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Re: First lever action
[Re: chris3954]
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Pistol calibers are great for brush hunting. Big, heavy bullets and weight of a rifle to mitigate recoil.
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Re: First lever action
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07/16/17 03:04 PM
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The .35 Remington is a great cartridge for a Marlin lever rifle. http://www.chuckhawks.com/35Rem.htmOr you could opt for the Nuclear Option and get a .45-70. OTOH, there's nothing wrong with the .30-30 and there have probably been more deer killed with it than with any other cartridge in North American (and most certainly in the southeastern United States).
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Re: First lever action
[Re: chris3954]
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07/16/17 03:19 PM
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Good article. I already shoot a 7mag 700 LOL! Leaning towards the 336C 35 Rem. Dang these rifles are purdy
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Re: First lever action
[Re: chris3954]
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07/16/17 04:39 PM
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Mxlr in stainless. Caliber is your choice. A .35 is a great round. Then there is the .308 Marlin express and the grandaddy of em all 45-70 which is my favorite
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Re: First lever action
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07/17/17 03:59 AM
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Go with the .35 or 45/70. Both hit game like sledgehammers. ^^This^^
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Re: First lever action
[Re: chris3954]
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07/17/17 04:14 AM
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I'd just do 30-30 because of ammo availability.
I like .35 the best though for deer.
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Re: First lever action
[Re: chris3954]
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07/17/17 04:25 AM
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I've got a 35 and love it.
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Re: First lever action
[Re: chris3954]
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07/18/17 03:42 AM
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.45-70...............when you pull the trigger a school bus comes flying out the end of the barrel.
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Re: First lever action
[Re: chris3954]
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07/18/17 07:29 AM
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I have 35 marlin and love it.
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Re: First lever action
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07/19/17 04:47 AM
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Depends on the load a 350gr at 1900 shows 37.9 on the recoil tables. That's just a touch more than a 375 H&H.
For reference a 30-06 with a 180 is about 20 on the table. Out of a .45-70 a 300 at 1800fps is about 24. Not that bad.
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Re: First lever action
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07/19/17 07:01 AM
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I would go 45-70 first, 30-30 2nd, and 35rem 3rd. I really dont understand the 45-70 recoil argument. A marlin 1895 with factory recoil pad and factory Winchester, federal, or Remington loads really doesn't recoil all that much. It is more of a soft push than a punch. IMO a 12ga or a 30/06 has worse recoil than 45-70. Get a ported version or have it ported and it will kick similar or less than the 30-30 nearly. Again recoil feels different to everybody but to me a marlin 45-70 is pretty mild. I guess what I am saying is dont let that be the deciding factor. What did you say about getting something ported? I couldn't hear you. I have this ringing in my ears most of the time.
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Re: First lever action
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07/19/17 07:32 AM
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I would go 45-70 first, 30-30 2nd, and 35rem 3rd. I really dont understand the 45-70 recoil argument. A marlin 1895 with factory recoil pad and factory Winchester, federal, or Remington loads really doesn't recoil all that much. It is more of a soft push than a punch. IMO a 12ga or a 30/06 has worse recoil than 45-70. Get a ported version or have it ported and it will kick similar or less than the 30-30 nearly. Again recoil feels different to everybody but to me a marlin 45-70 is pretty mild. I guess what I am saying is dont let that be the deciding factor. What did you say about getting something ported? I couldn't hear you. I have this ringing in my ears most of the time. Hold on, let me take my hearing pro off to respond.
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Re: First lever action
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07/19/17 10:06 AM
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I would go 45-70 first, 30-30 2nd, and 35rem 3rd. I really dont understand the 45-70 recoil argument. A marlin 1895 with factory recoil pad and factory Winchester, federal, or Remington loads really doesn't recoil all that much. It is more of a soft push than a punch. IMO a 12ga or a 30/06 has worse recoil than 45-70. Get a ported version or have it ported and it will kick similar or less than the 30-30 nearly. Again recoil feels different to everybody but to me a marlin 45-70 is pretty mild. I guess what I am saying is dont let that be the deciding factor. What did you say about getting something ported? I couldn't hear you. I have this ringing in my ears most of the time. I'll never buy a ported gun (barring a .50 cal)If I can't handle the recoil then I won't buy it.
