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Auburn Brethren #2165052
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What are your thoughts on Gus and the SEC media days? Is it JJ all over again or will the GusBus finally get traction this year?


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All of the coaches were pumping sunshine.

I feel good, not great. We will what Auburn is about week 2. I like their chances.

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Auburn has the players. The coaching----meh........Maybe since Gus has stopped calling the offensive plays, things will progress.

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Cautiously optimistic. Having some actual depth at quarterback and majority of other positions should go a long way. I do have more faith in the Stidham than I ever did in JJ. But as an Auburn fan, preseason optimism and end of year wondering what in the hell happened kind of go hand in hand. We shall see. 50 days fellas.


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Originally Posted By: bobwallace
Cautiously optimistic. Having some actual depth at quarterback and majority of other positions should go a long way. I do have more faith in the Stidham than I ever did in JJ. But as an Auburn fan, preseason optimism and end of year wondering what in the hell happened kind of go hand in hand. We shall see. 50 days fellas.


Couldn't have said it better. It would appear that we have the pieces to win but we'll see if they can put them together. I will be interested to see who steps up with Derek Brown and Marlon Davidson on the D line, secondary looks real stout.

If Stidham is the real deal, that offense is going to be tough to beat with Pettway/Johnson running the ball.

But as stated above, this may end up meaning nothing at the end of the year.


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No matter the talent, don't forget that Gus is still the coach.


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This is the reason Ive always thought Gus is all fluff......

He was asked "you have the exact same record as Gene Chizik, why were you given a 5th year"? His answer was same ole BS, excuses and "I really like our chances of competing for a championship this year"

At some point Gus, you HAVE to stop talking it up and produce on the field.


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I think they're possibly in for a problem at QB with the continued believe Stidham is automatically the guy and publicly everyone saying Sean White can be the starter.

F'king pick a starter and be done with it. If they want to play another 2-QB rotation again then they're doomed. I think White's a tough, smart guy and don't know about Stidham.

But trying to be all suspenseful and cautious to not make someone mad and whatnot, damnation. I guess we'll find out in Week 2 at Clempsun.


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He said he feels as confident as he did before the 2013 season. Let's not forget that it took a miracle play against UGA and Bama for that season to work out the way it did. They were still poorly coached that year and blew a big lead in the big game. Until he gets better at evaluating talent and working around his strengths and weaknesses, there's nothing to worry about... We've seen this movie before


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Originally Posted By: Clem
I think they're possibly in for a problem at QB with the continued believe Stidham is automatically the guy and publicly everyone saying Sean White can be the starter.

F'king pick a starter and be done with it. If they want to play another 2-QB rotation again then they're doomed. I think White's a tough, smart guy and don't know about Stidham.

But trying to be all suspenseful and cautious to not make someone mad and whatnot, damnation. I guess we'll find out in Week 2 at Clempsun.


That's a good answer! If Stidham is as good as we are lead to believe, they will be good. The generally thought is the 2nd week determines their good/bad status. If the players have bought into this and they win, GREAT! But if they !ose then what does it do to them mentally.

Once again as Forrest said, "Auburn with Gus is like a box of chocolates. You never know what your gonna get."

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Originally Posted By: Clem
I think they're possibly in for a problem at QB with the continued believe Stidham is automatically the guy and publicly everyone saying Sean White can be the starter.

F'king pick a starter and be done with it. If they want to play another 2-QB rotation again then they're doomed. I think White's a tough, smart guy and don't know about Stidham.

But trying to be all suspenseful and cautious to not make someone mad and whatnot, damnation. I guess we'll find out in Week 2 at Clempsun.


Someone in the know says that the starter will be named early on after the second scrimmage, but they already know who it will be, like everyone else in America. If nothing else, it is to allow White to save a little face after all he has given to the team with his limited talent. My source's FIL was a former player that is allowed to many of the practices that are closed to the press and says there is little doubt who the starter is.

As for the original question, ask me again in a few months.


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Originally Posted By: jawbone
Originally Posted By: Clem
I think they're possibly in for a problem at QB with the continued believe Stidham is automatically the guy and publicly everyone saying Sean White can be the starter.

F'king pick a starter and be done with it. If they want to play another 2-QB rotation again then they're doomed. I think White's a tough, smart guy and don't know about Stidham.

But trying to be all suspenseful and cautious to not make someone mad and whatnot, damnation. I guess we'll find out in Week 2 at Clempsun.


