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sec expansion teams
#2155843
07/03/17 03:25 PM
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What school would you like to see join the sec ? Should the sec expand to 15 or even 16 teams or not expand at all? Just off season boardum talk.
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Re: sec expansion teams
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07/03/17 03:39 PM
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foldemup
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Start with getting rid of Missouri.
If you want to always win, never play anyone better than you!
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Re: sec expansion teams
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#2155860
07/03/17 03:45 PM
07/03/17 03:45 PM
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Start with getting rid of Missouri. Big ol' Amen, brother!
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: sec expansion teams
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#2155890
07/03/17 04:15 PM
07/03/17 04:15 PM
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I'd like to see Texas A&M added to the west and S Carolina to the east.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: sec expansion teams
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#2155925
07/03/17 04:44 PM
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Get rid of Missouri, pick up Louisville, Clemson, Florida State
If you want to always win, never play anyone better than you!
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Re: sec expansion teams
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#2155949
07/03/17 05:00 PM
07/03/17 05:00 PM
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Remington270
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Start with getting rid of Missouri. Missouri has won the Sec East in football 2 out of the last 3 years I believe.
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Re: sec expansion teams
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#2155962
07/03/17 05:09 PM
07/03/17 05:09 PM
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Get rid of Missouri, pick up Louisville, Clemson, Florida State I have a hard time believing any school will leave the acc any time soon I don't think they will ever be invited because they don't add anything to TV markets. All three of those schools are in states with SEC schools.
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Re: sec expansion teams
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#2155967
07/03/17 05:11 PM
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Clem
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Missouri was brought in only for the SEC to better reach into the southern Midwest market including Kansas City and St. Louis because no other viable possibilities were available. Louisville knew it could compete better in the ACC, Western Kentucky isn't SEC caliber, and there wasn't anyone else to reach into that TV market.
I'd love to know all the negotiations and wheeling-dealing close calls when the conference realignments were going on the last 10 years. West Virginia, Louisville, Missouri, FSU, some of the Texas universities, Oklahoma ... it had to be crazy.
I think the next wave will be if/when Oklahoma decides to bolt. That could set off a chain reaction.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: sec expansion teams
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07/03/17 05:13 PM
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Start with getting rid of Missouri. Missouri has won the Sec East in football 2 out of the last 3 years I believe. Florida won the last 2 of 3 in the East. I'd like to see Clemson or Va Tech join the SEC. Maybe Oklahoma.
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Re: sec expansion teams
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07/03/17 05:22 PM
07/03/17 05:22 PM
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Kick out Missouri and bring in Oklahoma or maybe West Virginia. I don't think FSU, Clemson, or Louisville would help them gain any new markets. It's all about the Benjamins and not always* the quality of the team. * I said that because just having Bama, Georgia, Auburn, LSU or Florida playing in those markets is a big deal to the people in those markets. I may be an Annoying NoleHole, but let's face it, the upper level SEC teams are year in and year out THE teams to beat. And with that said, GO NOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: sec expansion teams
[Re: 257wbymag]
#2156111
07/03/17 09:51 PM
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I'd like to see Texas A&M added to the west and S Carolina to the east. Am I missing something here?
I had much rather be tried by twelve than carried to my grave by six!!!!
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Re: sec expansion teams
[Re: Booger]
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07/04/17 01:00 AM
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!shiloh!
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Kick out Missouri and bring in Oklahoma or maybe West Virginia. I don't think FSU, Clemson, or Louisville would help them gain any new markets. It's all about the Benjamins and not always* the quality of the team. * I said that because just having Bama, Georgia, Auburn, LSU or Florida playing in those markets is a big deal to the people in those markets. I may be an Annoying NoleHole, but let's face it, the upper level SEC teams are year in and year out THE teams to beat. And with that said, GO NOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I believe when the big 12 collapses ou and West Virginia will join the sec. West Virginia would have some more natural rivlerys in Tennessee, USC, vandy and Kentucky. West Virginia would be a great basketball addition. I'm sure the wv faithful would like to see that happen. Wv in the big 12 is screwed up as a football bat.
ggg
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Re: sec expansion teams
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07/04/17 02:09 AM
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Kick out Missouri and bring in Oklahoma or maybe West Virginia. I don't think FSU, Clemson, or Louisville would help them gain any new markets. It's all about the Benjamins and not always* the quality of the team. * I said that because just having Bama, Georgia, Auburn, LSU or Florida playing in those markets is a big deal to the people in those markets. I may be an Annoying NoleHole, but let's face it, the upper level SEC teams are year in and year out THE teams to beat. And with that said, GO NOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I believe when the big 12 collapses ou and West Virginia will join the sec. West Virginia would have some more natural rivlerys in Tennessee, USC, vandy and Kentucky. West Virginia would be a great basketball addition. I'm sure the wv faithful would like to see that happen. Wv in the big 12 is screwed up as a football bat. OU and Okie State will be a package deal. I don't think you'll get one without the other.
"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"
Have you tried Google?
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07/04/17 04:55 AM
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Oklahoma in the West, Miami in the East
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Re: sec expansion teams
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#2156269
07/04/17 05:24 AM
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Clem
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The SEC isn't going to kick out Missouri just because they suck. Vandy would have been gone a long time ago if that were the only reason. Missouri is in until it decides to leave because they're enjoying the prestige and money of the SEC and the SEC likes the TV market.
Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Houston, West Virginia, possibly Miami, FSU if it ever decides the ACC isn't fun anymore, possibly Virginia and/or Virginia Tech are likely candidates. The first three would/could be good additions to the West, along with the geographical realignment that would put teams in their proper regions (Missouri in the West, Auburn in the East, etc.)
I still think a "Super Conference" of the top 40-60 teams is more likely, although with ESPN's financial problems probably creating a major shift in the next round of TV rights bidding could also be a big factor.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: sec expansion teams
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#2156674
07/04/17 04:14 PM
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jawbone
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Teams are contractually committed to the Big 12 for only a few more years. Until then, nothing happens, but when their contract is up, that league will fold quicker than a blink. At that time the SEC will have their pick. I think they would like the OK schools.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: sec expansion teams
[Re: BigEd]
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07/04/17 05:20 PM
07/04/17 05:20 PM
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Remington270
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Start with getting rid of Missouri. Missouri has won the Sec East in football 2 out of the last 3 years I believe. Florida won the last 2 of 3 in the East. I'd like to see Clemson or Va Tech join the SEC. Maybe Oklahoma. Missouri won 2 of the last 4. My point was they may suck, but they've been the best in the East.
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07/05/17 02:42 AM
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!shiloh!
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The only team I have seen that was making a request for a move was auburn wanting to move to the east. Let them go. I would think auburns main demographic is Alabama, Georgia and Florida. It just makes more since for au in the East
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07/05/17 04:53 AM
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jbc
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Houston and bring back Tulane. if bringing back Tulane, why not bring back Georgia Tech. Tulane (3) and Georgia Tech (5) do have more SEC Championships than Kentucky, Mississippi State, Arkansas, South Carolina, Missouri, & Vanderbilt
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07/05/17 07:46 AM
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leroycnbucks
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Houston and bring back Tulane. if bringing back Tulane, why not bring back Georgia Tech. Tulane (3) and Georgia Tech (5) do have more SEC Championships than Kentucky, Mississippi State, Arkansas, South Carolina, Missouri, & Vanderbilt I didn't know that on the SEC championships. I went with Houston due to them not being in a major conference plus being located in the forth largest city in the country. Tulane based on the same thing with them being in NO plus a former SEC member. Now I'm sure the powers to be at LSU would oppose it. I didn't go with Tech even though I thought about it but with them being in the ATL I figured the ACC would fight like hell to keep them in that conference.
Proud Army and ALNG veteran God Bless America!
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07/05/17 04:34 PM
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jmudler
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Oh HELL NO........! We would get TV time though
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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07/05/17 04:58 PM
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When the Big 12 folds, and that is on the way, the SEC will have its choice of teams and they will go after the biggest TV markets.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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07/06/17 05:17 AM
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Oh HELL NO........! We would get TV time though I hate them but they have a large following and would add to the revenue stream.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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07/06/17 10:19 AM
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When the Big 12 folds, and that is on the way, the SEC will have its choice of teams and they will go after the biggest TV markets.
Definitely. If the SEC could get Oklahoma, OSU, West Virginia, Texas, Kansas, and convince Louisville, Miami, Clempson and FSU to leave the ACC, they could reconfigure not only the league divisions but possibly the entire football landscape with essentially half the country's TV coverage from West Virginia to the Desert Southwest and much of the Midwest. Despite ESPN overpaying for rights fees and feeling it now, the potential TV deals for each division, the Division Championship Games and the SEC C'Ship Game -- imagine that, an SEC Playoff for the SEC C'ship AND the probable lock for the overall playoffs -- would be astronomical. Or, the SEC somehow adds enough teams to go to four 4- or 5-team divisions with a North, South, East and West setup. Then it has division champions who are in a playoff for the SEC C'ship and the SEC Network keeps those Division Championship games for itself but sells the SEC title game. Huge money possibilities. That would be wild, a 20-team "Southeastern" Conference with four 5-team divisions that play each other, three non-conference games and three other conference opponents on a rotation. Probably won't get that large, though.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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[Re: Clem]
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07/06/17 11:59 AM
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BigEd
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When the Big 12 folds, and that is on the way, the SEC will have its choice of teams and they will go after the biggest TV markets.
Definitely. If the SEC could get Oklahoma, OSU, West Virginia, Texas, Kansas, and convince Louisville, Miami, Clempson and FSU to leave the ACC, they could reconfigure not only the league divisions but possibly the entire football landscape with essentially half the country's TV coverage from West Virginia to the Desert Southwest and much of the Midwest. Despite ESPN overpaying for rights fees and feeling it now, the potential TV deals for each division, the Division Championship Games and the SEC C'Ship Game -- imagine that, an SEC Playoff for the SEC C'ship AND the probable lock for the overall playoffs -- would be astronomical. Or, the SEC somehow adds enough teams to go to four 4- or 5-team divisions with a North, South, East and West setup. Then it has division champions who are in a playoff for the SEC C'ship and the SEC Network keeps those Division Championship games for itself but sells the SEC title game. Huge money possibilities. That would be wild, a 20-team "Southeastern" Conference with four 5-team divisions that play each other, three non-conference games and three other conference opponents on a rotation. Probably won't get that large, though. Clem I think that would basically be an NFL type setup. That would put the SEC champ against the EEC (everybody else conference) champ in the CF Super Bowl.
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