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Argentina
#2138241
06/14/17 03:22 PM
06/14/17 03:22 PM
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mauvilla
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I've been before and am ready to go again and shoot doves in Argentina. Wanted to see if anyone on here had experience with a outfitter and positives or negatives . Any recommendations are appreciated
Last edited by mauvilla; 06/15/17 03:06 AM.
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Re: Argentina
[Re: mauvilla]
#2138456
06/15/17 01:40 AM
06/15/17 01:40 AM
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TickaTicka
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Every guy I've talked to who has gone has said to mix in hunting something other than doves too. Perdiz (some sort of upland bird), duck hunting are good mixes. This is from guys who are pretty hard core bird hunters too. I guess shooting cases of shells at doves every day gets old?
Can you guys speak to this?
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Re: Argentina
[Re: mauvilla]
#2138616
06/15/17 05:47 AM
06/15/17 05:47 AM
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I took a group to my place in Cordoba in March 2014. First class all the way.
I'm taking another group in September of this year.
Most all lodges are priced within a few hundred dollars of each other. Once you add up what they are giving you the price usually comes out the same.
When are you wanting to go? How many in your group?
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Re: Argentina
[Re: mauvilla]
#2138962
06/15/17 01:07 PM
06/15/17 01:07 PM
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cmontgomery
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Parana Sunrise looks like a good spot. The mixed bag package looks real appealing. Dove, ducks, and golden dorado.
Last edited by cmontgomery; 06/16/17 02:13 PM.
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Re: Argentina
[Re: doekiller]
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06/16/17 04:51 AM
06/16/17 04:51 AM
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Remington270
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Save your shell money. Spent close to $3,400 on shells down there. That was shooting over 70% for the week. At $14 a box it gets expensive. The last day we were there I killed 1018 birds. You shot 70% of the birds you aimed at? I'm sure you shoot well, but those must've been chip shots to be that good of a batting average.
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Re: Argentina
[Re: mauvilla]
#2139641
06/16/17 06:29 AM
06/16/17 06:29 AM
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Once you realize that you don't have to shoot at marginal shots, your average will improve. The first hunt most folks have the "Alabama Dove Hunt" mentality. They shoot at most any bird that is somewhat in range. Once you realize that you don't have to shoot at all of them your average goes up.
My first shoot down there I shot around 50%. The next 3 days I shot closer to 80%. My 3 day average was 72% as was most guys on that trip.
The last full day there I shot 1204 birds. We hunted about 3 hours in the morning and 3 hours in the afternoon. That night at dinner our host was going over the number of shells each shooter shot and the number of birds each shooter killed. I was very happy with my 1204 bird day until he said that his lodge best was 5294 birds for one shooter in one day. Then he tells us that the province record was 9,236 birds in one day for one shooter.
You really can't imagine what it's like until you see it yourself.
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Re: Argentina
[Re: mauvilla]
#2139645
06/16/17 06:39 AM
06/16/17 06:39 AM
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I've always wanted to go down and shoot birds like that but have to imagine that hunting here would never be the same. Did either of you guys find that the luster for an Alabama dove hunt was no longer there once your returned?
Ya'll are just overthinking it now
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Re: Argentina
[Re: mauvilla]
#2139727
06/16/17 08:28 AM
06/16/17 08:28 AM
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I still enjoy going to a bird shoot here but it's not the same as a trip down there.
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Re: Argentina
[Re: mauvilla]
#2139750
06/16/17 08:46 AM
06/16/17 08:46 AM
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North40R
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I would love to go one day just for the experience but as much as I love to shoot I honestly don't know if I would enjoy shooting 1000 to 1500 rounds a day.
Adopt the pace of nature, her secret is patience. Emerson
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Re: Argentina
[Re: mauvilla]
#2139770
06/16/17 09:13 AM
06/16/17 09:13 AM
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I shot 4000 shells in 3 full days of hunting. The only reason I didn't shoot 8000 shells is because I didn't want to have to pay for them.