Someone in the know says that the starter will be named early on after the second scrimmage, but they already know who it will be, like everyone else in America. If nothing else, it is to allow White to save a little face after all he has given to the team with his limited talent. My source's FIL was a former player that is allowed to many of the practices that are closed to the press and says there is little doubt who the starter is.

As for the original question, ask me again in a few months.


A lot riding on Stidham for Gus's coaching career. White has heart. Don't know what else they could do with him but hate to see him go out like this.

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Originally Posted By: centralala
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Originally Posted By: Clem
I think they're possibly in for a problem at QB with the continued believe Stidham is automatically the guy and publicly everyone saying Sean White can be the starter.

F'king pick a starter and be done with it. If they want to play another 2-QB rotation again then they're doomed. I think White's a tough, smart guy and don't know about Stidham.

But trying to be all suspenseful and cautious to not make someone mad and whatnot, damnation. I guess we'll find out in Week 2 at Clempsun.


Someone in the know says that the starter will be named early on after the second scrimmage, but they already know who it will be, like everyone else in America. If nothing else, it is to allow White to save a little face after all he has given to the team with his limited talent. My source's FIL was a former player that is allowed to many of the practices that are closed to the press and says there is little doubt who the starter is.

As for the original question, ask me again in a few months.


A lot riding on Stidham for Gus's coaching career. White has heart. Don't know what else they could do with him but hate to see him go out like this.


You're right. You can't help but pull for a guy like White, with less than all star talent but an All American heart who just hasn't been able to stay away from the injury bug. No matter what happens on the field, A guy like White will make it big in the real world one day. Butch Jones would call him the Champion of all Life Champions. wink


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Originally Posted By: Phil_Army
He said he feels as confident as he did before the 2013 season. Let's not forget that it took a miracle play against UGA and Bama for that season to work out the way it did. They were still poorly coached that year and blew a big lead in the big game. Until he gets better at evaluating talent and working around his strengths and weaknesses, there's nothing to worry about... We've seen this movie before


As an Auburn fan, Im not a Gus fan. He's a poor coach and poor at talent evaluation.

That being said, the 2013 team had plenty of Talent. As, you've already said, they lacked coaching. The new offensive coordinator will solve some of the dissension between HC, OC and the players, that the team has struggled with under Malzahn. Lashley leaving was by far the best thing that could have happened for the team.
I think Auburn could contend this year. But beat Bama? Not likely.


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I heard on finebaum the other day that someone, I don't recall who, is giving stidham the best chance of any qb in the sec to win the Heisman. Smh..will probably be another jj


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Originally Posted By: eskimo270
I heard on finebaum the other day that someone, I don't recall who, is giving stidham the best chance of any qb in the sec to win the Heisman. Smh..will probably be another jj


That was Mr. Vegas that said that, Mr. Las Vegas. 20-1 odds, the best of any SEC QB.

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Stidham actually has the best odds of anyone in the SEC at 15/1. Next was the running back from lsu

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Originally Posted By: mackdaddy
Stidham actually has the best odds of anyone in the SEC at 15/1. Next was the running back from lsu


How is that even possible? He hasn't even played 1 season. He also is prone to injury


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Originally Posted By: pcamper

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Stidham actually has the best odds of anyone in the SEC at 15/1. Next was the running back from lsu


How is that even possible? He hasn't even played 1 season. He also is prone to injury


According to bovada it's not. They realeased their heisman odds this week and he's not on the list, presumably because he hasn't been named the started yet. Quoting from
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"Bo Scarborugh and Derrius Guice both have 14-to-1 odds to take home the Heisman Trophy. Alabama quarterback Jalen Hurts has 16-to-1 odds while Georgia running back Chubb had 18-to-1 odds. Mississippi State quarterback Nick Fitzgerald has 33-to -1 odds to bring home the award. He would be the first Mississippi State player to win the award."

I'll make somebody a steak dinner bet that Stidham doesn't get invited to the Heisman ceremony..... any takers?


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AU will win 9 or 10 and keep Gus around.

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Originally Posted By: JDR4Bama
AU will win 9 or 10 and keep Gus around.


My greatest fear. I'm hoping for another 5 win wonder. Gus needs to go, but not before Jay Jacobs.


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Can Stidham run?That is when Gus's offense has been the best.If the QB isn't a serious threat(to run) then the D will not respect the run-pass option plays.The guy will put up nice passing numbers but I don't know if he makes Auburn a contender or not.

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All indications are this guy is the real deal. With that being said, Gus will find a way to screw it up.


