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Simply incredible D-line at UA #2158799
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Big doesn't always equal success but it can help. These guys definitely will be interesting to watch this season.

From Bruce Feldman at Sports Illustrated:

The Crimson Tide have some Freaky D-linemen. Jamar King is a 290-pounder who was clocked at a sub 4.8, according to AL.com earlier this spring. Towering Raekwon Davis, a 6’7”, 315-pounder, ran 5.1. Former No. 1 overall recruit Da’Shawn Hand is another guy who turns heads.

Payne, though, is their headliner this year. He helped anchor the nation’s top defense in 2016. He’s shed about 10 pounds this off-season and figures to be even more of a headache for rival offenses. At 310 pounds, he was timed at 5.03 after running a 4.93 40 last spring. He also benched pressed 545 pounds.

https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/07/07/freaks-list-workout-warriors-2017-part-3


Back in the early '90s, I interviewed Joe King after he got out of prison in Florida. I'd been around some big guys at AU and UA but he was just a tremendously big, tall, thick, muscular guy. Just shockingly big to me. (Also was humble, at the time, and IMO truly desiring to get his life in order, which didn't happen, unfortunately.)

And now guys of this size aren't common everywhere but they're not completely unusual anymore. Kinda goes to the "are we in the best era for athletes?" thread. Guys this big, this athletic, this strong and speedy? Amazing.


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What is scary is that Clemson has 2 guys on that list....

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Lot of money flowing thru IPTAY now!


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The size AND speed of the current athletes are on another level from previous generation.
For instance; linebacker Dylan Moses ran a 4.46 at 6-3, 235.

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Originally Posted By: burbank
What is scary is that Clemson has 2 guys on that list....



If I was Gus, I'd be scared too.... smile


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I hope every one of them has the flu, Mono, and bad foot fungal itch on Sept. 2nd, 2017.

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If they can't stop Bama's offense from going 3 and out the whole second half then it doesn't matter. Saban screwed the team by getting rid of Kiffin when he did. Sark didn't have a clue how to move the chains in the second half. Kiffin would've pulled something out of his back pocket to get us a first down (remember when we threw it to the big offensive lineman?)


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If they can't stop Bama's offense from going 3 and out the whole second half then it doesn't matter. Saban screwed the team by getting rid of Kiffin when he did. Sark didn't have a clue how to move the chains in the second half. Kiffin would've pulled something out of his back pocket to get us a first down (remember when we threw it to the big offensive lineman?)


I thought you guys didn't live in the past! laugh


I think it would have been interesting to sit with Kiffin during that game to have him chart/call plays based on what he was watching.


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Originally Posted By: Phil_Army
If they can't stop Bama's offense from going 3 and out the whole second half then it doesn't matter. Saban screwed the team by getting rid of Kiffin when he did. Sark didn't have a clue how to move the chains in the second half. Kiffin would've pulled something out of his back pocket to get us a first down (remember when we threw it to the big offensive lineman?)


Hard to say...Kiffin laid some turds while he was there, as well. The entire last part of the season in 2016 wasn't very pretty from an offensive standpoint, once folks figured out Hurts wasn't much of a downfield passing threat.


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Originally Posted By: Phil_Army
If they can't stop Bama's offense from going 3 and out the whole second half then it doesn't matter. Saban screwed the team by getting rid of Kiffin when he did. Sark didn't have a clue how to move the chains in the second half. Kiffin would've pulled something out of his back pocket to get us a first down (remember when we threw it to the big offensive lineman?)


Hard to say...Kiffin laid some turds while he was there, as well. The entire last part of the season in 2016 wasn't very pretty from an offensive standpoint, once folks figured out Hurts wasn't much of a downfield passing threat.


True. Didn't Hurts go to the Manning's QB camp this summer? Hopefully he picked up some things. I like the kid. I also like the slingin' Hawaiin. Tua said in an interview that one big reason he picked BAMA was because he is a christian and he liked how people down here aren't afraid to show that they are christians. I thought was pretty cool.


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I can't imagine being as big AND, at the same time, as fast as those guys. It's just a surreal combination to me.


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Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
I can't imagine being as big AND, at the same time, as fast as those guys. It's just a surreal combination to me.


I wouldnt want to piss one off.


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Saban knows you have to have a complete team, but the DL and the LB is the heart of a team IMHO. Saban is putting together 3 or 4 great linebacker classes right now.

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Growing up in the 70's and 80's there weren't that many big imposing players around but now..good grief. I go around these guys occasionally when my wife is working with them. I'm not a big guy but around those guys I'm really small. They're massive


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I think John Hannah played at about 274# as the top pro guard. I doubt there is a guard in the NFL that weighs that or less.

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Back in 1990 or '91, sometime around there, former UA lineman Joe King got out of prison and was back home in the Gadsden area. I went down to interview him over dinner at a Quincy's restaurant.

He already was there and when he stood up to shake my hand an introduce himself, I literally was shocked at his size. I'd only seen one other guy similar -- Steve Wilson, an offensive lineman at Auburn who played a couple of years and left -- but Joe was just different. Physically imposing, muscular, in good shape despite being in prison, and it was just shocking to me that a guy THAT big could be a mobile, fast, lineman and/or football player.

Today, he'd be just another big guy on the line most likely.

An aside, he was one of the best interviews I'd ever had. Honest about what had happened, said he wanted to turn things around, polite. He battled a bunch of demons and fell to the wayside again, which I hated to see happen.


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Originally Posted By: Clem


Today, he'd be just another big guy on the line most likely.



I was discussing that with someone the other day. I remember Roosevelt Patterson being a giant when I was a kid.

Looking back at 1992 Alabama Roster he was listed at 290, (so probably a little less).

He was biggest on team. One of only 3 over 280.

Alabama's roster today has 22 players over 300, biggest at 350.

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It is truly amazing to see what some of the big guys are capable of now. The speed and agility of someone that weights 300+ is something hard to truly grasp until they are running at you and then you completely understand how momentum works. shocked


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