get me wrong...no excuse for the wrongdoing by Freeze, but enjoying someone's downfall is 100% pathetic.
One truth in this: Light ALWAYS exposes the darkness; the message of Christ is still true and valid even if delivered by imperfect messenger. Straycat. I agree with a lot of what you have to say however I think you are missing a big part of what bothers people about his situation. Freeze used God and Christianity in furtherance of his own personal ambitions and wanted others to live a life he was unwilling to live himself. Furthermore, it is well known he would call reporters behind the scenes and admonish them for challenging him or his alleged "faith" in public. The man is a false prophet in every sense, and this is why some people are reveling in his downfall. True believers are easily identified by their actions, not their words. In my experience, people who feel the need to tell others what a good Christian they are, are the people who are running a con.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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I guess it is possible that I've missed some interviews or speeches over the last 5 years. But I've never seen Freeze speak about how "good" of a Christian he is, never heard him spout that he was better than anyone else as far as faith is concerned. But he has publicly preached and promoted the need for Jesus and spoke to encourage young men to live right. Speaking up doesn't always mean that someone is self righteous. I've followed the program thru the media and I've attended multiple events and fundraisers where Freeze has spoken/preached. But perhaps I've missed it.
Was he living one way while talking a different way? Yes, apparently so. He really made some horrible decisions which are doing great damage on multiple fronts.
I'm not trying to protect him. But some of the comments I see are just inaccurate or speculative while others are enjoying the downfall. Freeze brought this on himself by not standing firm in the face of temptation. No way around that.
I think Ben Franklin (or someone else?) said this about heroes:
It's always best to choose a hero or role model from history (already dead) because the living can still disappoint you
"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
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Nutt lost his job trying to catch a Nutt bust a nut? FIFY
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Wow!!!! I apologize Auburn fans I thought Cecil,Cam, and Auburn were some of the dirtiest in the country, but I'm afraid once the NCAA gets done with Ole Miss, and everything comes, it will make what Miami did look good!!! Stay tuned, and if you've never listened to Paul Finebaum tomorrow would be a good day!! Don't sell Auburn short jake, Cecil,cam and the barn are still "some of the dirtiest in the country" said the Repeat offender with the near Death Penalty experience. Albert Means says hello Just kidding tigger....... just pokin fun while Hugh was pokin
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We'll find out more as things progress, but I learned a lesson at a very young age.
Had a preacher mess up my best friend's family when I was in junior high. It pissed me off to no end. My Momma, bless her heart, pointed out that we shouldn't expect any figure of authority to act better than the rest of us, because we are all held to the same moral standard by God. I realized as a young kid, that she spoke a basic human truth, and I have lived my life based on that for the last 35 years.
I've held that truth to this day. And I expect any red-blooded, married man with a wife and children to hold to the same morals and ethics that are expected of all Christians.
Hugh Freeze is a weak, fallen man who had no respect for his wife, his children, his employer and the young men on his team. He was expected to lead young men, many who had weak moral backgrounds due their family backgrounds, he was the figurehead for a large institution, and he was rewarded with $5 million per year for his position. I pity the person who defends him.
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Rumors are older than that, wasn't he a high school coach a few years ago....... Ii believe he was at Briarcrest in Memphis till 2009(?); where he also coached the girls basketball team; makes you go Hmmm?
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From the story, and you know this is true:
"It's going to get worse and there's going to be a lot more that's coming."
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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My favorite line about the OM/MSU rivalry: "It's the two runt puppies in the SEC West fighting for the hind teat. When you finally get locked on that hind teat, you do whatever you have to do to stay there, even if the other guy has to starve."
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Must be really ugly right now if AU-UA is compared to Sunday School.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Must be really ugly right now if AU-UA is compared to Sunday School.
Shock and aw. Getting the most out of a hot story. Remember Houston Nutt was at fault? That was the first reports until proven otherwise. No matter what comes out, I'll take it cautiously. Worse than UA and AU? Wouldn't be hard to do in my opinion. USUALLY, UA-AU are boosters and fans and not the coaches and school. This is the HC and representative of school. Just my opinion.
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USUALLY, UA-AU are boosters and fans and not the coaches and school. Most definitely.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Must be really ugly right now if AU-UA is compared to Sunday School.