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Re: Argentina
[Re: mauvilla]
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06/16/17 09:45 AM
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mauvilla
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I had a blast it's a long trip but worth it. No doubt he shucks 70% down there it's nothing like Alabama shooting. Yes I've some what lost the lust for shoot doves here more to the reason the last 10 I've been on suck so bad. Yes they are a lot of chip shots and it's easy to kill 3-5 a shot they are grouped so tight. My first am i killed just shy of 500 in about 3-3.5 hrs my best day ( I just looked it up ) 1,486 birds and dad killed 1,319 like said above you don't shoot day light till dark but can. I never got tired of it I bought a limb saver shoulder pad Not a bruise on me . I was timid on shooting wide open was afraid I would shoot up the pre bought shells and have regretted it since inlegt
Last edited by mauvilla; 06/16/17 09:50 AM.
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Re: Argentina
[Re: BatesConst]
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06/19/17 01:38 PM
06/19/17 01:38 PM
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So what does an average trip cost door to door? And is that normally a 3 day, 5 day or what's the norm? http://www.argentinabirdhunts.com/Doves/newdove.htm$3k+flights+license/fees+additional shells I'm guessing $6k if you only shoot your allotment for a 3 day trip.
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Re: Argentina
[Re: mauvilla]
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06/19/17 07:06 PM
06/19/17 07:06 PM
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I don't think I want to shoot 2,000 shots in a day.
“Killing tomorrow’s trophies today.”
On the distance I like to walk to my stands: “The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
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Re: Argentina
[Re: mauvilla]
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06/20/17 06:03 AM
06/20/17 06:03 AM
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Posts: 12,230 Oxford, AL. USA
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The deal I get for my clients is as follows:
3-day Hunt Meals, Lodging, Airport Pick-up, Booze, etc. 3000 Shells Hunting License Gun Rental $2800
Not Included: Tips to Bird Boys ($40 per day) Tips to Staff ($40 per Day) Extra Shells ($12.50 per box)
Air Fare is $1800ish Reciprocity agreement $160 (extortion from the Argentina Government)
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Re: Argentina
[Re: BatesConst]
#2151289
06/28/17 09:26 AM
06/28/17 09:26 AM
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doekiller
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So what does an average trip cost door to door? And is that normally a 3 day, 5 day or what's the norm? I think all total I was out about $7,000 for the trip. We flew out on Saturday, got there on Sunday. Hunted 5 days (I slept in 2 mornings. So, I had 8 times in the field) and flew home Saturday and got back Sunday. There were 5 of us that went. The amount spent ranged from a low of about $5,000 for my dad to almost $9,000 for one of the guys that went with us. He shot a loooooooot of shells and kept his bird boy busy.
Last edited by doekiller; 06/28/17 09:27 AM.
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Re: Argentina
[Re: walt4dun]
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06/29/17 02:35 AM
06/29/17 02:35 AM
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doekiller
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whats it cost for non-shooters? ie Wife I don't think the place we went was something like $200 a day. But, there isn't much to do if you are not hunting.
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Re: Argentina
[Re: mauvilla]
#2154032
07/01/17 01:46 AM
07/01/17 01:46 AM
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tfd1224
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I'd love to go if you could bring the doves back but piss on killing thousands of birds just for the sake of shooting them, and not getting to fill your freezer with doves. Meat and enjoyment are the 2 primary reasons I hunt. No meat seems like a waste of money.
Yeah cmon. Daniel White
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Re: Argentina
[Re: tfd1224]
#2155494
07/03/17 08:15 AM
07/03/17 08:15 AM
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soalaturkeys
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I'd love to go if you could bring the doves back but piss on killing thousands of birds just for the sake of shooting them, and not getting to fill your freezer with doves. Meat and enjoyment are the 2 primary reasons I hunt. No meat seems like a waste of money. Agree...do you get to have some cooked while you are there? And does the (considerable amount of) meat actually get eaten by someone?
"For the Truth the Turkey is in Comparison a much more respectable Bird, and withal a true original Native of America" ~Benjamin Franklin
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Re: Argentina
[Re: mauvilla]
#2155565
07/03/17 10:25 AM
07/03/17 10:25 AM
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soalaturkeys
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I'll tell y'all, I would love to have an extra six or eight grand to be able to do this...and more power to those that do, it must be an awesome trip. I have friends who did the Mexico and Columbia dove shoots years ago until the dang drug thugs screwed that up for everyone!!
