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Installing a scope the right way. #2153473
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I'm wanting a scope mounted correctly. I want the rings lapped, crosshairs leveled, and properly torqued screws.

Is there a reputable service provider to do this or would I be best off ordering the equipment myself?

Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: Rebelman] #2153492
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You fool with rifles too much to not have the stuff to do it right. Buy the stuff. Not very expensive and you know for certain it is done right.

I will tell you that I dont use any kind of crosshair leveling kit though. I just use a bipod and a plumb bob hung from the ceiling myself.

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Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: Rebelman] #2153510
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What JUG said. I've had a few scopes mounted for me in the past, but i always ended up re-mounting them myself. Both were moved because of scope positioning, some folks like to push the scope as far back as possible and I hate that chit grin


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Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: James] #2153544
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I think I have lapped less than 5 sets of rings in my whole life...

How much runout do you think you create while lapping your rings with your unsupported elbow by hand?

Just buy better stuff. Never had a problem with my scope in quality rings. No lapping needed.


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Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: Rebelman] #2153577
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All I use is a Torx wrench and screw driver and I know it's right. Never any trouble and no ring marks, and also use an alignment bar.


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Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: Rebelman] #2153686
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The key to lapping rings is don't over do it. I've helped several. Just check the alignment before and do as little as possible. If they are too bad out of alignment to start you might have to use a one piece mount or have some work done.

I say buy what you need and do it yourself. You can get the kit for about $100.

Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: Rebelman] #2153722
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Buy DNZ and no lapping necessary.


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Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: 257wbymag] #2153782
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Buy DNZ and no lapping necessary.


BINGO! I've got DNZ Game Reapers on almost all of my scoped guns. Can't beat 'em.


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Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: Claims Rep.] #2153899
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Originally Posted By: Claims Rep.
Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Buy DNZ and no lapping necessary.


BINGO! I've got DNZ Game Reapers on almost all of my scoped guns. Can't beat 'em.


I was gonna say buy the right rings and you don't have to lap

Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: Rebelman] #2153913
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I've installed every scope on every weapon that my son and I own and have done so since the 70s. I do have the magnetic leveling bubble tubes now and like them. Cheap and work very well.


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Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: Rebelman] #2153933
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Buy the stuff and do it yourself. Add me to the group that doesn't fool with lapping rings.

Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: burbank] #2153994
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I bought all this stuff at different times. If you shop around you can find a good deal on a combo. I want my reticles leveled to the receiver. Most of the time you take it somewhere they charge you to eyeball it. I enjoy mounting my own scopes. You mount a few new ones or adjust a few old ones and you've paid for it. Plus, you'll always have the tools.

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Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: bambam32] #2153997
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Originally Posted By: bambam32
I bought all this stuff at different times. If you shop around you can find a good deal on a combo. I want my reticles leveled to the receiver. Most of the time you take it somewhere they charge you to eyeball it. I enjoy mounting my own scopes. You mount a few new ones or adjust a few old ones and you've paid for it. Plus, you'll always have the tools.

Wheeler

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I'll add that I have only lapped one set of rings and it made quite a mess. It's usually not necessary. If I find that I've got some rings out of alignment I'll probably return them next time.

Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: Claims Rep.] #2154008
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Originally Posted By: Claims Rep.
Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Buy DNZ and no lapping necessary.


BINGO! I've got DNZ Game Reapers on almost all of my scoped guns. Can't beat 'em.
Even they have lemons. I purchased one for my Rem700 police, and it's off quite a bit....


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Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: James] #2154026
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Originally Posted By: James
Originally Posted By: Claims Rep.
Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Buy DNZ and no lapping necessary.


BINGO! I've got DNZ Game Reapers on almost all of my scoped guns. Can't beat 'em.
Even they have lemons. I purchased one for my Rem700 police, and it's off quite a bit....


Well in this case, you return it, you don't fix it.

Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: Rebelman] #2154047
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I like Burris Signature series rings with the plastic inserts that protect the scope tube and can be used to make gross corrections in elevation and windage with the proper inserts. Lapping is not needed because you can never 'bind' the tube.....

http://www.burrisoptics.com/signature-rings




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Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: Rebelman] #2154056
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Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: Rebelman] #2154183
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None of the crosshairs on my hunting rifles are what you would call level, but theyre straight to me. I do all my own. I don't think anybody could do them correctly for you unless you were in the room helping with the adjustment. Everybody shoulders a rifle a little different. I'd go dnz and do it yourself.


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Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: bambam32] #2154213
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Originally Posted By: bambam32
Originally Posted By: bambam32
I bought all this stuff at different times. If you shop around you can find a good deal on a combo. I want my reticles leveled to the receiver. Most of the time you take it somewhere they charge you to eyeball it. I enjoy mounting my own scopes. You mount a few new ones or adjust a few old ones and you've paid for it. Plus, you'll always have the tools.

Wheeler

Wheeler 2


I'll add that I have only lapped one set of rings and it made quite a mess. It's usually not necessary. If I find that I've got some rings out of alignment I'll probably return them next time.


Sounds like you used too much lube. LOL

Ring marks are caused by rings out of alignment. Also,a lot of scopes that don't adjust properly are because the tube is torqued by out of alignment rings. Sometimes both problems are caused because of farmer tight rings.Canted reticles won't track true at long range. Lots of problems can be avoided by proper scope mounting,and I've never seen a gun store lackey mount a scope properly.

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Re: Installing a scope the right way. [Re: Rebelman] #2154216
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I'm ordering the wheeler set. Thanks

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