Shock and aw. Getting the most out of a hot story. Remember Houston Nutt was at fault? That was the first reports until proven otherwise. No matter what comes out, I'll take it cautiously. Worse than UA and AU? Wouldn't be hard to do in my opinion. USUALLY, UA-AU are boosters and fans and not the coaches and school. This is the HC and representative of school. Just my opinion. Most schools, AU and Alabama included, have a coach on staff who facilitates and coordinates "extra benefits". Lance Thompson was about as blatant as they come. Sure, the money comes from boosters but there is usually an assistant that is in the know. Remember Eric Ramsey?
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Must be really ugly right now if AU-UA is compared to Sunday School.
Shock and aw. Getting the most out of a hot story. Remember Houston Nutt was at fault? That was the first reports until proven otherwise. No matter what comes out, I'll take it cautiously. Worse than UA and AU? Wouldn't be hard to do in my opinion. USUALLY, UA-AU are boosters and fans and not the coaches and school. This is the HC and representative of school. Just my opinion. Most schools, AU and Alabama included, have a coach on staff who facilitates and coordinates "extra benefits". Lance Thompson was about as blatant as they come. Sure, the money comes from boosters but there is usually an assistant that is in the know. Remember Eric Ramsey? The smart coaches, and it is generally the ones higher up, insulate themselves from the shady goings on. "Plausible deniability" is the key term. Of course that is why there is a charge of Lack of Institutional Control. To exclude the plausible deniability defense.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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07/25/17 05:45 AM
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Coaches have had assistants for decades. They drive the car when the coach has had one too many with the boys at the QB club dinner, or the coach needs to make calls or do whatever. Handles the bags. He's the coach's valet. Keeps things on schedule. Sort of like the coach's Chief of Staff, a gatekeeper of sorts along with the coach's secretary (who is the real gatekeeper). Nothing wrong with that in this busy day and time.
Somewhere within the coaching-advisor-assistant-WhatDoesHeDo? hierarchy is The Guy. He does things that people don't want or need to know about. He's the buffer, the plausible deniability guy, the guy who knows if he slips up things can go sideways and he probably would/could be the fall guy. He knows the secrets and whatnot. He's the one who someone might say "I need to go meet with a guy about a thing" and something gets handled.
The Guy is at every school or is closely associated with it. Always has been. Always will be. Ain't a secret, ain't a "Yeah, but OUR team doesn't do that" situation. All of them do it. Everyone has The Guy somewhere in the group.
In reference to Ramsey, folks got stupid and Twileeta was bending his ear telling him he was a slave working for the man not getting his fair share of the riches. AU screwed up and got sloppy.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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We are getting off subject but I have always thought "they all do it". If they all do it how can Alabama be consistently better than Ole Miss....or just about all SEC teams? They are all doing it. Because recruiting and tradition still play a big part in where a kid chooses to go and Alabama has the best of both. Some players don't need as much as others and some need a lot done for them. Most times , from what I've seen, it's just a few dollars and maybe a car. Other times it's a house and job for mom and cars for the player. I've only met two players personally that made it clear where their car came from and that was a long, long time ago. In the last few years I've talked with a realtor , who was a good friend, that was told to find a house for a prominent players mother. I also met a booster at a big school that talked a lot but could have been making up everything he told me. About 5 years ago I met an NCAA attorney who was liquored up and talking pretty good about what they "knew" but couldn't prove. I don't really think it's cheating if everyone is doing it.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
[Re: centralala]
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07/25/17 11:21 AM
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If they all do it how can Alabama be consistently better than Ole Miss....or just about all SEC teams? They are all doing it. Bill nailed it in his first line. Alabama's recruiting and tradition are superior and/or on another tier, and especially now with Saban there and his coaching, methods, processes, pathways to the NFL and so forth. Just like Kentucky with basketball. It doesn't mean they're clean as virgins in the first winter snowfall. But it's foolhardy to not believe some universities-teams are just more attractive and that carries over on a consistent basis. Whatever else comes along for players and/or parents in the form of benefits likely is gravy. Get away from the Power schools and look at North Dakota State. Who the hell would want to spend winters in North Dakota? I mean, there are things to do but if you're a really good football player, you go there when you maybe could go elsewhere even if you walk on? To North Dakota? It's $*(@$#* cold as whale shizzle there in winter. But their football program is consistently good. It may not be a Power team like OSU or Meechegan or Alabama but for that level of play, it's where players want to go because of the facilities, tradition, consistency and a chance to win championships.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
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07/25/17 12:31 PM
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They never had even a good recruiting class before Freeze. From what I heard Orgeron recruited good players while he was there
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Re: FREEZE GONE
