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Re: Argentina [Re: mauvilla] #2142404
06/19/17 11:15 AM
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So what does an average trip cost door to door? And is that normally a 3 day, 5 day or what's the norm?

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Originally Posted By: BatesConst
So what does an average trip cost door to door? And is that normally a 3 day, 5 day or what's the norm?


http://www.argentinabirdhunts.com/Doves/newdove.htm

$3k+flights+license/fees+additional shells

I'm guessing $6k if you only shoot your allotment for a 3 day trip.

Re: Argentina [Re: mauvilla] #2142973
06/19/17 07:06 PM
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I don't think I want to shoot 2,000 shots in a day.


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Re: Argentina [Re: mauvilla] #2143305
06/20/17 06:03 AM
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The deal I get for my clients is as follows:

3-day Hunt
Meals, Lodging, Airport Pick-up, Booze, etc.
3000 Shells
Hunting License
Gun Rental
$2800

Not Included:
Tips to Bird Boys ($40 per day)
Tips to Staff ($40 per Day)
Extra Shells ($12.50 per box)

Air Fare is $1800ish
Reciprocity agreement $160 (extortion from the Argentina Government)


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Re: Argentina [Re: BatesConst] #2151289
06/28/17 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted By: BatesConst
So what does an average trip cost door to door? And is that normally a 3 day, 5 day or what's the norm?


I think all total I was out about $7,000 for the trip. We flew out on Saturday, got there on Sunday. Hunted 5 days (I slept in 2 mornings. So, I had 8 times in the field) and flew home Saturday and got back Sunday.

There were 5 of us that went. The amount spent ranged from a low of about $5,000 for my dad to almost $9,000 for one of the guys that went with us. He shot a loooooooot of shells and kept his bird boy busy.

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Re: Argentina [Re: mauvilla] #2151328
06/28/17 10:16 AM
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Argentina dove shoot is on my bucket list for sure.

Re: Argentina [Re: mauvilla] #2151472
06/28/17 01:02 PM
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whats it cost for non-shooters?
ie Wife

Re: Argentina [Re: walt4dun] #2152059
06/29/17 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: walt4dun
whats it cost for non-shooters?
ie Wife


I don't think the place we went was something like $200 a day. But, there isn't much to do if you are not hunting.

Re: Argentina [Re: mauvilla] #2154032
07/01/17 01:46 AM
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I'd love to go if you could bring the doves back but piss on killing thousands of birds just for the sake of shooting them, and not getting to fill your freezer with doves. Meat and enjoyment are the 2 primary reasons I hunt. No meat seems like a waste of money.


Yeah cmon. Daniel White
Re: Argentina [Re: mauvilla] #2155371
07/03/17 05:35 AM
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it's kind of like tarpon fishing..... grin grin


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: Argentina [Re: tfd1224] #2155494
07/03/17 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: tfd1224
I'd love to go if you could bring the doves back but piss on killing thousands of birds just for the sake of shooting them, and not getting to fill your freezer with doves. Meat and enjoyment are the 2 primary reasons I hunt. No meat seems like a waste of money.
Agree...do you get to have some cooked while you are there? And does the (considerable amount of) meat actually get eaten by someone?


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Re: Argentina [Re: mauvilla] #2155547
07/03/17 09:54 AM
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They cooked some while we were there very good

Re: Argentina [Re: mauvilla] #2155565
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I'll tell y'all, I would love to have an extra six or eight grand to be able to do this...and more power to those that do, it must be an awesome trip. I have friends who did the Mexico and Columbia dove shoots years ago until the dang drug thugs screwed that up for everyone!!


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Re: Argentina [Re: BhamFred] #2155603
07/03/17 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
it's kind of like tarpon fishing..... grin grin

Tarpon fishing doesn't require airfare to Argentina and 1500 dollars a day either


Yeah cmon. Daniel White
Re: Argentina [Re: mauvilla] #2156978
07/05/17 04:43 AM
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My last group killed 18,000 or so and we picked up maybe 100 and had them for an appetizer one day for lunch.

I asked the outfitter about leaving them laying and he said no one down there picks them up. I then asked why didn't they give them to poor folks and he said, "Even the poor folks gets tired of eating dove three times a day."