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Originally Posted By: pcamper
All indications are this guy is the real deal. With that being said, Gus will find a way to screw it up.


None of us know but those "indications" should be a concern. Cam Newton had little "indication" he was going to be good, let alone arguably the best ever. Nick Marshall had little "indication" he would be an outstanding qb. Jeremy Johnson had all "indication" he would be great. Uh, no! This ain't HS or Baylor. But others have done it and succeeded. Time will tell.

One advantage Newton, Marshall, and Stidham had over Johnson is they had all been coached up before getting to Gus. Johnson was a product of Gus solely.

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For the Stidham Kool aid drinkers, please remember that the Big 12 defenses are softer than most SEC gymnastics teams.

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For the Stidham Kool aid drinkers, please remember that the Big 12 defenses are softer than most SEC gymnastics teams.


Yea, I said the same thing about Cam Newton going from JUCO to Auburn. I now just maintain a wait and see attitude after eating crow on Newton.

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Originally Posted By: bmc77
Can Stidham run?That is when Gus's offense has been the best.If the QB isn't a serious threat(to run) then the D will not respect the run-pass option plays.The guy will put up nice passing numbers but I don't know if he makes Auburn a contender or not.


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Stidham comes from a pass happy offensive system. Gus has lived and died by the HUNH/RPO offense. Will he give the keys to the kingdom to first year OC Lindsey and let him run with it? If he attempts to make Stidham a RPO guy and run him, things could get ugly. Lot of unknowns.


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We have way to many soon to be coaches in here. It's a wonder that with all of the open coaching slot each year that at least one of you hasn't been called up.


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My Daddy was a big Auburn fan. I've listen to a bunch of games on the radio with him when I was a kid. Back then I remember AU being a hard nose team that made sure their best players were at defensive tackle, linebackers, right guard, left tackle and fullback. The quarterback was usually a slow white kid that wasn't at all flashy but was tougher than a Waffle House steak. Nowadays it's all about the next Heisman trophy winning quarterback and all the hype they get before they even take a snap against an solid SEC opponent.


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Didn't Stidman have 70 yards on about 36 carries? He is not a runner, he will hit the ground before he takes a hit.

Re: Auburn Brethren [Re: pcamper] #2168284
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Originally Posted By: pcamper
Originally Posted By: MTeague
We have way to many soon to be coaches in here. It's a wonder that with all of the open coaching slot each year that at least one of you hasn't been called up.



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White will be the starter by week 5. Either injury or poor play will get Stidham


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Re: Auburn Brethren [Re: pcamper] #2168687
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So.... no takers on the steak bet?

Figures



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Re: Auburn Brethren [Re: bmc77] #2168695
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Originally Posted By: bmc77
Originally Posted By: pcamper
Originally Posted By: MTeague
We have way to many soon to be coaches in here. It's a wonder that with all of the open coaching slot each year that at least one of you hasn't been called up.



You can always turn over to the General Forum and read guys favorite fag songs! thumbup


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Looks like i might have struck a nerve with you two.


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Re: Auburn Brethren [Re: MTeague] #2168889
07/18/17 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted By: MTeague
Originally Posted By: bmc77
Originally Posted By: pcamper
Originally Posted By: MTeague
We have way to many soon to be coaches in here. It's a wonder that with all of the open coaching slot each year that at least one of you hasn't been called up.



You can always turn over to the General Forum and read guys favorite fag songs! thumbup



X2


Looks like i might have struck a nerve with you two.



Not at all, My point was I'd much rather read opinions on football any day than read some of the crap guys are asking on the general forum. Turn over there and look at some of the crap being posted. Some of those guys need to have their Man Card revoked!


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Re: Auburn Brethren [Re: pcamper] #2171266
07/20/17 08:25 AM
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I'm Missouri on this team until I see what they produce on the field.

1). Unless Stidham can run circles around White, I don't see the upside. White is a very accurate passer and his record as a starter was good. Most people seem to forget that most of our losses came when someone else was starting at QB. Secondly, White was put into terrible situations at QB where it'd be hard for anyone to succeed. I don't know if that was Rhett, Gus, or both. We would trot in QB for two running plays and then insert White on 3rd and long when everyone in the stadium knew a pass play was coming. Defenses teed off on him. I think White would be the starter at more than 50% of other SEC schools.