"For the Truth the Turkey is in Comparison a much more respectable Bird, and withal a true original Native of America" ~Benjamin Franklin
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Re: Argentina
[Re: mauvilla]
#2156978
07/05/17 04:43 AM
07/05/17 04:43 AM
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My last group killed 18,000 or so and we picked up maybe 100 and had them for an appetizer one day for lunch.
I asked the outfitter about leaving them laying and he said no one down there picks them up. I then asked why didn't they give them to poor folks and he said, "Even the poor folks gets tired of eating dove three times a day."
You can't think about them in the terms of Alabama dove. Think of them as land-fill rats. They are a nuisance and a huge problem for them down there. They have a clutch 3 times per year and they have 4-6 chicks each time. They also have very few predators.
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Re: Argentina
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07/06/17 06:51 PM
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tfd1224
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My last group killed 18,000 or so and we picked up maybe 100 and had them for an appetizer one day for lunch.
I asked the outfitter about leaving them laying and he said no one down there picks them up. I then asked why didn't they give them to poor folks and he said, "Even the poor folks gets tired of eating dove three times a day."
You can't think about them in the terms of Alabama dove. Think of them as land-fill rats. They are a nuisance and a huge problem for them down there. They have a clutch 3 times per year and they have 4-6 chicks each time. They also have very few predators. I'm not paying 7 to 8 grand to fix their problems and not fill my freezer. I could probably go on a moose hunt for that kind of cash and bring home all the meat.
Yeah cmon. Daniel White
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Re: Argentina
[Re: tfd1224]
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07/09/17 04:16 PM
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My last group killed 18,000 or so and we picked up maybe 100 and had them for an appetizer one day for lunch.
I asked the outfitter about leaving them laying and he said no one down there picks them up. I then asked why didn't they give them to poor folks and he said, "Even the poor folks gets tired of eating dove three times a day."
You can't think about them in the terms of Alabama dove. Think of them as land-fill rats. They are a nuisance and a huge problem for them down there. They have a clutch 3 times per year and they have 4-6 chicks each time. They also have very few predators. I'm not paying 7 to 8 grand to fix their problems and not fill my freezer. I could probably go on a moose hunt for that kind of cash and bring home all the meat. If you want a moose hunt for $8000 that includes 2 black bears and a Wolf incan make that happen this fall.
IKNOWMYPHUCKINGCODEDAMMITYOUDICKHEAD!!!
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Re: Argentina
[Re: Fishduck]
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07/09/17 04:17 PM
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The hunter who searches for food will miss the whole point of my hunts. For 7-8K a lot of steaks and poultry can be purchased along with another freezer to hold the bounty. It is impossible to justify the expense of most hunts if meat is the end goal.
The way my heart leaps as a bird puffs into feathers is impossible to put into words. Even if I could explain it, the pragmatist would fail to understand. Argentina is one place in the world where you can literally step back in time. The dove shoots must be remarkably similar to the passenger pigeon shoots of old. Same with the duck hunts. Harvests counted in barrels are simply not possible in a country with limited game and many hunters. Most of us will never experience this kind of shooting. Some due to monetary constraints, some for pragmatic reasons and some because we are scared we would become so spoiled that local shoots would be pointless.
Some of the operations do pick up the birds and I have seen pics that prove it. Standing in front of a small mountain of dead birds. Maybe one day I will be in the pics but for now will continue shooting 15 at a time, at home, when I am lucky. Very well written.
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Re: Argentina
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07/09/17 04:52 PM
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My last group killed 18,000 or so and we picked up maybe 100 and had them for an appetizer one day for lunch.
I asked the outfitter about leaving them laying and he said no one down there picks them up. I then asked why didn't they give them to poor folks and he said, "Even the poor folks gets tired of eating dove three times a day."
You can't think about them in the terms of Alabama dove. Think of them as land-fill rats. They are a nuisance and a huge problem for them down there. They have a clutch 3 times per year and they have 4-6 chicks each time. They also have very few predators. I'm not paying 7 to 8 grand to fix their problems and not fill my freezer. I could probably go on a moose hunt for that kind of cash and bring home all the meat. If you want a moose hunt for $8000 that includes 2 black bears and a Wolf incan make that happen this fall. Im going to start saving
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