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Re: Ancient human like jawbone found in Balkans [Re: jbc] #2122065
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Originally Posted By: jbc
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So if evolution happened why did it stop? Has everything on earth completed it's evolution cycle? If so why? And who decided that? Is evolution just a freak of nature? Like a snake growing legs to become a lizard?


Wasn't there just a thread about high school girls being more mature than 20 years ago?

How big were college football left tackles 50 years ago?


That's a stretch of micro evolution and technically not considered micro evolution as its due to nutrition and environment, not genetics.

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Originally Posted By: SouthBamaSlayer

Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: leroycnbucks
So if evolution happened why did it stop? Has everything on earth completed it's evolution cycle? If so why? And who decided that? Is evolution just a freak of nature? Like a snake growing legs to become a lizard?


Wasn't there just a thread about high school girls being more mature than 20 years ago?

How big were college football left tackles 50 years ago?


That's a stretch of micro evolution and technically not considered micro evolution as its due to nutrition and environment, not genetics.



I was just going devils advocate. I don't care either way other than I think God created the earth a whole lot longer than a few thousand years ago

Re: Ancient human like jawbone found in Balkans [Re: Beer Belly] #2122291
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I think I've seen some in Bham that's going the other way.

Re: Ancient human like jawbone found in Balkans [Re: leroycnbucks] #2122360
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Originally Posted By: leroycnbucks
So if evolution happened why did it stop? Has everything on earth completed it's evolution cycle? If so why? And who decided that? Is evolution just a freak of nature? Like a snake growing legs to become a lizard?


No, it has not stopped. But you are talking about a process that is incredibly slow. Evolution happens through random mutations at birth. A snake isn't going to just be slithering along one day and suddenly start to grow a leg as you mentioned. Most random mutations are harmful to the particular creature that is born with it and do not enhance it's ability to survive. Every once in a very rare while a creature is born with a random mutation that actually helps it survive better than the others of it's speices. Animals that survive better live longer to spread their genes to offspring that will also have the mutation or at least the potential for it. But there may be hundreds of thousands of life cycles in a certain species before such a beneficial mutation occurs if ever. And even then it may take a very long time for the decendents of that original genetic mutation to increase in numbers until they become the new normal for that species. We humans live about 80 years or so. That being the case it's pretty hard for us to observe a process as slow as evolution.

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Re: Ancient human like jawbone found in Balkans [Re: Beer Belly] #2122361
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Originally Posted By: Beer Belly
There is no way that animals can evolve into completely different looking........ Well maybe dogs but nothing else.



Different breeds of dogs are created over a relatively short period of time.


Exactly. And if artificial selection can generate the changes we see in animals in a relatively short period of time just imagine what natural selection can do over millions of years.


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Re: Ancient human like jawbone found in Balkans [Re: Todd1700] #2122364
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Good reading on Macroevolution

The problem with discussing topics like this is that the requested answers and evidence can require deeper reading than most people want to engage in. But the above link lays it out pretty well if you have the time and desire to read it.


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Re: Ancient human like jawbone found in Balkans [Re: BirminghamBuck] #2122367
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hahahaha. That is reverse evolution men wearing rompers

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Originally Posted By: Half_Circle_V
hahahaha. That is reverse evolution men wearing rompers


LOL! Yes it is.


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Re: Ancient human like jawbone found in Balkans [Re: Todd1700] #2122818
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Originally Posted By: Todd1700
Good reading on Macroevolution

The problem with discussing topics like this is that the requested answers and evidence can require deeper reading than most people want to engage in. But the above link lays it out pretty well if you have the time and desire to read it.


I agree, that is probably one of the best laid out sources for macroevolution out there to read. If one can ignore the wild guesses, gross errors in reasoning, false statemetns and manipulation, it actually makes sense. grin

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Re: Ancient human like jawbone found in Balkans [Re: straycat] #2122838
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Originally Posted By: straycat
Originally Posted By: Todd1700
Good reading on Macroevolution

The problem with discussing topics like this is that the requested answers and evidence can require deeper reading than most people want to engage in. But the above link lays it out pretty well if you have the time and desire to read it.