2). I lost confidence in the offensive coaches. Again, I don't know if it was Rhett or Gus. The most frustrating part to me was that 2 years in a row they didn't seem to know who their best players were. It seemed obvious to me that White was the better QB 2 years ago but he started the year on the bench. Last year Pettway was clearly the best running back but he started the year on the bench. This makes me question all of our preparation. We're not running a Pee Wee league where every kid gets to play. A coach has to identify the best players and use them. We have been really bad at doing that.


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Re: Auburn Brethren [Re: Yelp softly] #2172617
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Originally Posted By: Yelp softly
I'm Missouri on this team until I see what they produce on the field.

1). Unless Stidham can run circles around White, I don't see the upside. White is a very accurate passer and his record as a starter was good. Most people seem to forget that most of our losses came when someone else was starting at QB. Secondly, White was put into terrible situations at QB where it'd be hard for anyone to succeed. I don't know if that was Rhett, Gus, or both. We would trot in QB for two running plays and then insert White on 3rd and long when everyone in the stadium knew a pass play was coming. Defenses teed off on him. I think White would be the starter at more than 50% of other SEC schools.

2). I lost confidence in the offensive coaches. Again, I don't know if it was Rhett or Gus. The most frustrating part to me was that 2 years in a row they didn't seem to know who their best players were. It seemed obvious to me that White was the better QB 2 years ago but he started the year on the bench. Last year Pettway was clearly the best running back but he started the year on the bench. This makes me question all of our preparation. We're not running a Pee Wee league where every kid gets to play. A coach has to identify the best players and use them. We have been really bad at doing that.


I agree with most of this, but the upside to Stidham is the long ball. Sean White was a great passer up to about 25 yards but after that he was awful. Nobody respected the pass and stacked the box to prevent the run. Imagine what Auburn would look like if defenses started respecting the pass again. I do think we will compete with Bama this year in the Iron Bowl, something we haven't been able to do in a while.

Note: Watch Stidham drop bombs in the Spring Game. I know its just a spring game, but that boy looks accurate. I've got my fingers crossed that Malzahn somehow puts this one together.


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Re: Auburn Brethren [Re: pcamper] #2173611
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If White could have hit wide open receivers, several games would have not been close.

Re: Auburn Brethren [Re: Phil_Army] #2174367
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Originally Posted By: Phil_Army
He said he feels as confident as he did before the 2013 season. Let's not forget that it took a miracle play against UGA and Bama for that season to work out the way it did. They were still poorly coached that year and blew a big lead in the big game. Until he gets better at evaluating talent and working around his strengths and weaknesses, there's nothing to worry about... We've seen this movie before

Thread was labeled as "Auburn Brethren" You can't help yourself. I'd love to whip your punk ass. I'll give you directions anythime you feel froggy. Little pussy bastard

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We are not going to start this crap again. If you can't read or reply to posts in this forum without getting so worked up that you want to whip somebody's ass, then the best thing you can do is stay out of it.


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Re: Auburn Brethren [Re: Shaw] #2174441
07/23/17 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: Shaw
We are not going to start this crap again. If you can't read or reply to posts in this forum without getting so worked up that you want to whip somebody's ass, then the best thing you can do is stay out of it.



He's just feeling his oats Shaw. The butt hurt runs deep in some. We had to endure the Dubose, Fran, Price, Shula era. It was painful. I'm sure there were plenty of butthurt bammers all around. It's their turn now. If Stidham plays up to the hype, Aubarn will have a good year this season. It's good for the state when both are winning.


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Re: Auburn Brethren [Re: jmj120] #2174442
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Originally Posted By: jmj120
Originally Posted By: Phil_Army
He said he feels as confident as he did before the 2013 season. Let's not forget that it took a miracle play against UGA and Bama for that season to work out the way it did. They were still poorly coached that year and blew a big lead in the big game. Until he gets better at evaluating talent and working around his strengths and weaknesses, there's nothing to worry about... We've seen this movie before

Thread was labeled as "Auburn Brethren" You can't help yourself. I'd love to whip your punk ass. I'll give you directions anythime you feel froggy. Little pussy bastard



Whoa, Whoa, Whoa....jmj120, I am the one that started this tread titled "Auburn Brethren". Brother, I am a died in the wool Bama fan. That title was just tongue and cheek. I've had several post that Ive meant to be tongue and cheek on Gus. If you read this forum, you'll see banter from both sides. This is what makes this rival the absolute best rivalry in college football! If you were that offended by my post I apologize, I was just sending a brotherly volley to the Gus-Bus fans, never meant to cause someone to get to the point of whipping ass. Let's save the ass-whipping for the teams on the field....


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