Two roads diverged in the woods and I took the one with deep ruts,hills and mud.It may be bumpy but WHAT A RIDE!
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Re: First lever action
[Re: chris3954]
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07/19/17 01:07 PM
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Exactly. I had a ported 1895G. Shot two deer in one sitting with it and was cringing waiting for the report on the 2nd shot. Shot a hog with it not long after and decided it just wasn't for me. Too Loud!!
I might have an non-ported version again one day... it was cool no doubt. But I have a 16" JM Marlin 336 30-30 that gives me the same results that 45/70 did with a lot less blast. Handy woods gun that kills critters dead.
Honestly I'd buy a 44 Mag before I bought a 45/70 next time around.
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Re: First lever action
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Try shooting a Browning 7mag with the Boss system. Good lord, it's been almost 20yrs since I sold that gun and my ears are still ringing. My FIL has one in .300 wthby.............it is absolutely brutal to be near when he's shooting. he can be on the other side of the property and it sounds like artillery.
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Re: First lever action
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07/20/17 02:06 PM
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Try shooting a Browning 7mag with the Boss system. Good lord, it's been almost 20yrs since I sold that gun and my ears are still ringing. I had a .300 Winnie Mag with a BOSS...stupid loud! Friend of mine laid it across the hood of his truck to shoot it once, it knocked all the mud off the bottom of his truck and cracked his windshield! Don't miss that rifle a bit!
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Re: First lever action
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07/20/17 04:16 PM
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Both my ported 45-70's were loud but I didn't feel any blast like you do from a muzzle brake. The ports are towards the top of the barrel so no blowing the guy next to you hat off. ALL 45-70's sound like a cannon so a little porting doesn't bother me. But i understand its not for everybody or every gun. My 1895sbl is getting threaded for my hybrid that is sitting in jail.
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Re: First lever action
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07/21/17 04:10 AM
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My Marlin 30/30 is the first gun I reach for during deer season.
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Re: First lever action
[Re: chris3954]
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07/23/17 05:11 PM
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If you are the hunter that starts looking in the local hardware stores for ammo a week before season,you don't need the 35 Rem. Just buy a 30/30. Either of the 3 will all kill deer at the distance I would shoot a lever gun anyway. Don't get the 45/70 though unless you enjoy shooting 12 ga slugs out of a single barrel.
4 choices available right now at Midway in the 35 Rem. If I wanted one,I would buy 200 rounds and load my own. You can buy one of those little Lee Classic loaders for about $30 that would work in a pinch.
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Re: First lever action
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If you are the hunter that starts looking in the local hardware stores for ammo a week before season,you don't need the 35 Rem. Just buy a 30/30. Either of the 3 will all kill deer at the distance I would shoot a lever gun anyway. Don't get the 45/70 though unless you enjoy shooting 12 ga slugs out of a single barrel.
4 choices available right now at Midway in the 35 Rem. If I wanted one,I would buy 200 rounds and load my own. You can buy one of those little Lee Classic loaders for about $30 that would work in a pinch. I do roll my own for my rifles, when he had issues finding ammo that year not one if the gun stores in cullman had any flavor of 35 rem. Vans sporting goods couldnt order any because of a backorder i want to say it was around the same time frame 223,22lr,5.56, was hard to find to that year in stock or not backordered. I've tried to get him to reload for that rifle told him all he'd have to buy is the dies,powder, bullets and we'd load them up at my place. He now buys 3 boxes every fall when the local gun stores get it in. Ordering rifle rounds online isnt really feasible unless you was buying 308,223,5.56, etc military surplus stuff. Most hunting rounds are with in a dollar or two from the local stores then you have to add shipping and handling and it ends up costing you more money
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Re: First lever action
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07/26/17 07:39 AM
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If you are the hunter that starts looking in the local hardware stores for ammo a week before season,you don't need the 35 Rem. Just buy a 30/30. Either of the 3 will all kill deer at the distance I would shoot a lever gun anyway. Don't get the 45/70 though unless you enjoy shooting 12 ga slugs out of a single barrel.