You can't think about them in the terms of Alabama dove. Think of them as land-fill rats. They are a nuisance and a huge problem for them down there. They have a clutch 3 times per year and they have 4-6 chicks each time. They also have very few predators.


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Re: Argentina [Re: Big Game Hunter] #2158502
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Originally Posted By: Big Game Hunter
My last group killed 18,000 or so and we picked up maybe 100 and had them for an appetizer one day for lunch.

I asked the outfitter about leaving them laying and he said no one down there picks them up. I then asked why didn't they give them to poor folks and he said, "Even the poor folks gets tired of eating dove three times a day."

You can't think about them in the terms of Alabama dove. Think of them as land-fill rats. They are a nuisance and a huge problem for them down there. They have a clutch 3 times per year and they have 4-6 chicks each time. They also have very few predators.

I'm not paying 7 to 8 grand to fix their problems and not fill my freezer. I could probably go on a moose hunt for that kind of cash and bring home all the meat.


Yeah cmon. Daniel White
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The hunter who searches for food will miss the whole point of my hunts. For 7-8K a lot of steaks and poultry can be purchased along with another freezer to hold the bounty. It is impossible to justify the expense of most hunts if meat is the end goal.

The way my heart leaps as a bird puffs into feathers is impossible to put into words. Even if I could explain it, the pragmatist would fail to understand. Argentina is one place in the world where you can literally step back in time. The dove shoots must be remarkably similar to the passenger pigeon shoots of old. Same with the duck hunts. Harvests counted in barrels are simply not possible in a country with limited game and many hunters. Most of us will never experience this kind of shooting. Some due to monetary constraints, some for pragmatic reasons and some because we are scared we would become so spoiled that local shoots would be pointless.

Some of the operations do pick up the birds and I have seen pics that prove it. Standing in front of a small mountain of dead birds. Maybe one day I will be in the pics but for now will continue shooting 15 at a time, at home, when I am lucky.

Re: Argentina [Re: mauvilla] #2158855
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We ate them twice while we were down there as appetizers. Some of the lodges pick them up and give them to the hog farmers. But, there are only so many birds you can pick up. Some of the bird boys or field hands took home a few here and there. My bird boy said he couldn't eat another dove if you paid him and his wife would leave if he took any more home.

They don'y just lay there to rot. Most of them are eaten by the birds of prey (hawks, eagles and such) while you are still hunting. They will land within a few dozen yards of you while you are shooting and eat them. They have no fear of the gun going off.

Re: Argentina [Re: tfd1224] #2160729
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Originally Posted By: tfd1224
Originally Posted By: Big Game Hunter
My last group killed 18,000 or so and we picked up maybe 100 and had them for an appetizer one day for lunch.

I asked the outfitter about leaving them laying and he said no one down there picks them up. I then asked why didn't they give them to poor folks and he said, "Even the poor folks gets tired of eating dove three times a day."

You can't think about them in the terms of Alabama dove. Think of them as land-fill rats. They are a nuisance and a huge problem for them down there. They have a clutch 3 times per year and they have 4-6 chicks each time. They also have very few predators.

I'm not paying 7 to 8 grand to fix their problems and not fill my freezer. I could probably go on a moose hunt for that kind of cash and bring home all the meat.


If you want a moose hunt for $8000 that includes 2 black bears and a
Wolf incan make that happen this fall.


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Re: Argentina [Re: Fishduck] #2160733
07/09/17 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: Fishduck
The hunter who searches for food will miss the whole point of my hunts. For 7-8K a lot of steaks and poultry can be purchased along with another freezer to hold the bounty. It is impossible to justify the expense of most hunts if meat is the end goal.

The way my heart leaps as a bird puffs into feathers is impossible to put into words. Even if I could explain it, the pragmatist would fail to understand. Argentina is one place in the world where you can literally step back in time. The dove shoots must be remarkably similar to the passenger pigeon shoots of old. Same with the duck hunts. Harvests counted in barrels are simply not possible in a country with limited game and many hunters. Most of us will never experience this kind of shooting. Some due to monetary constraints, some for pragmatic reasons and some because we are scared we would become so spoiled that local shoots would be pointless.

Some of the operations do pick up the birds and I have seen pics that prove it. Standing in front of a small mountain of dead birds. Maybe one day I will be in the pics but for now will continue shooting 15 at a time, at home, when I am lucky.


Very well written.


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