I agree, that is probably one of the best laid out sources for macroevolution out there to read. If one can ignore the wild guesses, gross errors in reasoning, false statemetns and manipulation, it actually makes sense. grin


Again, total devils advocate just because I enjoy the discussion;

But what is the defense of the other side, that they have to ignore? Besides faith, what The Bible says and you don't feel like you came from a monkey?

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Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: straycat
Originally Posted By: Todd1700
Good reading on Macroevolution

The problem with discussing topics like this is that the requested answers and evidence can require deeper reading than most people want to engage in. But the above link lays it out pretty well if you have the time and desire to read it.


I agree, that is probably one of the best laid out sources for macroevolution out there to read. If one can ignore the wild guesses, gross errors in reasoning, false statemetns and manipulation, it actually makes sense. grin


Again, total devils advocate just because I enjoy the discussion;

But what is the defense of the other side, that they have to ignore? Besides faith, what The Bible says and you don't feel like you came from a monkey?



The ladle is big with this one


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There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
Re: Ancient human like jawbone found in Balkans [Re: jbc] #2122851
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Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: straycat
Originally Posted By: Todd1700
Good reading on Macroevolution

The problem with discussing topics like this is that the requested answers and evidence can require deeper reading than most people want to engage in. But the above link lays it out pretty well if you have the time and desire to read it.


I agree, that is probably one of the best laid out sources for macroevolution out there to read. If one can ignore the wild guesses, gross errors in reasoning, false statemetns and manipulation, it actually makes sense. grin


Again, total devils advocate just because I enjoy the discussion;

But what is the defense of the other side, that they have to ignore? Besides faith, what The Bible says and you don't feel like you came from a monkey?



5 pager inbound...over


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Re: Ancient human like jawbone found in Balkans [Re: AUstan23] #2122860
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Originally Posted By: AUstan23

Originally Posted By: jbc
Originally Posted By: straycat
Originally Posted By: Todd1700
Good reading on Macroevolution

The problem with discussing topics like this is that the requested answers and evidence can require deeper reading than most people want to engage in. But the above link lays it out pretty well if you have the time and desire to read it.


I agree, that is probably one of the best laid out sources for macroevolution out there to read. If one can ignore the wild guesses, gross errors in reasoning, false statemetns and manipulation, it actually makes sense. grin


Again, total devils advocate just because I enjoy the discussion;

But what is the defense of the other side, that they have to ignore? Besides faith, what The Bible says and you don't feel like you came from a monkey?



5 pager inbound...over


I hope it is enlightening on both sides

Re: Ancient human like jawbone found in Balkans [Re: Beer Belly] #2122888
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How about this. What an incredible find. Almost perfectly preserved dinosaur, scales and all. Perfect Dinosaur

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Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
How about this. What an incredible find. Almost perfectly preserved dinosaur, scales and all. Perfect Dinosaur


That things gotta push 3,900 or 3,950 years ago

Re: Ancient human like jawbone found in Balkans [Re: Beer Belly] #2122906
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That is probably in the same file that said Hillary would win the presidency by a landslide.


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Re: Ancient human like jawbone found in Balkans [Re: jlbuc10] #2122915
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Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
How about this. What an incredible find. Almost perfectly preserved dinosaur, scales and all. Perfect Dinosaur


If it could fly it would look like one of The Game of Thrones dragons.


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Re: Ancient human like jawbone found in Balkans [Re: Beer Belly] #2122917
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Prolly just an enlarged photo of a petrified horny toad.


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Re: Ancient human like jawbone found in Balkans [Re: Beer Belly] #2122925
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There's a map, easily accessed via Google. It shows the human geneome track and how it spread through the planet. Since DNA is now a trackable thing, it really does solve the spread of humanity on the planet. It also makes perfect sense, if you look at it.

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I'll believe evolution when one of the proponents gets on CNN and states that there are distinct differences between the races(breeds) of humans. Until then, I'm with the creationist camp.

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