4 choices available right now at Midway in the 35 Rem. If I wanted one,I would buy 200 rounds and load my own. You can buy one of those little Lee Classic loaders for about $30 that would work in a pinch. I do roll my own for my rifles, when he had issues finding ammo that year not one if the gun stores in cullman had any flavor of 35 rem. Vans sporting goods couldnt order any because of a backorder i want to say it was around the same time frame 223,22lr,5.56, was hard to find to that year in stock or not backordered. I've tried to get him to reload for that rifle told him all he'd have to buy is the dies,powder, bullets and we'd load them up at my place. He now buys 3 boxes every fall when the local gun stores get it in. Ordering rifle rounds online isnt really feasible unless you was buying 308,223,5.56, etc military surplus stuff. Most hunting rounds are with in a dollar or two from the local stores then you have to add shipping and handling and it ends up costing you more money I completely understand. Sometimes though during the summer months you can get free shipping and if you drive around much you are spending just as much as shipping. I remember those days when ammo about dried up.That's when I decided to start loading my own. It doesn't matter what you shoot,IMHO every hunter should have at least 100 rounds sitting in the safe at all times and just shoot what he loads or buys. The days of buying a box the night before the season opens are over. Just stock up all through the year when it is available.
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Re: First lever action
[Re: chris3954]
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07/27/17 02:13 AM
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Ive been wanting a 308mxlr for yeeeears. The accuracy and knockdown is excellent but the rifle is pricey and ammo is too if you can get it. chris if you were closer Id let you shoot my 30-30,.35 and 45-70 to see which you like the best. I had a 375 winchester that I shouldn't have sold. That was a great round as well
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Re: First lever action
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07/27/17 07:32 AM
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Ive been wanting a 308mxlr for yeeeears. The accuracy and knockdown is excellent but the rifle is pricey and ammo is too if you can get it. chris if you were closer Id let you shoot my 30-30,.35 and 45-70 to see which you like the best. I had a 375 winchester that I shouldn't have sold. That was a great round as well Midway had some of the ammo under $30 a box. That was one of the first things I looked at when that unfamiliar round was mentioned.
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Re: First lever action
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07/27/17 10:56 AM
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The last rifle I found was close to 750.00. laminated stock,stainless steel. I'm drooling thinking about it I can understand the drooling,I just never did it over a lever action. They seem to have too much drop in the stock and don't fit me well at all trying to use a scope. I wouldn't mind one though if I could find one with a very straight stock and fed by a mag like the Savage 99,so I could shoot different calibers. I always thought a 358 Win Savage 99 might be worth trying though.
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Re: First lever action
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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R.H. have you ever shouldered a browning blr? They are a little different as far as feel but are still a lever action. You can get a lot of different calibers in them and they look very nice
Two roads diverged in the woods and I took the one with deep ruts,hills and mud.It may be bumpy but WHAT A RIDE!
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Re: First lever action
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07/27/17 02:44 PM
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R.H. have you ever shouldered a browning blr? They are a little different as far as feel but are still a lever action. You can get a lot of different calibers in them and they look very nice Yea,but it's been a long while,maybe 10 years. I've just gotten used these last few years to bolt action rifles with very straight stocks. The stocks are so straight you couldn't get your eye low enough if they had iron sights to line them up, but with a scope I get the same kind of cheek weld I use to get only with iron sights. I do remember the BLR to be very smooth operating and good looking rifle.
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Re: First lever action
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07/28/17 04:30 AM
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I think the cheek weld problem is essentially summed up like this.... the lever guns are intended to be used with irons in design. If you mount a scope something compact with very low rings is the way to go. That forces you to use a hammer extension most of the time but all mine are setup with compact scopes and they don't really bother me. Scopes 40mm and over do bother me however and you do in fact tend to get a chin weld instead of a cheek weld so that is a valid observation by Mr. Clark.
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