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07/25/17 01:01 PM
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If they all do it how can Alabama be consistently better than Ole Miss....or just about all SEC teams? They are all doing it. Bill nailed it in his first line. Alabama's recruiting and tradition are superior and/or on another tier, and especially now with Saban there and his coaching, methods, processes, pathways to the NFL and so forth. Just like Kentucky with basketball. It doesn't mean they're clean as virgins in the first winter snowfall. But it's foolhardy to not believe some universities-teams are just more attractive and that carries over on a consistent basis. Whatever else comes along for players and/or parents in the form of benefits likely is gravy. Get away from the Power schools and look at North Dakota State. Who the hell would want to spend winters in North Dakota? I mean, there are things to do but if you're a really good football player, you go there when you maybe could go elsewhere even if you walk on? To North Dakota? It's $*(@$#* cold as whale shizzle there in winter. But their football program is consistently good. It may not be a Power team like OSU or Meechegan or Alabama but for that level of play, it's where players want to go because of the facilities, tradition, consistency and a chance to win championships. I think he left out 1: Perception. Perception plays as big a role as tradition. If you get a scholly to UA now the perception is you are a great player and will have a shot at the NFL. With all this, I still can't figure why or how Texas can't run with big boys EVERY year.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
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07/25/17 01:09 PM
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They never had even a good recruiting class before Freeze. From what I heard Orgeron recruited good players while he was there The Big O is a good recruiter. I think he'll do well at LSU just based on the talent that he'll have as the only SEC school in a talent rich state. The days of other SEC teams poaching Louisiana are going to be greatly reduced.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
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07/25/17 01:20 PM
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They never had even a good recruiting class before Freeze. From what I heard Orgeron recruited good players while he was there The Big O is a good recruiter. I think he'll do well at LSU just based on the talent that he'll have as the only SEC school in a talent rich state. The days of other SEC teams poaching Louisiana are going to be greatly reduced. Lol, no. Alabama will still take who they want from Louisiana, as Saban has for 10 years
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Re: FREEZE GONE
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07/25/17 01:24 PM
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With all this, I still can't figure why or how Texas can't run with big boys EVERY year.
Too much ego, too many fingers in the steer's ass, living on the "Eh, we're Texas. Who would want to go to Baylor or TCU or Houston or, of all places, Tech?" Basically, a little of what Alabama went through post-Stallings and pre-Saban. Some of the old guard thinking their @$(* didn't stink, ever, and not listening to anyone, and anyone who wouldn't deign to join the great ranks wasn't worthy of anything ever no-way no-how despite months earlier during recruiting being the bestest thing ever in the world. Bunch of folks at Texas still going through that, along with some being dipshit racists and undercutting Charlie Strong (and Strong not adapting as quickly as he needed to, too). Lot of stuff going on at Texas. They floundered around too long on the curve and are playing catch-up now.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: FREEZE GONE
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07/25/17 02:02 PM
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They never had even a good recruiting class before Freeze. From what I heard Orgeron recruited good players while he was there The Big O is a good recruiter. I think he'll do well at LSU just based on the talent that he'll have as the only SEC school in a talent rich state. The days of other SEC teams poaching Louisiana are going to be greatly reduced. Lol, no. Alabama will still take who they want from Louisiana, as Saban has for 10 years ROW TYDE DAMN SABAN TO THAT
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Re: FREEZE GONE
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07/25/17 02:04 PM
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On a serious note, but how many coonass head coaches has LSU had in the last 10 years?
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Re: FREEZE GONE
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They never had even a good recruiting class before Freeze. From what I heard Orgeron recruited good players while he was there Freeze was on Orgeron's coaching staff as a recruiter.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
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07/26/17 04:23 AM
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They never had even a good recruiting class before Freeze. From what I heard Orgeron recruited good players while he was there The Big O is a good recruiter. I think he'll do well at LSU just based on the talent that he'll have as the only SEC school in a talent rich state. The days of other SEC teams poaching Louisiana are going to be greatly reduced. Bama got the #1 linebacker in the nation from right under "O"'s nose.....Keep an eye on Dylan Moses. He is a beast at LB. "O" tried so hard to keep him at LSU but came in 2nd to Saban.
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Re: FREEZE GONE
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07/29/17 03:03 PM
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Those look like small potatoes bagmen- where are the $10,000 + guys plus the suppliers of the "escorts"?
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